100 people visit Finance Ministry after being denied Bt5,000 handout

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100 people visit Finance Ministry after being denied Bt5,000 handout

By The Nation

 

 

About 100 people who were denied the government’s Bt5,000 handout travelled to Finance Ministry headquarters this morning (April 14) to demand an explanation.

 

After registration for the government’s Bt5,000 handout scheme experienced several errors, the ministry said registrants could appeal online if they were rejected.

 

When the 100 arrived, the office put up a notification explaining that the ministry would not entertain any complaints and appeals would have to be made via the official website.

 

This infuriated the group even further, and they marched to Finance Minister Uttama Savanayana’s office, demanding that he explain to them why they were refused the money in the first place.

 

Security officers had to block them from entering, before ministry permanent secretary Prasong Poontaneat and spokesman Lavaron Sangsanit came out to calm them down.

 

Most of the group were taxi drivers and merchants who lost their income amid the Covid-19 crisis.

 

They said they did not receive the money because the system showed that they were business owners and farmers, which they were not.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30385965

 

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[keith101]

So much for social distancing these people dont seem to consider theirs or anybody's health only money .

[YetAnother]

7 minutes ago, webfact said:

They said they did not receive the money because the system showed that they were business owners and farmers, which they were not.

didnt receive the money because it is a thai system

[scubascuba3]

I don't blame them at all, could be 100,000 in a week a two

[OnTheGround]

My regular moto taxi guy used to earn 800-1,000 per day. Now less than 200 per day. Have wife and 2 children in high school to support.

 

Their anger is totally understandable. This is not about the money, now it's about basic survival for many Thai people.

 

22+ million applicants / only 1.6 million accepted applications until now.

 

Brace for a coming storm.

[darrendsd]

Chatting with a friend of mine who works in a Pool Bar (not a lady bar - the place is registered and she pays tax etc)

 

All the staff there have been rejected for the handout

 

These staff are on 9000 Baht a month - they need it more than most

[hashmodha]

This is going to be an extremely serious and sensitive issue and the outcome is not going to be nice at all....I sincerely hope they find a solution and an amicable, workable compromise! Happy Songkran to all... feels so peculiar without people!????????

[kingofthemountain]

100 people they can handle

wait in few weeks when 1 million of hungry and angry people will be coming...

[champers]

The PM's tag line for this scheme is "Nobody left behind" but reality is the exact opposite for millions of vulnerable and needy people.

[FarFlungFalang]

16 minutes ago, champers said:

The PM's tag line for this scheme is "Nobody left behind" but reality is the exact opposite for millions of vulnerable and needy people.

The administration considers them nobodies that's why they are being left behind and I think there might be more nobodies that the administration will be able to handle if it dilly dallies to long.

[fforest1]

54 minutes ago, keith101 said:

So much for social distancing these people dont seem to consider theirs or anybody's health only money .

When your flat broke social distancing just does not matter much...

[varun]

38 minutes ago, champers said:

The PM's tag line for this scheme is "Nobody left behind" but reality is the exact opposite for millions of vulnerable and needy people.

Maybe they got their wires crossed and actually meant "Almost everybody left behind"

[ukrules]

The whole thing is a shambles like anything they do here.

 

They should give them all some money to cover the essentials or expect a revolt.

[colinneil]

Top and bottom of this is, Prayut and his cronies dont give a rats a++e about the people.

Make a BIG show of saying we will give all the needy 5000 baht, but when it comes down to it, the bar stewards are rejecting the vast majority of applicants... Bloody disgusting.

[rasmus5150]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Most of the group were taxi drivers and merchants

Taxi drivers always knows how to organize a god mob.

[CGW]

1 hour ago, keith101 said:

So much for social distancing these people dont seem to consider theirs or anybody's health only money .

"Let them eat cake"? your lack of empathy is sad! ???? 

They should toddle of home to protect the old who have never looked after themselves? 

[rasmus5150]

I understand their anger and frustration.

But instead of directing their anger at the ministers, they should understand that a huge number of Thai people saw this as a free-for-all money buffet. So many people tried to register in the hopes of getting free money, even though they knew that they were not eligible.

That's one of the reasons this process is very slow and filled with flaws.

 

Infinito Corruptio

[Matzzon]

I really hope this turns nasty for them. That´s the only way they will learn to not play with their citizens life and possibilities to take care of themself. A promise is a promise, and now it´s high time to live up to it more than ever before.

[jackdd]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Most of the group were taxi drivers and merchants who lost their income amid the Covid-19 crisis.

 

They said they did not receive the money because the system showed that they were business owners and farmers, which they were not.

Afaik taxi drivers are usually not employed, thus they are (one man) businesses, making them business owners.

When using the word "merchants", i assume they are not talking about Big C employees, but people who have their own business.

To me it sounds they are all business owners, but they claim they are not?

[fforest1]

7 minutes ago, rasmus5150 said:

I understand their anger and frustration.

But instead of directing their anger at the ministers, they should understand that a huge number of Thai people saw this as a free-for-all money buffet. So many people tried to register in the hopes of getting free money, even though they knew that they were not eligible.

That's one of the reasons this process is very slow and filled with flaws.

 

Infinito Corruptio

Most people were eligible except those covered by social security..... 

 

Now is the time one of those Thai flowcharts would come in handy to follow the money trail on this one....

Edited April 14, 2020 by fforest1

[darrendsd]

3 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

I understand their anger and frustration.

But instead of directing their anger at the ministers, they should understand that a huge number of Thai people saw this as a free-for-all money buffet. So many people tried to register in the hopes of getting free money, even though they knew that they were not eligible.

That's one of the reasons this process is very slow and filled with flaws.

 

Infinito Corruptio

The main reason is that a lot of people have no idea if they are eligible or not

 

My friend has been told because she is not a farmer she is not - that is total rubbish

 

Have a good look who is eligible according to the Govt announcement - can you work out which professions are eligible? Because I can't and Thais can't either

[rasmus5150]

1 hour ago, darrendsd said:

The main reason is that a lot of people have no idea if they are eligible or not

 

My friend has been told because she is not a farmer she is not - that is total rubbish

 

Have a good look who is eligible according to the Govt announcement - can you work out which professions are eligible? Because I can't and Thais can't either

I absolutely agree with you - it's impossible to comprehend who is eligible or not.

 

But, I live in a Middle/Hi-So "moo baan" and I think more than 75% of the inhabitants have applied for this handout. They are living in 10-20 mill. thb houses, and still believe they should get a piece of the action. I get pretty upset when I hear this, but I know when to keep my mouth closed - that's why I type it here instead ????

[Eibot]

8 hours ago, keith101 said:

So much for social distancing these people dont seem to consider theirs or anybody's health only money .

Social distending is really secondary when you don't have money to eat. I wouldn't care for covid-19 if I ran out of money to feed my children. 

[klauskunkel]

The PM is working hard on another song to appease and distract the hungry ones.

[Oziex1]

18 hours ago, OnTheGround said:

My regular moto taxi guy used to earn 800-1,000 per day. Now less than 200 per day. Have wife and 2 children in high school to support.

 

Their anger is totally understandable. This is not about the money, now it's about basic survival for many Thai people.

 

22+ million applicants / only 1.6 million accepted applications until now.

 

Brace for a coming storm.

Most likely a storm of back flips from the Government.

[Oziex1]

Have I become too cynical, or are we to expect some blathering official trying to explain how he received the Bt 5000 x 10 at the expense of those who need it?

[MiNombreEsFicticious]

17 hours ago, Matzzon said:

I really hope this turns nasty for them. That´s the only way they will learn to not play with their citizens life and possibilities to take care of themself. 

Totally agree. Once the middle class Thais who were making 30,000 or 35,000 baht run out of cash, which is going to be very soon, then this no longer is an issue only for the poor people. Middle class Thais are beyond angry about the government's handling of anything, and there will be millions of hungry, angry people with nothing left to lose who will be unstoppable. 

[Foghorn]

My sons football team was told if they won their next match they would be taken for a kfc , they won but then the teacher said he didn’t think they would win so no kfc , said it to make himself look good , I was told can’t talk about it not good speak about it

[timkeen08]

53 minutes ago, MiNombreEsFicticious said:

Totally agree. Once the middle class Thais who were making 30,000 or 35,000 baht run out of cash, which is going to be very soon, then this no longer is an issue only for the poor people. Middle class Thais are beyond angry about the government's handling of anything, and there will be millions of hungry, angry people with nothing left to lose who will be unstoppable. 

What might the reaction be with Thais being denied right and left over ฿5000 if it also got around to the general Thai population that American citizens are getting a stimulus deposit starting at ฿38,400+ if they work or not?  No application needed and an additional ฿16,000 for each legal dependant.  And small businesses can apply for a stimulus package as well.  Plus those on unemployment get a stimulus bonus of ฿19,200 on top of their monthly unemployment benefit.  This is what TRULY "no one left behind" looks like.  Do as you say does not seem to apply here.

[Sumarianson]

20 hours ago, keith101 said:

So much for social distancing these people dont seem to consider theirs or anybody's health only money .

There is no social distancing at the supermarkets! These people are without money, I feel for them. They are representative of millions that were refused on spurious grounds. The ministry need to get their act together and pay these people.