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US celebrates 200 years of friendship with Thailand in Songkran message

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Very thankful for US Embassy in Bangkok.  They approved my wife’s B-2 Visa, and help us in many other ways.  And let’s face it: no expat should live in a foreign country without home country embassy/consulate to back them up and keep them informed.

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I have not be able to verify this from multiple sources, but I have been told Thailand offered the US foreign aid in the late 1860's after the the US civil war. They offered to give the US elephants as the south was rebuilding. The US did not accept the aid.

Has anyone else heard of this?

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4 hours ago, loong said:

Amazing that the friendship held strong when Thailand declared war on the United States!

Yes. "Our countries have enjoyed a profound friendship for over 200 years."

 

Apart from the bit where Thailand declared war on the USA because Japan sent a platoon of infantry to stand on the Thai/Cambodian border and look all menacing and stuff. Thailand felt a bit threatened so... voila!

 

Fair weather friends. Who needs them? Some things don't change. When a country and a population are disliked and distrusted, there's usually a reason or two. Nothing happens by chance.

 

Still, could have been worse. The animal of Thailand could have been the hippopotamus. Not a nice image...

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3 hours ago, Hippos said:

 

 

deleted, editor is broken. Again.

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3 hours ago, Hippos said:

How many POW suffered and died here....

Lots, spend an hour or so at the RBL cemetary in Kanchaburi. Instructive.

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3 hours ago, loong said:

Amazing that the friendship held strong when Thailand declared war on the United States!

A declaration made under-duress, at a point when the Allies said they could not assist Thailand against Japan's aggression (were busy elsewhere), and which was not accepted by the USA.  Active Thai resistance to Japan also comes into that discussion.

 

More recently, there was the US military-support, which helped prevent a communist takeover in the 1970s, in combination with the "hearts and minds" victory by a Great king (a key-element absent in Vietnam). 

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3 hours ago, loong said:

Amazing that the friendship held strong when Thailand declared war on the United States!

B29s and Thai Ki43s did get pretty up close and personal 😮 

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3 hours ago, loong said:

Amazing that the friendship held strong when Thailand declared war on the United States!

Hey, Thailand also declared war against France without needing pressure from Japan!  Even won that war!  

-You have to admire their initiative in taking advantage of the situation!

 

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4 hours ago, loong said:

Amazing that the friendship held strong when Thailand declared war on the United States!

Technicality with that declaration being refused to be delivered in Washington, DC. Thus the US will take a different approach after the war in not treating the Kingdom of Thailand as an enemy combatant (war declaration delivered to our British Cousins will be reflected in how they wanted Thailand treated post-WW II).

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58 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

A declaration made under-duress, at a point when the Allies said they could not assist Thailand against Japan's aggression (were busy elsewhere), and which was not accepted by the USA.  Active Thai resistance to Japan also comes into that discussion.

 

More recently, there was the US military-support, which helped prevent a communist takeover in the 1970s, in combination with the "hearts and minds" victory by a Great king (a key-element absent in Vietnam). 

Ah yes, that old Chestnut. It was however delivered in London and the Thais were recognised as Axis forces and as the enemy. 

 

I find this "they weren't really the enemy" nonsense peddled by some Americans as very distasteful, not to mention disrespectful to the 8000 or more Thais that died building the Death Railway and the thousands more that died fighting as part of the Seri Thai free Thai movement.

 

Don't forget the US military, financial and political backing of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge after the Cambodian Genocide either.

 

Hollywood history tends only to cherry pick the good parts of Uncle Sam's colonialism. 

 

 

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20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“Our countries have enjoyed a profound friendship for over 200 years.

 

Very optimistic the lady;
the first diplomatic exchanges between the two countries date from 1833, so much less than 200 years ago.

 

and as a member rightly points out a little higher, during the 2nd world war, Thailand was Japan's ally therefore in the axis of evil.

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