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2 minutes ago, spider1197 said:

I'm in the same boat as you.  Live here in Thailand and did not file tax return and receive SS through BB NY and then receive it in my local BB account here in Thailand.  I have not received any Stimulus payment.  I will check next week.  

Spider:  I pay US taxes every year via TurboTax and IRS EFT, have a UPS address, and several US bank accounts.  They haven't sent a check to the FL UPS address, bank accounts, or through IRS EFT.  I will just forget about it and hopefully one day it will appear.

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from a friend with 3 kids in Korat yesterday awoke to this from his US bank

Reports are that some have already received theirs.  I'm eagerly waiting.  What are we talking here, about $1200?  That will come in handy.

It is based on filing status Social Security Number Taxable income level But not residency

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22 minutes ago, parallaxtech said:

Spider:  I pay US taxes every year via TurboTax and IRS EFT, have a UPS address, and several US bank accounts.  They haven't sent a check to the FL UPS address, bank accounts, or through IRS EFT.  I will just forget about it and hopefully one day it will appear.

I you checked for its status here. https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment

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1 hour ago, spider1197 said:

I'm in the same boat as you.  Live here in Thailand and did not file tax return and receive SS through BB NY and then receive it in my local BB account here in Thailand.  I have not received any Stimulus payment.  I will check next week.  

i haven't either, idd to bbk , maybe the format wrong. tried to change to my tex. bank account and add my daughter, could not , form  froze  at final input. very concerned!!

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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

I you checked for its status here. https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment

Thanks, UbonJoe,

 

I assume that as a non filer, and receiver of monthly SSA by direct deposit to BkkBank Bkk, there is no point in my trying to use the on-line resources for stimulus information. Correct ?

 

thanks, ~o:37;

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2 hours ago, Pib said:

If you cash it at a Bangkok Bank branch it should be $15 plus a Bt3 stamp duty for payment after the check clears.  Or, if the check qualifies, Bt400 plus Bt3 stamp duty before the check clears.   See 1st weblink/snapshot below. 

 

At Krungsri Bank it appears there is a $10 collection fee plus $25 handling fee plus the 3Bt Stamp duty charges.    See 2nd weblink/snapshot below.

 

https://www.bangkokbank.com/en/Personal/Other-Services/-/media/7AE8A01CC2FA48A2B7B823D4EF4CE13A.ashx

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https://www.krungsri.com/bank/getmedia/4fcb7957-fc13-43fb-8196-d47f039706a3/international-payment-system-18022019.aspx

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Was looking at the Bank of Thailand webpage describing varies fees that Thai banks voluntarily report to BOT for info only.   Below are some partial quotes for some Thai banks reporting foreign check cashing fees to BOT.  Seems an approx Bt400/$15 plus Bt3 stamp duty is common although Standard Chartered Bank seems to charge $35 plus Bt3 stamp duty....and Krungsri Bank seems to want around $25-$35 shown above.  

 

Partial quotes from BOT webpage.

https://www.bot.or.th/app/feerate/internal.aspx?PageNo=23

 

Bangkok Bank  

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foreign financial instrument (Foreign banks are the payers)
- In the case that the bank pays the money before collecting it from the foreign bank (Advance Payment) is charged 400 baht per copy, plus 3 baht per copy of stamp duty
 

- In case the bank collects from the foreign bank before payment (Collection First) will be charged USD 15 per issue, plus 3 baht per duty stamp, plus the fee that the foreign bank charges (if any)

 

 

Siam Commercial Bank (SCB)

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Traveler's Check: 150 baht / copy (not including
duty stamp 3 baht)
draft : 200 baht / copy (not including duty stamp 3 baht) Foreign bills: Bill Receivable 400 baht / bill collection 15 USD (excluding Duty Stamp 3 baht and the fees that foreign banks charge at the destination)

 

Standard Chartered Bank

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1. Check deposit / collection Foreign currency Into a foreign currency account
- the amount charged up to USD 50,000 or equivalent = USD 35 plus Com. In Lieu 0.125% of the amount plus 3 baht stamp duty

 

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19 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

There are very few reasons why someone wouldn't be eligible,and the IRS stated these on their site. I know I'm eligible, and so do many others that live here, so I guess they still haven't gotten around to us. If you aren't eligible, they should at least tell you and why,so you can dispute if need be. All that receive SS retirement should at least receive the $1200. I haven't filed since 2017 so I went to non filers. I have a child so I went to the IRS site and gave them her and my bank information. I'm wondering if that slowed down my receiving anything.

The kill switch for many of us seems to be having ITIN on tax return.  Even if we have SSN if a joint return and spouse has ITIN no payment is made to anyone from my understanding, and experience.  

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19 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

The kill switch for many of us seems to be having ITIN on tax return.  Even if we have SSN if a joint return and spouse has ITIN no payment is made to anyone from my understanding, and experience.  

That's what you get for trying to do the right thing. How dare you get an ITIN for your wife?

I also am in the same boat as you. Seems as though because I got an ITIN for my wife, I am not eligible.

How this makes any sense is a mystery to me. 

I pay my taxes every year. Uncle Sam has no problem taking my money even If my wife has an ITIN. Go figure.  BTW, mods... where re my emogis?

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7 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

The kill switch for many of us seems to be having ITIN on tax return.  Even if we have SSN if a joint return and spouse has ITIN no payment is made to anyone from my understanding, and experience.  

That's why some aren't being paid I'm sure. I'm married,but have never filed jointly with my wife. She doesn't have a SS number or ITIN. I filed, on the IRS site for non filers, single, with my daughter and I's social security numbers and my Thai address, along with my bank account info. I emailed my previous tax preparers back in Texas and she told me the same, that some others who have filed at the same time have been paid while some haven't yet. She stated that filers would be paid first, then SS recipients.

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I know we are talking "just getting the current stimulus payment" but more and more news articles and politicians are talking the possibility of a second (or more) round of stimulus payments based on comments/proposed bills from the White House on down.  This COVID-19 black swan event has made many politicians very receptive to paying out more money since it's election year, it's borrowed money, and generally not many people seem too concerned about running up the national debt. 

 

Additional payment proposals all over the map.   I think the two articles below from The Hill sum-up the "all over the map" current thinking by our elected officials.   Some proposals seem to be focused towards just handing out more money to most everyone like the current stimulus payment and some proposals more targeted.  Time will tell, but with Democrats and Republicans trying to out do each other during an election year, my bet is more big stimulus payments beyond this current stimulus payment are to come.  

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/496896-democrats-rally-behind-monthly-2000-relief-checks

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/496720-republicans-not-sold-coronavirus-relief-checks

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I believe the ss checks should be out next week as the required submissions regarding those with dependents has just completed to my understanding.  This should clear the way for the final SS checks?

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44 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

The kill switch for many of us seems to be having ITIN on tax return.  Even if we have SSN if a joint return and spouse has ITIN no payment is made to anyone from my understanding, and experience.  

Hopefully you will get the benefit when you file your taxes for 2020.  If you received no (advance)payment at this time you may still be able to use the refundable 2020 tax credit which is the funding source for this current round of payments.  I haven't yet seen any articles that attempt to explain what will happen when those who won't receive a payment now file their 2020 taxes jointly with a spouse with ITIN.

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13 minutes ago, Pib said:

I know we are talking "just getting the current stimulus payment" but more and more news articles and politicians are talking the possibility of a second (or more) round of stimulus payments based on comments/proposed bills from the White House on down.  This COVID-19 black swan event has made many politicians very receptive to paying out more money since it's election year, it's borrowed money, and generally not many people seem too concerned about running up the national debt. 

 

Additional payment proposals all over the map.   I think the two articles below from The Hill sum-up the "all over the map" current thinking by our elected officials.   Some proposals seem to be focused towards just handing out more money to most everyone like the current stimulus payment and some proposals more targeted.  Time will tell, but with Democrats and Republicans trying to out do each other during an election year, my bet is more big stimulus payments beyond this current stimulus payment are to come.  

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/496896-democrats-rally-behind-monthly-2000-relief-checks

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/496720-republicans-not-sold-coronavirus-relief-checks

I read somewhere when that was first mentioned that only US citizens with a US address will receive more payments. Would be nice if we did also but..........

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13 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

SUCCESS?  OR NOT?

 

last night was finally able to input my banking information for direct deposit.

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tonight i checked status, and a check will be mailed?  is this just a placeholder until fully updated?

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get my refund is "still processing return"

 

 

 

My guess since the payment has been scheduled for snail mail, it will continue that way.

 

https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment-frequently-asked-questions#bank

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15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I read somewhere when that was first mentioned that only US citizens with a US address will receive more payments. Would be nice if we did also but..........

"....read somewhere..." don't carry much weight. Plus many were saying the same thing about the first payment but almost 600,000 payments to US folks with foreign addresses has been paid out.

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Just now, Pib said:

That kinda like saying it's on the internet somewhere.  Give a specific link.  

I'm sorry Pib, it was a couple weeks ago on Yahoo and I haven't found it yet. All I remember is that it didn't affect me because of what it said, that only those with a US address would be paid. I'm sure that could change if it's not written in stone yet......................Just found this,and it didn't say anything about a US address,but that those with just direct deposit info would receive it, it says qualifying people so whatever that can mean......................https://fox8.com/news/americans-would-receive-2000-stimulus-check-each-month-through-covid-19-crisis-under-proposed-legislation/

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I've been reading every one on extra money and I don't see anywhere that those collecting SS will receive it.It looks like it's for those still working as far as i can see................Reps. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, and Ro Khanna, D-Calif., put forward that proposal earlier this month. Their bill calls for monthly payments for at least six months of at least $2,000 for adults 16 and over making less than $130,000 per year. Married couples earning less than $260,000 would receive at least $4,000 per month.

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8 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

That was the message I got, before the direct deposit to my bank happened. 

Thanks!  This is me too.  I successfully entered my direct deposit information on 5/8 and it said it would give me further details of when it would send my deposit, but then a day later it said it was now going to mail my check on 3/15 to the address I had on file (Thai address).  From what you are reporting, maybe this message screen is just a placeholder because this website is not real intuitive.  Thats good new.  I'll keep everybody posted if it does appear in my US bank account or not.  Thanks again all!

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14 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

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I finally got into this site after weeks of trying and also got the above.

 

Unfortunately it seems to mean they snail mailed it to me in Thailand...

 

Aside from taking forever and posisbly getting lost, it is hassle to deal with checks from US bank in Thailand and where I need the money anyhow is in my US account

 

I am wondering if - in case it even arrives -- I simply discard it rather than cashing it I can then claim a credit on my 2020 taxes? I am going to owe taxes in 2020 si this would work for me...

 

For those itnerested+ I get SS direct deposited to my US account, but also file income tax statremernt each year nad have never had a direct deposit refund. I file iwht a Thai address )so much for the *only taxpayers with US address qualify rumor*.

 

SO they do NOT use SS bank data at least nto if you filed a tax return

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5 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Aside from taking forever and posisbly getting lost, it is hassle to deal with checks from US bank in Thailand and where I need the money anyhow is in my US account

Have you checked your US bank?  Believe many allow electronic deposit these days.  I know USAA does as have done many times.

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4 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Have you checked your US bank?  Believe many allow electronic deposit these days.  I know USAA does as have done many times.

How can I do an electroric deposit of a physical check?

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4 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

How can I do an electroric deposit of a physical check?

You just scan the check with the "deposit from home type" function within your US bank ibanking or mbanking app...."many" US banks offer such...have for a long time.  Gosh, I was doing that 10 years ago with coupon rebate checks I would get mailed.  

 

For example check out the USAA video on how to deposit checks with mbanking...you can do it via ibanking also.

 

https://www.usaa.com/inet/wc/bank-how-to-videos?SearchRanking=2&SearchLinkPhrase=deposit from home

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Just now, Sheryl said:

How can I do an electroric deposit of a physical check?

Very simple if allowed.  You scan check front and back (or photo if using phone).  Enter internet web site and select deposit check and a simple enter amount, send scans of front and back.  Once done destroy check or mark void.  

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Just now, Pib said:

You just scan the check with the "deposit from home type" function within your US bank ibanking or mbanking app...."many" US banks offer such...have for a long time.  Gosh, I was doing that 10 years ago with coupon rebate checks I would get mailed.

Goodness I missed this development altogther, wish I had known before....but better late than nevrer. Thanks! If snail mail check comes through I will do this/

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36 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

I finally got into this site after weeks of trying and also got the above.

 

Unfortunately it seems to mean they snail mailed it to me in Thailand...

 

Aside from taking forever and posisbly getting lost, it is hassle to deal with checks from US bank in Thailand and where I need the money anyhow is in my US account

 

I am wondering if - in case it even arrives -- I simply discard it rather than cashing it I can then claim a credit on my 2020 taxes? I am going to owe taxes in 2020 si this would work for me...

 

For those itnerested+ I get SS direct deposited to my US account, but also file income tax statremernt each year nad have never had a direct deposit refund. I file iwht a Thai address )so much for the *only taxpayers with US address qualify rumor*.

 

SO they do NOT use SS bank data at least nto if you filed a tax return

 

other posters say they also got the above message after having their DD info accepted, but then quickly got the direct deposit.  probably an error due to preparing the program on short notice.

 

don't discard the check.  that's your payment!  irs records will show you've already received it.

 

check with your bank or credit union or broker - they may have remote deposit available for your checking/savings account.  if you do that, don't destroy or void the check until after the money has cleared.

 

i think the irs faq page had a link to a credit union (maybe was USAA?) that had made special arrangements to quickly and easily open accounts for those without in order to allow for direct deposit.  maybe google will know.

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When I enter my information with my Thai address I get this the information you have entered does not match our records. Please try again. The first time I tried it it worked but now it doesn't work

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1 hour ago, steveb6 said:

When I enter my information with my Thai address I get this the information you have entered does not match our records. Please try again. The first time I tried it it worked but now it doesn't work

I got that repeatedly at first too. You have to enter exactly as it is on your 1040 form and leave zip code field blank

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2 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

other posters say they also got the above message after having their DD info accepted, but then quickly got the direct deposit.  probably an error due to preparing the program on short notice.

 

don't discard the check.  that's your payment!  irs records will show you've already received it.

 

 

No, IRD records will show only that it was mailed to me.

 

I don:t give it more than 50% odds of arriving and if it does not, records will reflect it was never cashed.

 

If I do get it, based on info posters have provided, I:ll do an electronic deposit. But in normal times mail delivery fdrom abroad is iffy, and now with most flights suspended....

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