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As each day goes by it just gets more silly, and more dangerous.

I stopped my wife going to Tops today, just because her health is more important than me complaining about burgers, sausages and fish everyday.

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And that's excluding asymptomatic but tested positive in two reference labs and also excluding any positive tests in private hospitals that have not been verified by those labs, which belong to MoPH a

I think it was unrealistic to expect a continual downward spiral. Every country, every day has big ups and down, though the trend over the last few days has been encouraging. We have moaned about insu

There was obviously going to be a rise today (and most likely followed by a smaller rise tomorrow) to justify the 24 hour curfew over Songkran.   These figures are whatever the Government wa

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35 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

If any are wondering why numbers of tests are so low should read this revealing article.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/10901/thailand-says-focused-testing-more-important-than-mass-testing-mass-testing-very-expensive/

Thanks, I was wondering when they'd investigate. The only publication around here that has the balls to dig stuff up.

 

It's an excuse though, the PCR test at Bamrasnaradura  is 2500 baht for MERS-CoV, which should be similar price to SARS-CoV-2: http://bamras.ddc.moph.go.th/userfiles/Handbook of Specimen collection .pdf . That's very likely the MoPH NIH lab as they are located a stone's throw from each other.

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1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

Thanks, I was wondering when they'd investigate. The only publication around here that has the balls to dig stuff up.

 

It's an excuse though, the PCR test at Bamrasnaradura  is 2500 baht for MERS-CoV, which should be similar price to SARS-CoV-2: http://bamras.ddc.moph.go.th/userfiles/Handbook of Specimen collection .pdf . That's very likely the MoPH NIH lab as they are located a stone's throw from each other.

It does seem like an excuse as the amount of money being thrown around could easily have gone towards testing which begs the question what the bloody hell can be the real reason for not testing?It just makes my tiny mind boggle.

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“We’re not satisfied with this number. We need to pump those numbers up, both the private and public sectors,” Taweesin Visanuyothin, spokesman of the Center for the COVID-19 Situation Administration said. “We want to test hundreds of thousands of people. With more tests, we might find more infected, but we’re not afraid of that.”

 

The tests number that was published, 70k+ was the amount of tests not the amount of people tested, I'm not sure how many people would need two tests or if thats a requirement?

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2020/04/07/thailands-virus-test-number-trails-behind-s-korea-but-surpasses-japan/

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7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The tests number that was published, 70k+ was the amount of tests not the amount of people tested, I'm not sure how many people would need two tests or if thats a requirement?

Here's how it goes: https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/guidelines/g_cpc.pdf

 

To be confirmed you do need two tests and they have to be at the reference labs of MoPH and Army, same for asymptomatic cases (that do not coutn as confirmed even wit those two tests positive):

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/guidelines/G_en_21022020.pdf

 

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2. Probable case is defined as a PUI who has tested positive for genetic materials of SARS-CoV-2 by PCR from one (1) reference laboratory, or by genetic sequencing, or by culture.

3. Confirmed case is defined as a PUI who has tested positive for genetic materials of SARS-CoV-2 by PCR from two (2) reference laboratories, or by genetic sequencing, or by culture.

4. Asymptomatic case is defined as a person who has tested positive for genetic materials of SARS-CoV2 by PCR from two (2) reference laboratories, or by genetic sequencing, or by culture, but has shown no signs and symptoms

 

Any tests in private hospitals would still require tests at reference labs, if they are included in the stats at all. And of course they might redo tests. At least all the confirmed have had a minimum of two tests. There is no data available about probable or asymptomatic case count. Or indeed about the amount of tests at MoPH after they deleted the number of pending tests from their reports.

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6 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Here's how it goes: https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/guidelines/g_cpc.pdf

 

To be confirmed you do need two tests and they have to be at the reference labs of MoPH and Army, same for asymptomatic cases (that do not coutn as confirmed even wit those two tests positive):

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/guidelines/G_en_21022020.pdf

 

 

Any tests in private hospitals would still require tests at reference labs, if they are included in the stats at all. And of course they might redo tests. At least all the confirmed have had a minimum of two tests. There is no data available about probable or asymptomatic case count. Or indeed about the amount of tests at MoPH after they deleted the number of pending tests from their reports.

Yes thats what I thought. If thats the case then the actual number of people tested would only be half of that 70k+ figure given. Then there is the possibility that people need further tests if they are still showing symptoms as a result of a false negative test. Result being that yes the number of people being tested is far from sufficient.

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I was bored, so I thought I'd see how the death rate of COVID-19 in hot countries compares to COVID-19 in colder countries.

 

If you don't want to read to the end, approximately 2.6% of all COVID-19 deaths happened in hot countries.

 

All numbers taken from today:

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

08/04/20 COVID-19 deaths per hot country (temps averaging over 20 degrees C between Jan-Mar)

Brazil        686
Indonesia    221
Philippines    177
India        160
Mexico        125
Peru        107
Dominican Rep    98
Malaysia    63
Argentina    60
Pakistan    57
Panama        55
Australia    49
Thailand    27
Honduras    22

Other countries (fewer than 20 deaths) 250 approx

 

total hot deaths    2157    2.6%

total other deaths    81,488    97.4%

total all deaths    83,645

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, nkg said:

If you don't want to read to the end, approximately 2.6% of all COVID-19 deaths happened in hot countries.

Just for fun, why don't you do the number of tests done in the hot countries vs the cold countries next? And please do tell me once you get reliable data from the 3rd world countries that tend to be the majority in the tropics.

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3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Just for fun, why don't you do the number of tests done in the hot countries vs the cold countries next? And please do tell me once you get reliable data from the 3rd world countries that tend to be the majority in the tropics.

 

I have no point to prove, I just find the numbers interesting 🙂

 

Looking at Australia, who have conducted a large number of tests and have excellent healthcare:

 

310,000 tests

6,013 total cases

49 deaths

 

That's 2 deaths per million population, lower than any European country. I'd regard their data as reliable.

 

 

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Exactly 3 weeks ago - Italy had 569 cases and 8 deaths.

Today 139,000 cases and 17.669 deaths.  And there's a lot more that are going to die yet from that 139,000 infections.

This is what happens when you don't flatten the curve.

You older expats really need to stay inside for now if you can.  Be careful.  

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2 hours ago, nkg said:

I was bored, so I thought I'd see how the death rate of COVID-19 in hot countries compares to COVID-19 in colder countries.

 

If you don't want to read to the end, approximately 2.6% of all COVID-19 deaths happened in hot countries.

 

All numbers taken from today:

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

08/04/20 COVID-19 deaths per hot country (temps averaging over 20 degrees C between Jan-Mar)

Brazil        686
Indonesia    221
Philippines    177
India        160
Mexico        125
Peru        107
Dominican Rep    98
Malaysia    63
Argentina    60
Pakistan    57
Panama        55
Australia    49
Thailand    27
Honduras    22

Other countries (fewer than 20 deaths) 250 approx

 

total hot deaths    2157    2.6%

total other deaths    81,488    97.4%

total all deaths    83,645

 

 

 

 

Interesting numbers.  

Just so you are aware, Peru isn't hot.  

I can confirm to you too that scientists remain unconvinced so far that heat has anything to do with transmission rates.  That's so far.  

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1 hour ago, Blumpie said:

Interesting numbers.  

Just so you are aware, Peru isn't hot.  

I can confirm to you too that scientists remain unconvinced so far that heat has anything to do with transmission rates.  That's so far.  

 

Yes, Peru was a marginal one - I included it because it showed average temperatures of over 20C for Jan, Feb and Mar. If I had increased the cutoff to 25C or higher, there would be even fewer "hot country deaths".

 

I don't have any theory as to why temperature (and/or humidity) would affect death rates so much, but the numbers are startling.

 

I hope that heat/humidity does have some effect on COVID - it could help to put a brake on the virus heading into the summer months. We certainly shouldn't be relying on this though.

 

 

 

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I look at the numbers and wonder too.  

The way the news is going around and armchair medical personnel, it's incredible.  

Yes, Peru is never hot.  Other than the Latinos there, it's a cold bleak country.  

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29 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

 

I look at the numbers and wonder too.  

The way the news is going around and armchair medical personnel, it's incredible.  

Yes, Peru is never hot.  Other than the Latinos there, it's a cold bleak country.  

 

I'm not sure if you are sceptical about the numbers or just interested 🙂

 

They can all be found at:

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

This website reports the daily statistics reported by each country, and the numbers seem to match up with wikipedia and other sources. Lots of interesting data. Sorting the data by "Deaths/1M population" shows which countries have been the hardest hit.

 

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