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1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

Nah, I am both tall, intelligent and very rich but that´s beside the point. So, you are saying that we have free press. Ok, but how much of it can you really believe? What is fake and what is lies? Is that what you call free press?

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4 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

you don't seem to understand.   i'm in china right now.  i've been living in china for most of the past 15 years (along with three in thailand with retirement extension).

 

many of the other posters on this thread think i'm a "ccp shill" because i question the western narrative.

 

if i've offended both you and them, i must be doing something right!

You have not offended anyone according to me. A discussion can not offend people.

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1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

Nah, I am both tall, intelligent and very rich but that´s beside the point. So, you are saying that we have free press. Ok, but how much of it can you really believe? What is fake and what is lies? Is that what you call free press?

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57 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Good luck on your way back to the stone age.

It was nice in the 1990's when China was still <deleted> up to the sky planting rice. 

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5 hours ago, NanLaew said:

The issue isn't with the Chinese people, it's with the Communist Party of China.

 

 

Certainly does help back up every thought and feeling I have had in great detail. They certainly recovered quick enough and falsely are rushing to everyone's aid like a Red colored white night in shining (shunning) armor. Not the people but their horrendous overlords.

 

Thanks for posting. 

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21 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Certainly does help back up every thought and feeling I have had in great detail. They certainly recovered quick enough and falsely are rushing to everyone's aid like a Red colored white night in shining (shunning) armor. Not the people but their horrendous overlords.

 

Thanks for posting. 

okay, it backs up your thoughts and feelings

 

but is that one-hour docudrama legitimate?  where did it come from?  who is "epoch times?"  are they unbiased, are they "fair and balanced?"  or do they have an agenda?  did they cherry-pick data points?  did they take quotes out of context?  are they ignoring evidence that goes against their narrative?  could they be repeating already debunked misinformation?

 

 

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8 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

who is "epoch times?" 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/about-us

 

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The Epoch Times was founded in the United States in the year 2000 in response to communist repression and censorship in China. Our founders, Chinese-Americans who themselves had fled communism, sought to create an independent media to bring the world uncensored and truthful information.

 

Here's an acid test: open all borders and see which way people would migrate. I'm fairly sure people wouldn't be flocking into commie countries.

 

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2 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said:

 we get to choose one lot of turds or a different lot of turds ....but I get your point

and that certainly is true 

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9 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/about-us

 

 

Here's an acid test: open all borders and see which way people would migrate. I'm fairly sure people wouldn't be flocking into commie countries.

 

 

that link doesn't answer the questions we should be asking about the linked video.  the response is deflection.

 

your link is the equivalent to linking to the communist party website "about us" page to prove how benevolent the commies truly are.

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9 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

 

that link doesn't answer the questions we should be asking about the linked video.  the response is deflection.

 

your link is the equivalent to linking to the communist party website "about us" page to prove how benevolent the commies truly are.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/technology/epoch-times-youtube.html

 

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/story/2019-10-13/readers-should-know-the-truth-behind-the-epoch-times-utak

 

There's a couple reviews of Epoch Times..

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Posted (edited)

Good discussion... I read everyone's post which I definitely do not do very often here. Some really good points made from most posters on this thread. I saw the Falun Gong video last night and thought it was reasonably well presented bearing in mind it came from the US media. Some good evidence surrounding the so called 'Patient 0' not coming from the 'wet market' and also regarding the state-of-the-art Corona Virus research facility in Wuhan no less. However, The Epoch Times is the number 1 fan of Donald Trump both financially and otherwise. The US/UK lawsuits regarding compensation demands from the Chinese government are an interesting development though?

Accident or not the CCP were very clearly withholding vital information, and still are, that could save peoples lives whether in China, Thailand or the rest of the world. Seems undeniable! Tell us where this virus orginated please... NOW!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

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34 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Here's an acid test: open all borders and see which way people would migrate. I'm fairly sure people wouldn't be flocking into commie countries.

IMHO you have every right for your confidence based on what happened in Europe during the height of the Cold War, when a fair few Eastern Europeans displayed considerable courage in fleeing to the West and escaping their commie masters at great personal risk to themselves - and over what were, in the main, closed and sealed borders.

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34 minutes ago, Sambotte said:

Ha ha... You are being cynical here no ? 😏

France, in maybe his last stand of honor, denounced this invasion project, in a famous tribune.

USA hated France for that. 

Every country knew there was no WMD, including USA (i mean the smart people, not the sheeps brainwashed by medias, of course, they believe anything).

 

But a lot of oil. And a strategic opportunity.

 

I am not juging actually. Business as usual. War is business, anyway you really look at it. It's THE main business actually. Budgets, weapons sales, etc.

 

And wait, where did i read USA spend like all the time of it's history at war...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States#20th-century_wars

war is good for population control, nice new uniforms, cool updated weapons to play with,  fast promotion and lots of medals; whats not to like?  

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