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Covid-19: Test, test, test for the virus and look towards South Korean model, says former DPM

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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yes yes yes. 

Better late than never. 

No country really knows where they are at with this without massive testing including people with no symptoms. Also eventually antibody blood tests to identify people that already had it and recovered which many wouldn't even know as they had no or mild symptoms. 

 

My hunch is Thailand is somewhere between the better off countries like South Korea and the covid ravaged countries like Iran and the USA. 

 

But impossible to really know without massive testing. 

 

Ignorance is not bliss. 

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This is the rational tack.  Test & Trace.  Without knowledge of who has been infected and who their physical contacts have been, those trying to lessen the effects of this epidemic are flying blind.  Those who test free of infection may be able to go back to work, while those infected can be quarantined, but you must Test to know. 

 

America’s CDC and FDA have been dinosaurs with their regulatory inertia, too long forbidding university and private labs to test, and the government’s own test was fatally flawed.  Classic fumblers.  They wasted a month.  Thailand, please don’t hesitate now – Test & Trace. 

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What China is doing is interesting in order to begin to restart society. Everyone gets a code green yellow or red and they are tracked everywhere they go with their phone. Like when you go to 7-11 you scan in. Then if later a Covid positive person is found to have been there when you were, everyone there forced into a mandatory two week quarantine. That would work, it's somewhat better than what we're doing now, but will this be done or accepted by the public in Thailand or in western countries? I think it would be accepted by the Thai public (expats feelings don't matter) and wouldn't be surprised if something like that is eventually done here. The only limitation I can see is the organization ability of the Thais relative to the Chinese, but surely China would be willing and happy to help if asked.

 

A consequence of such a system intended or not is that most people would probably tend to limit their activities because the more places you go, the higher the chance you'll be thrown into quarantine. 

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JUST MATHEMATICS: on a population of around 70 million people it will last almost 10 years before everybody is tested once.

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   Give this guy the job of Health Minister and can the yahoo currently holding the job.  

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1 minute ago, vangrop said:

JUST MATHEMATICS: on a population of around 70 million people it will last almost 10 years before everybody is tested once.

You can do mass random testing and identify hot spots and cold spots. That's a start. The blood antibody testing that will be available soon is actually quick and easy to cover large populations but that's about showing previous infections. 

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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What China is doing is interesting in order to begin to restart society. Everyone gets a code green yellow or red and they are tracked everywhere they go with their phone. Like when you go to 7-11 you scan in. Then if later a Covid positive person is found to have been there when you were, everyone there forced into a mandatory two week quarantine. That would work, it's somewhat better than what we're doing now, but will this be done or accepted by the public in Thailand or in western countries? <snip> 

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For a Westerner used to constitutional limitations on government power that protect individual liberty, what China is capable of doing here just scares the hell out of me.  I don’t see any limits to their police power, even if the stated intention is the public good.  They don’t have a tradition there of balancing personal freedoms with legitimate government powers.  They can get away with it. 

 

Further, I fear that this worldwide pandemic crisis will enormously inflate government power everywhere, and once the threat has retreated the Leviathan of authoritarianism will never scale back to respecting many of the freedoms we all once knew.  The rational balance will be lost.  History shows that once government power is increased during any kind of crisis, it is a ratchet effect that almost never rolls back, power inching up through time with liberties continually lost.  The almighty nanny State will take care of us, and we will all be happy, controlled, and constantly surveilled children. 

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Well hE*L, it's only 3000 baht to stand in lines to let the country know how bad it's problem is. 

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10 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Was hoping for photos of the 'South Korean Model'.

Sadly disappointed ....... again!

I've got one if you need to 'rent' her.

 

A Hyundai.

 

Rooster

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3 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

Looks like they're going with the cheaper (and more toxic) chloroquine as opposed to the hydroxychloroquine being used in most trials. 

Cheap is the operative word around here: https://www.thaienquirer.com/10901/thailand-says-focused-testing-more-important-than-mass-testing-mass-testing-very-expensive/

 

As in life is cheap.

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The RTPCR test can't identify covid-19. It only detects corona viruses which could be any from that family. Most people have corona viruses in their system most of the time. It is not a Gold Standard Test and leads to False Positives if used to look for Covid-19 specifically. 

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