Police speak with German expats accused of demolishing coronavirus barrier in Chiang Mai

[taotoo]

23 minutes ago, Throatwobbler said:

Foreigners take matters into their own hands. Now just imagine if this was the UK and a group of foreigners did this. The right wing press would be having a field day. The comments section would be calling for blood and demanding that all foreigners be removed from the UK because they do not care about the health of the locals. I am not saying that this is right but people need to remember that hatred against immigrants happens all over the world. Looking at what happens in other parts of the world us white immigrants who live here have it pretty easy.

There wouldn't be a home made roadblock, and if there was the council would remove it promptly. The locals would be warned not to set up another one. The foreigners would not be investigated by immigration.

[NanLaew]

51 minutes ago, trainman34014 said:

Anyway; the German Bloke has a shop selling freshly Baked Bread and Frozen Foods and this is the road that everyone uses to get to his shop, so customers were prevented from getting in and assumed he was closed. 

Are German home-made bread bakeries on the list of 'essential services'?

 

Anyone?

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, ravip said:

Whether the road block was legal or not, NO ONE has the right to take the law onto their own hands. That is as bad as putting up an illegal road block.

If you had a house, with a gate and a block wall surrounding it, then in your eyes, Would it be okay if I built a wall directly in front of your gate and locked you into your property.  Would you call the police to remedy the situation ? or Would you open the gate and break an opening in the wall so you could leave your property.  If it was the only way in and out of the sub division, then in your eyes is it okay to block the road, which more than likely is a right of way, and the only people that can block the roadway legally would be the Tambon and notification to the residence would have too be given, along with an alternate way to egress from the location. 

 

To put it another way: If a large dead buffalo was blocking the road, and it was not your buffalo you could not remove it from the roadway, even though the roadway was a legal right of way for ingress and egress.  Is that what your trying to say here.

 

I am at a loss as to why it would not be okay to remove an obstacle that was blocking a roadway....or did I misinterpret  "Whether the road block was legal or not, NO ONE has the right to take the law onto their own hands. That is as bad as putting up an illegal road block."

Edited April 11, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[Chazar]

2 hours ago, OneeyedJohn said:

The headline says demolished.

How do you demolish 4 concrete pipes and 6 bamboo poles plus a bit of cardboard ?

Fart on it?

[johng]

10 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

home-made bread bakeries on the list of 'essential services'?

They should be...the stuff they sell wrapped in plastic from the "convenience" stores  is terrible,  left some outside in the garden for almost a month..no mould and even the ants didn't touch it !!!!

[Odysseus123]

40 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Many countries have that problem.

But...hey..we are talking about Thailand,nu?

 

The appalling reporting-completely inane-has been corrected by posters who appear to know the facts of the matter.

 

For which I thank them.

[Trujillo]

Food is essential. 

Bread is food. 

Therefore, bread is essential. 

[connda]

If a barrier was placed on the road keeping me from accessing my home?  I'd dismantle it too.

Notice.  The local Thais create a barrier that keeps the farangs out.  Then complain to 'the authorities' who then bring down the authority of Immigration to deal with the 'ai' farang who are so cheeky that they dismantled barriers erected to keep them from accessing their own homes.

What should be "investigated" is the Covid-19 inspired racism of the Thai locals who (illegally) erected a barrier across a public road in the first place meant to keep foreign resident for reaching their own homes.

[Yadon Toploy]

53 minutes ago, taotoo said:

There wouldn't be a home made roadblock, and if there was the council would remove it promptly. The locals would be warned not to set up another one. The foreigners would not be investigated by immigration.

Correct answer.

 

Too many people gone troppo here with puzzled thinking.

 

54 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Are German home-made bread bakeries on the list of 'essential services'?

 

Anyone?

Are they not a food take away business and thus can open for business?

[OneeyedJohn]

I agree.

The local coffee shop I use to buy freshly roasted beans is open but with  a stool and tray set 1 metre + from the counter.

If they close then they go bust.

 

I go every two weeks and buy 1/2 kilo each time, which gives me 2 cups per day for the month.

Fresh roasted beans are no good after two weeks so this arrangement suits me perfectly.

500 baht per kilo which isn't a lot - try buying Lavazza in a supermarket.

But if he has 500 customers per week doing the same as me, then it adds up.

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by OneeyedJohn

[riclag]

I hope the Thais don't just stereotype all falangs!

[Odysseus123]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

I hope the Thais don't just stereotype all falangs!

Oh..I think that we are stereotyped...all right.

 

[Odysseus123]

36 minutes ago, Yadon Toploy said:

Correct answer.

 

Too many people gone troppo here with puzzled thinking

Yes indeed..quite noticeable.

 

The British Army called it going "doolally" the French Foreign Legion called it "Le cafard"

 

Omnipresent in Isaan-and from what I have seen-Pattaya too.

[ChaiyaTH]

Insanity at the max. Throwing immigration on it while it has nothing to do with it. Aside of the fact that this road block is illegal, it is a public road and set-up by civil people. No to mention it is entirely useless. More than happy to help destroying further road blocks like these in CM area.

Police should be speaking with those who set-up the road block and fine them accordingly. Leave the others alone.

Edited April 11, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[Matzzon]

5 hours ago, cmsally said:

how does this barricade stop Covid?

When the virus sees the barricade and read the sign, it realizes it forgot the map and where the other road is. It will simply skip this area and move on to easier hunting grounds.

Edited April 11, 2020 by Matzzon

[300sd]

Lost that warm fuzzy feeling long ago.

[scorecard]

40 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Yes indeed..quite noticeable.

 

The British Army called it going "doolally" the French Foreign Legion called it "Le cafard"

 

Omnipresent in Isaan-and from what I have seen-Pattaya too.

In a place like Pattaya, given the oft seen attitudes and behaviors of a % of farang both resident and tourists are you really surprised some locals are negative about foreigners?

[ChaiyaTH]

And if a fire starts down the village, and the firetruck is too late due to this illegal roadblock, and insurance refuses to pay, they will cry in the news.

[thurien]

so exciting again...muua muua

[Odysseus123]

46 minutes ago, scorecard said:

In a place like Pattaya, given the oft seen attitudes and behaviors of a % of farang both resident and tourists are you really surprised some locals are negative about foreigners?

Well..you are a well noted farang hater..but leaving that to one side the idea of "doolally"  and "le cafard" is that due to boredom,lack of intellectual stimulation and a general sense of purposelessness one simply loses touch with reality...

 

Hence the habitual tactics of denial,deflection and displacement on display by a number of posters on this thread.

 

The reality-not reported by the intrepid Thai reporter-is that an illegal barrier was placed across the road and when some folks (foreigners) decided to remove it they were hauled off to the police station to explain themselves-and be investigated by Thai Immigration as well.

 

On a general point I believe that you are an Australian-but you will never be a Thai..

My Thai wife,on the other hand,is well on her way to becoming an Australian.

 

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by Odysseus123

[riclag]

34 minutes ago, 300sd said:

Lost that warm fuzzy feeling long ago.

If your over 65 and have conditions, be prepared to lay low for a year or , until a vaccine comes.

[trainman34014]

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Are German home-made bread bakeries on the list of 'essential services'?

 

Anyone?

Food Shops are allowed to stay open for takeaway food !

[NanLaew]

7 minutes ago, trainman34014 said:

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Are German home-made bread bakeries on the list of 'essential services'?

 

Anyone?

Food Shops are allowed to stay open for takeaway food !

True. But food shops are typically found in supermarkets or commercial shophouses and not in private homes in or near housing estates.

 

My take is some of the narrow-minded and less-worldly villagers resented the farangs driving into their village to go shopping. Who knows, maybe some of the Germans would stop to chat if they hit the baker at the same time. A bit of socializing and catching up on the latest news.

 

The popular narrative is it is only OK for the locals to flaunt social distancing in this way. Farangs are all supposed to be inside and hidden from sight.

 

Along with the wording on the cardboard, if it took a of panzerdivision of Germans to move this 'barrier', I detect a bit of 'them and us' is going on.

[daveAustin]

5 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

Foreigners take matters into their own hands. Now just imagine if this was the UK and a group of foreigners did this. The right wing press would be having a field day. The comments section would be calling for blood and demanding that all foreigners be removed from the UK because they do not care about the health of the locals. I am not saying that this is right but people need to remember that hatred against immigrants happens all over the world. Looking at what happens in other parts of the world us white immigrants who live here have it pretty easy.

You're joking right? As was pointed out, locals in the UK (why are you even making this about the UK?) would not be able to take matters into their own hands by setting up roadblocks. And second, if anything, and non-British residents did were to show some initiative, they'd have the full backing of the country, as is it's meek way with anything minority at this point in time.

 

I think you'd be singing a different tune if it were your house blocked off. How's it go? I'm alright, jack!

[ChouDoufu]

4 hours ago, connda said:

If a barrier was placed on the road keeping me from accessing my home?  I'd dismantle it too.

Notice.  The local Thais create a barrier that keeps the farangs out.  Then complain to 'the authorities' who then bring down the authority of Immigration to deal with the 'ai' farang who are so cheeky that they dismantled barriers erected to keep them from accessing their own homes.

What should be "investigated" is the Covid-19 inspired racism of the Thai locals who (illegally) erected a barrier across a public road in the first place meant to keep foreign resident for reaching their own homes.

 

remember where we are.

 

it's quite normal for shopkeepers to take over the public sidewalk in front of their businesses for their bbq ovens and tables and chairs and merchandise displays, forcing pedestrians into the roadway.

 

it's also normal to build barriers out of flowerpots, or slap together brick walls, to prevent people from walking though "their" sidewalk area.

 

other normal behavior is to drill holes in the sidewalk to permanently bolt signs down, blocks away from their establishment.

 

and don't forget the traffic cones or planters some will set out to guard "their" parking spaces on the public roads, or to keep others from parking next to their building.

[ravip]

5 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

Foreigners take matters into their own hands. Now just imagine if this was the UK and a group of foreigners did this. The right wing press would be having a field day. The comments section would be calling for blood and demanding that all foreigners be removed from the UK because they do not care about the health of the locals. I am not saying that this is right but people need to remember that hatred against immigrants happens all over the world. Looking at what happens in other parts of the world us white immigrants who live here have it pretty easy.

Very few realise this. Most behave as if they are doing a favour by living in Thailand and the Thais are 3rd class citizens who should bow down to them. With time, things will get worse for foreigners, for sure.

Edit

The simplest and the best thing to have done in this instant, was NOT to take the law unto ones own hand - but maybe those foreigners act the same in their home country and it comes natural to them.

Edited April 11, 2020 by ravip

[Myran]

Who erected the barrier? Did they have permission to seal off what is presumably a public road? Why didn't the police bring those people in?

 

There's so much missing information in this story, it almost feels like click bait.

[digger70]

8 hours ago, cmsally said:

Not enough explanation to know what is going on . The barricade seems to have been set up by the locals . It tells people to "use the road past the school" instead. So basically if people can still get to their destinations by taking a detour, how does this barricade stop Covid?

Thai Logic  ?

[tandor]

...well what a sham of an article!...the reporter doesn't this, doesn't know that, doesn't know something else..how about waiting for the police to investigate and publish their findings...idiotic, sensationalism.

[Kennycrossfit]

33 minutes ago, ravip said:

Very few realise this. Most behave as if they are doing a favour by living in Thailand and the Thais are 3rd class citizens who should bow down to them. With time, things will get worse for foreigners, for sure.

Edit

The simplest and the best thing to have done in this instant, was NOT to take the law unto ones own hand - but maybe those foreigners act the same in their home country and it comes natural to them.

What law were they breaking?