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NO AUTOMATIC EXTENSION for people with covid extension

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27 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Your present status is 'under consideration' which is not an approved permission to stay.

Even though you were eligible for the automatic extension (your original permission to stay being after March 29) you applied for the emergency extension (which was wise to do so in the absence of info) and so you according to your present status you must report back on April 23. 

You would then receive your permission to stay stamp, and would be at least legit till April 30 (which by then will probably have been prolonged).

I would advise you not to take any chances, having to explain to an immigration officer why you did not report back.  

Agreed. If your passport says "applicant must contact again in person on April 23", then you should just do that, unless they clarifies in the coming days that the amnesty also applies to people with "under consideration" stamps. 

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8 minutes ago, uberfarang said:

I showed that same diagram (the thai version) to the officer and she said it specifies "visa that expired before March 26" and that wasn't for me.

Tbh I do not know if the reason for my visa not to qualify was because I already had an extension before March 26 or had that dreaded "under consideration" stamp. She seemed <deleted> that I asked (maybe because the hundred people before me did the same) so I didn't insist. Considering how things are changing from day to day and office to office, what her arguments were on Friday might not hold on Monday. I am looking forward to reading feedbacks from other members who will go there next week.

The text says 'since March 26' !

Did this immigration officer really reads and explains it as BEFORE March 26?

That wouldn't make any sense it all, because it would then only apply to those on over-stay.

 

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3 hours ago, audaciousnomad said:

I completely agree with you.  The positive spin on it is that when they do come in to convert their "under consideration" to a "permitted to stay", there will not be a horrendous queue to contend with. Should be in and out within an hour. And once they have that "permitted to stay" stamp with a date that is now after 26-March....they are now within the "amnesty group".

That's actually what I asked the officer, if I was now covered by the "after March 26 amnesty", she said no and that if want to stay in Thailand after April 29, I have to come again and apply *with another letter from my embassy*. So even if the "under consideration" is converted to a "permitted to stay", it does not "upgrade" you to the automatically exempt group. The March 26 seems to be a hardcoded date related to your original visa expiry date, not extensions of permit of stay.

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7 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

The text says 'since March 26' !

Did this immigration officer really reads and explains it as BEFORE March 26?

That wouldn't make any sense it all, because it would then only apply to those on over-stay.

 

Sorry there was a typo, I meant "visa that expire AFTER March 26".

So not only overstayers, it also applies to anyone whose visa expires in April. For instance you arrived in Thailand in March 15 with a 30 VOA, then you don't have to extend on April 15, it would be automatically extended until April 30.

Not even sure if the backdated March 26 was intended to give an amnesty to overstayers.

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5 minutes ago, uberfarang said:

That's actually what I asked the officer, if I was now covered by the "after March 26 amnesty", she said no and that if want to stay in Thailand after April 29, I have to come again and apply *with another letter from my embassy*. So even if the "under consideration" is converted to a "permitted to stay", it does not "upgrade" you to the automatically exempt group. The March 26 seems to be a hardcoded date related to your original visa expiry date, not extensions of permit of stay.

God help us if you have to deal with dimwit officers like that to stay legit in the country!

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1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Don't doubt what your stating. I'm thinking the io is wrong. You obtained a 30 day permission of stay which will expire in April. 

The amnesty will be extended most likely on monthly basis and you (imo) won't be obtaining future covid extensions.

I hope you're right and she (and her colleagues) will be properly briefed next week. At least I don't have to go there for 18 more days.
I also hope the PM will announce an extension before that one expires and not on May 7th...

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Just now, uberfarang said:

I hope you're right and she (and her colleagues) will be properly briefed next week. At least I don't have to go there for 18 more days.
I also hope the PM will announce an extension before that one expires and not on May 7th...

For sure your safe. 

Common sense would suggest that announcement of extending the emergency would occur perhaps 7 days prior to end of April and again week prior to end of May if lasts that long. 

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47 minutes ago, uberfarang said:

That's actually what I asked the officer, if I was now covered by the "after March 26 amnesty", she said no and that if want to stay in Thailand after April 29, I have to come again and apply *with another letter from my embassy*. So even if the "under consideration" is converted to a "permitted to stay", it does not "upgrade" you to the automatically exempt group. The March 26 seems to be a hardcoded date related to your original visa expiry date, not extensions of permit of stay.

Your original expiry date? You mean the first one without a normal extension? And then continuous emergency extensions necessary without being automatically exempt and constantly needing new embassy letters even though many embassies are stopping giving them due to the amnesty? Will the US embassy continue to give them?

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3 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:

Your original expiry date? You mean the first one without a normal extension? And then continuous emergency extensions necessary without being automatically exempt and constantly needing new embassy letters even though many embassies are stopping giving them due to the amnesty? Will the US embassy continue to give them?

Case 1. Your permission of stay expired after March 26. Do nothing.

Case 2. You obtained a "covid extension" meaning second 30 day extension and were given stamp "under consideration". Then return back to imm on required date as indicated in pp to obtain your permission of stay stamp. Even if very late April.

Case 3. You obtained your first extension (normal extension) and it's expiring after march 26. Do nothing.

After that do nothing. 

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USA Embassy no longer issuing Covid19 extension letters.

Which is a mistake because some of us still need the letter in special circumstances.

 

My fine embassy told me that letters will no longer be sent and to consult a lawyer...

 

lovely!

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18 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Case 1. Your permission of stay expired after March 26. Do nothing.

Case 2. You obtained a "covid extension" meaning second 30 day extension and were given stamp "under consideration". Then return back to imm on required date as indicated in pp to obtain your permission of stay stamp. Even if very late April.

Case 3. You obtained your first extension (normal extension) and it's expiring after march 26. Do nothing.

After that do nothing. 

My first normal extension expired on March 29, but I went on March 26 to get emergency covid extension to avoid overstay so case 2 and 3, but I assume case 2 preempts case 3.

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13 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:

My first normal extension expired on March 29, but I went on March 26 to get emergency covid extension to avoid overstay so case 2 and 3, but I assume case 2 preempts case 3.

Ha. Yes your one of the "overlap guys".

Fact is you obtained normal 30 day permission of stay. Think for sure your current permission of stay ends ~April 26.

Do nothing. 

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I'm on a regular SETV and did my "regular"/"legit" extension in the middle of march, to be expired in the middle of april. I got "amnesty" untill april 30th, right? 

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