P100 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Matzzon said: You should feel ashamed! no you shouldn't. We don't know it's a PR from Phukets leaders or not.. Why is there a photo of the opened food box. Cooking for the photo? Anyway. It would be nice if Thais learn that they have profited for so long from farangs and it is a good thing now to give back a little and care about farangs... That is just human, not heroic in any ways. Still I would like more such stories, not to impress me, but to show Thais that they have guests and need to take care about their guests. A step in the right way. Let's hope more of them drop the slingshots and follow this guy... Edited April 11, 2020 by P100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Iron Tongue Posted April 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2020 Two weeks later, that guy came down with covid-19! It's a cautionary tale to stay away from all farang! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesekraft Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 crisis will bring out the best and worst in people. A cheap, simple act, but it went a long way towards helping others, and I am sure they will never forget the gesture, regardless of how small it may seem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Why not make it official? To all backpackers and beggars in Thailand: "FREE food and drink in Phuket" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 an inherent buddhist instinct manifested by this person's act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, bander said: Why not make it official? To all backpackers and beggars in Thailand: "FREE food and drink in Phuket" funding is possibly an issue with the thai economy being impacted from poor troust figures, bad auto industry and even impacted crops. help is possible in a limited but not in a blanket way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 19 hours ago, colinneil said: Now heres a thought, what about all members on here now they are saving money not buying beer, dipping their pockets, and giving some poor Thai people a bit of food, you know just like the Thai man did for farangs. I did that, milled about 12-14 kilos of rice, wife handed out to a few poor people. Come on you lot, get up of your backsides and do your bit, help poor folk. i give the peanut seller 20 baht (cash) every time i see her.I dont like peanuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
featography Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 We see his name, he is in Phuket, but if we knew his exact location, it would be very good if the expats living there were to support his business in appreciation for his good heart. If we did and it hit the media it would be a great lesson for all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richards Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Chazar said: i give the peanut seller 20 baht (cash) every time i see her.I dont like peanuts of course you did 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 21 hours ago, ChipButty said: Where is she and her friends living? Thai's will always give you food And a shot of whiskey, even when you don't want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 22 hours ago, Genmai said: How about a certain FB page with 600,000 followers calling for Phuket locals to gather up slingshots and shoot rocks at whitey's head? Can we criticize that? Or how about the fact that that page isn't on Thai news but this feelgood "All-Thais-Are-Angels" story is? A genuine good-hearted gesture? Sure, if it's real. But you can't deny this stinks of a damage control PR campaign. C'mon, think of the bigger picture here. A 600,000 strong FB Phuket-based page of racists getting some public attention, and then suddenly- boom - like clockwork, a feel-good article about the kindness of Phuket people? No. It's no different to stories of honest taxi drivers turning in bags of diamonds and cash that get published like clockwork after another story of condemnation. Edit: I'll also add that the ThaiVisa article about that FB page in question is no longer available. Make of that what you will! the two in the photo were not angry far from it , it was a set up and a write up by a <deleted> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Genmai said: How about a certain FB page with 600,000 followers calling for Phuket locals to gather up slingshots and shoot rocks at whitey's head? Can we criticize that? Or how about the fact that that page isn't on Thai news but this feelgood "All-Thais-Are-Angels" story is? A genuine good-hearted gesture? Sure, if it's real. But you can't deny this stinks of a damage control PR campaign. C'mon, think of the bigger picture here. A 600,000 strong FB Phuket-based page of racists getting some public attention, and then suddenly- boom - like clockwork, a feel-good article about the kindness of Phuket people? No. It's no different to stories of honest taxi drivers turning in bags of diamonds and cash that get published like clockwork after another story of condemnation. Edit: I'll also add that the ThaiVisa article about that FB page in question is no longer available. Make of that what you will! Posts like this - by people who seem to hate Thailand and find the people revolting - are in my opinion ruining this forum. It is a forum about Thailand. Why such people post here is beyond me. Why would anyone linger on a forum like this if they genuinely dislike Thailand? It's sad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 20 hours ago, scotsdude said: bash bash bash Ah, a bit of mindless heckling, very helpful. Why don't you instead try and construct an argument against what he has said, but be careful, because he is factually correct about the Phuket-based farang bashing Facebook page. And although it might be considered cynical to think this man’s kind gesture is contrived, the timing and publicity, reek of a damage limitation stunt. There are plenty of poverty stricken Thais that are far more needy than these recipients. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 16 hours ago, GAZZPA said: I haven't heard of any attacks in Thailand. I have heard of 1 incident in the press in the UK (which any sensible person was appauled by) and there will always be someone who is a total idiot. But if you are suggesting that racism is worse in the the US, UK and Europe then Thailand then you are wrong. Thailand has very obvious problems in respect to it's attitude towards "farang" which starts with the government and runs through society. I myself was attacked in Thailand and I know of at least 2 other people who had nasty experiences. We left because we didnt want our son to grow up in that sort of culture. I think you should stop living in denial when it is so obvious. Thailand has a lot of growing up to do. Just out of curiousity, you obviously do not live in Thailand, dont like Thailand, dont seem to like the people or culture. So why post here at all? To spread your views into others? I have never been attacked, experience no racism, and live a good life here. I read this forum as often I get viewpoints from others who share a love or like, of Thailand. But I often wonder at those who seem to be here to spread their dislike of Thailand, who constantly talk about all that is bad about both Thailand and the Thai people. I can understand that people can dislike Thailand, but wanting to spread this dislike is strange to me. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: Posts like this - by people who seem to hate Thailand and find the people revolting - are in my opinion ruining this forum. It is a forum about Thailand. Why such people post here is beyond me. Why would anyone linger on a forum like this if they genuinely dislike Thailand? It's sad. What a nasty inflammatory comment. I have read what he wrote and nowhere does he say that he hates Thailand and finds the people revolting. He does not say that he genuinely dislikes Thailand, but that hasn't stopped you from replying to what you obviously wished he had said rather than what he did ……. it is people like you that are ruining this forum, by trying to put words in other people's mouths just so you can rant at them. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Is this the new honest cabbie story? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genmai Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: But I often wonder at those who seem to be here to spread their dislike of Thailand, who constantly talk about all that is bad about both Thailand and the Thai people. 15 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: Posts like this - by people who seem to hate Thailand and find the people revolting - are in my opinion ruining this forum. Anybody else read this in Prayuth's voice? - "if you criticize anything that means you hate Thailand". Nice try. Note I haven't said a single thing here suggesting I "hate" the country. All I'm doing is asking questions about this story's authenticity in the context of a huge online group of people who CLEARLY hate farangs. But I'm the "problem". Nice. 12 hours ago, Marcus Atwood said: Dude, you are full of hatred for Thailand and are completely wrong about the Spotlight Thailand page. Had you bothered to ever learn Thai, you would have perhaps learned a thing or two about Thais and Thai “sarcasm”. The comments about threatening to kill foreigners is total BS by the way. You’re either making that up or taking things completely out of context to fit your warped world view that is the hatred of Thailand. The Spotlight Thailand comments are Thais mostly just joking around about farangs. 12 hours ago, Marcus Atwood said: Please stop spreading upsetting misinformation about Thailand. Comments such as yours do great damage to Thai-farang relations. Sadly, many will believe what you have posted to be accurate information. It is not. Bro, if you're having the time of your life in Thailand and everybody loves you then I'm genuinely happy for you. I don't have a problem with happy people going about their happy lives. What I DO have a problem with is people who think their **** don't stink. Seems some people either have a terribly short memory, or are deliberately glossing over the facts. I'll let the comments of many Thais from Spotlight speak for themselves: And then there is the video made by the admin of the page in English which has since been taken down (I think there's a copy on YouTube someone uploaded but can't find it) where he clearly says "All foreigners - young, old, man, woman, child" "You are s***t" "I hate you" "Go home and die" But apparently this is all fine because....... it's a giant joke! Hahaaaaaaa. I guess he took down the video of his racist ranting because it was too funny? And he has never made a public apology to foreigners and clarify his position because he's too much of a funny guy? Can I make a FB page calling on all farangs to get slingshots and shoot Thais that are out and about? And make videos about how all Thais are "insert-derogatory-slur-here"? Then when I get called out for it just claim "guys guys guys.... we were just jokiiiiiiiiing"? The guy got the FB ban-hammer and was exposed for the hate-driven farang basher that he is, then removed all evidence and all English comments pointing to his garbage, never issued an apology/statement and is now growing a second FB page. But somehow I'm the problem for pointing out that a feel-good-praise-the-Thais Phuket story at this exact time is a little hard to believe? 12 hours ago, Marcus Atwood said: This is precisely what the locals were hoping to avoid. This is not good publicity for Phuket. Phuket is the gem of Thailand See, I completely agree with you here. Phuket is a pretty awesome place (built largely on visitors' money). The difference is that I also believe THIS is the motivation behind the article. Damage control. I'm not here to rain on your parade. If you're living the life then all the more power to you. But if you're going to claim people like myself are the problem, then I'll say you need to ask yourself one question - If a gang of angry locals with slingshots come round your house today, are your amazing friendly Thai neighbors who've only ever treated you with "kindness and respect" going to stand up and defend you? We all know the answer to that. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 53 minutes ago, Genmai said: Anybody else read this in Prayuth's voice? - "if you criticize anything that means you hate Thailand". Nice try. Note I haven't said a single thing here suggesting I "hate" the country. All I'm doing is asking questions about this story's authenticity in the context of a huge online group of people who CLEARLY hate farangs. But I'm the "problem". Nice. Bro, if you're having the time of your life in Thailand and everybody loves you then I'm genuinely happy for you. I don't have a problem with happy people going about their happy lives. What I DO have a problem with is people who think their **** don't stink. Seems some people either have a terribly short memory, or are deliberately glossing over the facts. I'll let the comments of many Thais from Spotlight speak for themselves: And then there is the video made by the admin of the page in English which has since been taken down (I think there's a copy on YouTube someone uploaded but can't find it) where he clearly says "All foreigners - young, old, man, woman, child" "You are s***t" "I hate you" "Go home and die" But apparently this is all fine because....... it's a giant joke! Hahaaaaaaa. I guess he took down the video of his racist ranting because it was too funny? And he has never made a public apology to foreigners and clarify his position because he's too much of a funny guy? Can I make a FB page calling on all farangs to get slingshots and shoot Thais that are out and about? And make videos about how all Thais are "insert-derogatory-slur-here"? Then when I get called out for it just claim "guys guys guys.... we were just jokiiiiiiiiing"? The guy got the FB ban-hammer and was exposed for the hate-driven farang basher that he is, then removed all evidence and all English comments pointing to his garbage, never issued an apology/statement and is now growing a second FB page. But somehow I'm the problem for pointing out that a feel-good-praise-the-Thais Phuket story at this exact time is a little hard to believe? See, I completely agree with you here. Phuket is a pretty awesome place (built largely on visitors' money). The difference is that I also believe THIS is the motivation behind the article. Damage control. I'm not here to rain on your parade. If you're living the life then all the more power to you. But if you're going to claim people like myself are the problem, then I'll say you need to ask yourself one question - If a gang of angry locals with slingshots come round your house today, are your amazing friendly Thai neighbors who've only ever treated you with "kindness and respect" going to stand up and defend you? We all know the answer to that. So you felt a story about Thai helping tourists needed balance? Is that it. Anger welled up in you because something nice was being said? A story about kindness has caused all of this regurgitation? I think all the Thai bashers should leave this forum and never return. The result would probably be wecomed by Thai people who drop in here from time to time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genmai Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: So you felt a story about Thai helping tourists needed balance? Not balance. Context and healthy skepticism. Is that something you're against? Keep peddling the hateful-farang-filled-with-rage narrative. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) Nice to see a kind gesture. Good on him for helping out. Now, what we really need to see are major acts of largesse by the super rich, who have made it a habit of hoarding their fortunes, even in such times as these. 1. Dhanin Chearavanont: US$16.9 billion 2. Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi: US$16.6 billion 3. Sarath Ratanavadi: US$9 billion 4. Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha: US$5 billion 5. Sumet Jiaravanon: US$4.6 billion 6. Jaran Chiaravanont: US$4.5 billion 7. Montri Jiaravanont: US$4.4 billion 8. Harald Link: US$3.5 billion 9. Prasert Prasarttong-Osoth: US$3.3 billion 10. Chuchat Petaumpai & Daonapa Petampai: US$3.1 billion 11. Vanich Chaiyawan: US$3 billion 12. Krit Ratanarak: US$2.6 billion 13. Keeree Kanjanapas: US$2.6 billion 14. Prachak Tangkaravakoon: US$2.4 billion 15. Somphote Ahunai: US$2.3 billion 16. Kiat Chiaravanont: US$2 billion 17. Prayudh Mahagitsiri: US$1.9 billion 18. Wichai Thongtang: US$1.9 billion 19. William Heinecke: US$1.9 billion 20. Thaksin Shinawatra: US$1.9 billion 21. Niti Osathanugrah: US$1.8 billion 22. Chatchai Kaewbootta: US$1.4 billion 23. Phongthep Chiaravanont: US$1.3 billion 24. Yupa Chiaravanond: US$1.3 billion 25. Prathip Chiravanond: US$1.3 billion 26. Manas Chiaravanond: US$1.2 billion 27. Sathien Setthasit: US$1.2 billion 28. Thongma Vijitpongpun: US$1.2 billion 29. Rit Thirakomen: US$1.2 billion 30. Surin Upatkoon: US$1.1 billion 31. Anant Asavabhokin: US$1.1 billion It is time to step up. Time to show that your entire existence is NOT JUST about you and your family. You saw you love your nation? Show it. Demonstrate it. There is alot of need out there, and the government is barely stepping up, ignorantly turning down nearly 90% of all applicants for it's assistance program. Edited April 12, 2020 by spidermike007 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post patbkk90 Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 I agree that some of the things we have seen since the outbreak of this crisis have been sobering and disappointing. However, I also do have to say that overall, I still think that (most) Thai people still have their heart in the right place. I think we shouldn't judge all Thais by the bad, and unacceptable behaviour of those that post the most outrageous comments on FB. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Nice to see a kind gesture. Good on him for helping out. Now, what we really need to see are major acts of largesse by the super rich, who have made it a habit of hoarding their fortunes, even in such times as these. 1. Dhanin Chearavanont: US$16.9 billion 2. Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi: US$16.6 billion 3. Sarath Ratanavadi: US$9 billion 4. Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha: US$5 billion 5. Sumet Jiaravanon: US$4.6 billion 6. Jaran Chiaravanont: US$4.5 billion 7. Montri Jiaravanont: US$4.4 billion 8. Harald Link: US$3.5 billion 9. Prasert Prasarttong-Osoth: US$3.3 billion 10. Chuchat Petaumpai & Daonapa Petampai: US$3.1 billion 11. Vanich Chaiyawan: US$3 billion 12. Krit Ratanarak: US$2.6 billion 13. Keeree Kanjanapas: US$2.6 billion 14. Prachak Tangkaravakoon: US$2.4 billion 15. Somphote Ahunai: US$2.3 billion 16. Kiat Chiaravanont: US$2 billion 17. Prayudh Mahagitsiri: US$1.9 billion 18. Wichai Thongtang: US$1.9 billion 19. William Heinecke: US$1.9 billion 20. Thaksin Shinawatra: US$1.9 billion 21. Niti Osathanugrah: US$1.8 billion 22. Chatchai Kaewbootta: US$1.4 billion 23. Phongthep Chiaravanont: US$1.3 billion 24. Yupa Chiaravanond: US$1.3 billion 25. Prathip Chiravanond: US$1.3 billion 26. Manas Chiaravanond: US$1.2 billion 27. Sathien Setthasit: US$1.2 billion 28. Thongma Vijitpongpun: US$1.2 billion 29. Rit Thirakomen: US$1.2 billion 30. Surin Upatkoon: US$1.1 billion 31. Anant Asavabhokin: US$1.1 billion It is time to step up. Time to show that your entire existence is NOT JUST about you and your family. You saw you love your nation? Show it. Demonstrate it. There is alot of need out there, and the government is barely stepping up, ignorantly turning down nearly 90% of all applicants for it's assistance program. What EXACTLY are you asking Thai people to do from the safety of your existance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: What EXACTLY are you asking Thai people to do from the safety of your existance? I feel he is asking the Thai billionaires to assit the Thai people in their time of hunger and dislocation. He is not asking for his safety or existance, but for compassion and empathy from those who are adequately provided for. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 51 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: 1. Dhanin Chearavanont: US$16.9 billion 2. Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi: US$16.6 billion 3. Sarath Ratanavadi: US$9 billion 4. Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha: US$5 billion 5. Sumet Jiaravanon: US$4.6 billion 6. Jaran Chiaravanont: US$4.5 billion 7. Montri Jiaravanont: US$4.4 billion 8. Harald Link: US$3.5 billion 9. Prasert Prasarttong-Osoth: US$3.3 billion 10. Chuchat Petaumpai & Daonapa Petampai: US$3.1 billion 11. Vanich Chaiyawan: US$3 billion 12. Krit Ratanarak: US$2.6 billion 13. Keeree Kanjanapas: US$2.6 billion 14. Prachak Tangkaravakoon: US$2.4 billion 15. Somphote Ahunai: US$2.3 billion 16. Kiat Chiaravanont: US$2 billion 17. Prayudh Mahagitsiri: US$1.9 billion 18. Wichai Thongtang: US$1.9 billion 19. William Heinecke: US$1.9 billion 20. Thaksin Shinawatra: US$1.9 billion 21. Niti Osathanugrah: US$1.8 billion 22. Chatchai Kaewbootta: US$1.4 billion 23. Phongthep Chiaravanont: US$1.3 billion 24. Yupa Chiaravanond: US$1.3 billion 25. Prathip Chiravanond: US$1.3 billion 26. Manas Chiaravanond: US$1.2 billion 27. Sathien Setthasit: US$1.2 billion 28. Thongma Vijitpongpun: US$1.2 billion 29. Rit Thirakomen: US$1.2 billion 30. Surin Upatkoon: US$1.1 billion 31. Anant Asavabhokin: US$1.1 billion Its out of date that list, Im not on there 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: I feel he is asking the Thai billionaires to assit the Thai people in their time of hunger and dislocation. He is not asking for his safety or existance, but for compassion and empathy from those who are adequately provided for. A strange place to address thai billionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idiot farang Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 12:10 PM, colinneil said: Now heres a thought, what about all members on here now they are saving money not buying beer, dipping their pockets, and giving some poor Thai people a bit of food, you know just like the Thai man did for farangs. I did that, milled about 12-14 kilos of rice, wife handed out to a few poor people. Come on you lot, get up of your backsides and do your bit, help poor folk. Virtue signalling at its finest. Everyone who does something kind doesn't feel the need to post about it. It's what you do when nobody's looking that really defines one's character- something that's completely lost in the narcissistic world of today. Love the range of those kilo's of rice. Personally, I'd have gone with a narrower range- a 2 kilo difference seems rather wide... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, idiot farang said: Virtue signalling at its finest. Everyone who does something kind doesn't feel the need to post about it. It's what you do when nobody's looking that really defines one's character- something that's completely lost in the narcissistic world of today. Love the range of those kilo's of rice. Personally, I'd have gone with a narrower range- a 2 kilo difference seems rather wide... So what have you done to help others less fortunate than you? Instead of mocking me, get up off your a++e and do something. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idiot farang Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, colinneil said: So what have you done to help others less fortunate than you? Instead of mocking me, get up off your a++e and do something. woosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thongdee Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 9:52 AM, Genmai said: How about a certain FB page with 600,000 followers calling for Phuket locals to gather up slingshots and shoot rocks at whitey's head? Can we criticize that? Or how about the fact that that page isn't on Thai news but this feelgood "All-Thais-Are-Angels" story is? A genuine good-hearted gesture? Sure, if it's real. But you can't deny this stinks of a damage control PR campaign. C'mon, think of the bigger picture here. A 600,000 strong FB Phuket-based page of racists getting some public attention, and then suddenly- boom - like clockwork, a feel-good article about the kindness of Phuket people? No. It's no different to stories of honest taxi drivers turning in bags of diamonds and cash that get published like clockwork after another story of condemnation. Edit: I'll also add that the ThaiVisa article about that FB page in question is no longer available. Make of that what you will! that guy who started that story, i get in a fight with him ,he just needs attention ,he did go to search all my information , had a look in my banc acountnumber , then checked my sim and address and also visa , lol he sure did try , after all i invited him for a chat and .....he blocked everything and disappierd , he threaten to go to my house, a real man , cant wait to meet him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thongdee Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 10:27 AM, Genmai said: Why? On 4/11/2020 at 10:24 AM, Matzzon said: You should feel ashamed! ashamed for what, another blind tourist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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