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Removing entry restrictions for foreigners - when?

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I can't see them dropping the need for medical certificates (in addition to quarantine on arrival), or some kind of checks before boarding, for a very long time. It's problematic to turn people away at the border, never mind expose crew and border staff to infection, which means testing has to happen at the country of origin.

 

I'm waiting to enter Vietnam, I have a feeling June is only feasible with medical certificate and quarantine on arrival (not self isolation, as that's too unreliable). Nobody can afford to open the gates for business as usual, and require the whole country to lockdown for a month again due to a spike in infections. No amount of tourist dollars are worth that. I'd be thinking late or next year before relaxed restrictions, with possible early exceptions from designated safe countries. 

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Same as me but before they let you in you have to get there first we may all need a piece of string and everyone to run out of money for starters🤔

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30 minutes ago, gearbox said:

How realistic is this? I see across the world the lockdowns and quarantines are getting extended pretty much everywhere. My O-A reentry permit expires early September, which doesn't look that far now.

I cannot remember the exact details. However, the recent decree by the government authorizing immunity for visa holders, also had specific language regarding re-entry permits. If I remember correctly, the re-entry permit will continue to be valid for up to 12 months after it's expiration. The decree is a bit too difficult for my Thai reading ability, so I will try to remember to ask my employee to reread it again tomorrow and post the actual details.

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Phuket has just announced a 24 hour lockdown, with house to house temperature checks, those with high temperatures being forcibly isolated....numbers are still increasing worldwide with many airlines canceling flights till October...my guess would be nearer year end at earliest...however..no one really knows.

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You might barely make it by September, but only with significant conditions. Airlines aren't even likely to be running by then.

 

Better plan on this thing going on for a year. The UK has already said as much. They can not normalize until either 90+% of the population has been infected and become immune, they develop a vaccine, or they develop the technology to test and isolate individuals within 24 hours of infection. Any other conditions and the models show you just get another flareup. They might relax lockdown restrictions a little if the numbers drop, but that will simply increase the R value so infections hold steady. They can't allow new infections to enter.

 

6 months of this at a bare minimum. September is a big maybe at best.

 

Even China, who is now declaring business as usual, does not want their citizens returning from overseas. The Chinese in the USA who have lost their jobs and are looking at their H1B's expiring are panicking. They can't get another job in 60 days (as required by their visa) due to the crippled economy, and they can't return home because China doesn't want them bringing the infection back.

 

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10 minutes ago, gearbox said:

The "free from covid19" medical certificate is very hard to obtain, short of impossible in many countries. This may change if new inexpensive test kits are developed, but who knows what's the time frame for this.

 

I see the number of foreigners living permanently in Thailand droping lower and lower, as once you get out, it is now very difficult go to back. And sooner or later many people would need to get out for variety of reasons.

Yes it's hard to see a satisfactory outcome being found. Vietnam has only reported 300 cases but the whole country is locked down. After they fix it, they can't afford to let it get out of hand again. Killing tourism seems the lesser of two evils.

 

 

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This had been posted Tuesday, but no mention on nationalities. Disregard the picture, that was a humor image posted in thread. As always, this may be have been already cancelled, corrected, or does not apply to 'tourists' (read: foreign expats). It also mentions a mandatory 2-week isolation requirement.  

 

Only 200 people to be allowed to enter Thailand each day
By webfact, Tuesday at 02:29 PM in Thailand News

 

 

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40 minutes ago, timendres said:

I cannot remember the exact details. However, the recent decree by the government authorizing immunity for visa holders, also had specific language regarding re-entry permits. If I remember correctly, the re-entry permit will continue to be valid for up to 12 months after it's expiration. The decree is a bit too difficult for my Thai reading ability, so I will try to remember to ask my employee to reread it again tomorrow and post the actual details.

how would that work?

 

re-entry permit usually expires along with the visa/extension, right?  so if we're outside thailand and both our extension of stay and re-entry permit expire, we'll be given up to 12 months after expiration of both to return?  and hopefully no heartache at immigration to do a renewal within one year of expiration?  no need to start over as long as we can provide the standard documents?

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Not realistic at all, as my daughter school messaged yesterday that they won't open before the first of July.

 

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I say we bust in &(*() ' em!!!! I will lead an expedition across the Makong!!! 🙂

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I'm in the same boat, on the 25th of March my wife (who is a thai citizen) and I flew back to Thailand from South Africa after visiting our family before leaving we make contact with the Thai embassy in Pretoria and after getting all the necessary documents and tests we get on the plane, when arriving in Thailand they informed us that she may enter but I must go back to South Africa because no foreigners may enter.

After a flying already for 16 hours I must sit and wait another 13 hours for a flight back to South Africa and just land in time some hours to spare before lockdown. So at this moment I have a longstay visa till December but when will I be reunited with my wife and daughter. My life my everything is there in Thailand. So please keep me up to date 

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