webfact Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Covid-19: "Kind hearted lady" distributing charity to homeless is prosecuted by Bangkok police Picture: Sanook A woman described in the media as a "kind hearted lady" will have to explain herself in court. She was handing out supplies to homeless people on Krung Kasem Road in the Hualampong area on the 12th of April. Crowds gathered and social distancing was not met. Pol Col Jaruphat Thongkamol, chief of the Phlap Phla Chai police, said that his investigation team were prosecuting the lady for contravening the emergency decree that is in place in Thailand. He urged charities and individuals to tell the authorities about handouts so that they can help to ensure that social distancing is carried out and the events do not contribute to the spread of coronavirus. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-04-22 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petermik Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 Well done the BIB....stick to the rules and forget about using common sense...you must be proud of yourselves 17 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, webfact said: He urged charities and individuals to tell the authorities about handouts so that they can help to ensure that social distancing is carried out and the events do not contribute to the spread of coronavirus. Makes sense. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peter14 Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 Shame shame and shame.. boycott Thailand... I can feel something is coming here in Thailand soon. People are desperate. 6 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Seems a long queue for homeless people....wonder how many are actually homeless and not just tagging on for a freebie 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post norfolkandchance Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Makes sense. For once, I agree with. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, webfact said: He urged charities and individuals to tell the authorities about handouts so that they can help to ensure that social distancing is carried out and the events do not contribute to the spread of coronavirus. That should have been made clear to everyone from the start so that everyone was on the same page - hardly her fault and taking her to court is a bit harsh - maybe she will counter sue because she was not informed of this arrangement and neither was anyone else 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 If the BIB had either brains or compassion, they would have set about organising the crowd so that social distancing was met, and the hungry still got their supplies. Prosecuting the woman is a step too far in my opinion. 26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Makes sense. yes it does make sense - but they should have made this clear from the start of the lockdown - so who is at fault 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 ^ Ignorance of the law is not a defence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OnTheGround Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 Prosecuting kind people who use their own savings, to help others in this difficult time ....... Out of words, really. Again they come with punishment, or close the event - when 1 call to Thessakit and request a few officers to attend the hand out - could have solved this, without wasting tax payers money. Sometimes %€(₩! words come short. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, darksidedog said: If the BIB had either brains or compassion, they would have set about organising the crowd so that social distancing was met, and the hungry still got their supplies. Prosecuting the woman is a step too far in my opinion. You are correct of course. Unfortunately, the government needs the fines money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, smedly said: yes it does make sense - but they should have made this clear from the start of the lockdown - so who is at fault Not assigning blame or fault. Just saying the bib statement makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 Just typical of the useless bloody police here, prosecuting a kind hearted person trying her best to help others. Hope your families never get into a situation where they have to accept charity from others. Ohh stupid me, that will never happen, because the clowns doing the prosecuting get all the money they need from harrassing motorists and others. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petermik Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 7 hours ago, darksidedog said: If the BIB had either brains or compassion. Non existent dd.....they would not have got their jobs in the first place if they had............ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBike09 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: ^ Ignorance of the law is not a defence. Fair do's when the law is clearly stated. Show me that's the case here and I'll agree with you. Many rules and regulations in Thailand include clauses stipulating requirements A / B / C and then "or as may be determined by a competent official", meaning that A/B/C can be tossed aside at the whim of some paper pusher. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 No crowd control. Its her own fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder26 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Vile and pathetic approach from the police force. They should assist in this situation, not prosecute. There were some other news where police was trying to fine people for not wearing masks. Which again is an unspeakable approach. Instead they could offer free masks to people that don't have one. I really despise the way the current government handles the lockdown enforcing unreasonable restrictions and penalties. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said: 51 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: ^ Ignorance of the law is not a defence. 23 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said: Fair do's when the law is clearly stated. Show me that's the case here and I'll agree with you. Many rules and regulations in Thailand include clauses stipulating requirements A / B / C and then "or as may be determined by a competent official", meaning that A/B/C can be tossed aside at the whim of some paper pusher. There was a similar incident to this in Bangkok about 2 weeks ago that was covered on the forum and no doubt in plenty of other media outlets. The crowd was dispersed, but to my knowledge, no prosecution was made. However the municipal authorities did state at the time that anyone who wished to arrange for food distribution should contact them first so that the proper arrangements, in compliance with the current rules, can be made. Now if I knew about that up here in rural Issan, folks in the city ought to know about it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelaoffy Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 The police of Thailand ! Certainly not servants if the people ! Failed kingdom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Quote The authorities have recently come out to try to manage to the proliferation of food and goods donations stations, after reports of lack of social distancing. They have asked the public to instead donate goods to them and allow them to do the distribution. However, not everyone is comfortable with this edict, preferring to do the distribution themselves. The new order is that no one may distribute food to more than 100 people per day. The lines have to also be socially distant and all people wear masks. Hand sanitisers must also be provided by those handing out the goods. Authorities do admit, however, that they do not have enough personnel to cover all distribution points, so ask the public to please follow the COVID procedures. I thought this article from Chiang Mai Citylife was quite interesting. Quote from article above (with my addition of some bits in bold - as I thought they were quite revealing) https://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/citynews/local/food-lines-growing-longer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, smedly said: That should have been made clear to everyone from the start so that everyone was on the same page - hardly her fault and taking her to court is a bit harsh - maybe she will counter sue because she was not informed of this arrangement and neither was anyone else The rules about maximum numbers allowed and the parameters of social distancing have all been stated clearly in the original SoE and all the subsequent municipal and provincial governor's edicts. A crowd is a crowd is a crowd, regardless of the selfless philanthropy that allegedly caused it. 1 hour ago, darksidedog said: If the BIB had either brains or compassion, they would have set about organising the crowd so that social distancing was met, and the hungry still got their supplies. Prosecuting the woman is a step too far in my opinion. The BiB is already a charity. Why on earth would they suddenly get all compassionate on us? FWIW, these public spirited donations sessions are playing out nationwide. In Udon, I have seen a couple of roadside events where eggs and rice are being handed out and the lines are long and nobody does the social distancing bit. I did see a set of red strobes on 'police' pickup but it was only the municipal trade watchdogs, the guys that bust the 'illegal' pavement-squatting noodle sellers, checking up on things. Nothing to see here, get your eggs and rice and move along now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JusticeGB Posted April 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 They, the BIB, could have issued a warning, taking the poor old lady to court for being a good Samaritan is out of order. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, NanLaew said: The rules about maximum numbers allowed and the parameters of social distancing have all been stated clearly in the original SoE and all the subsequent municipal and provincial governor's edicts. A crowd is a crowd is a crowd, regardless of the selfless philanthropy that allegedly caused it. I was referring to special arrangements you must apply if you are giving out aid - as in the OP - informing authorities so they can assist in enforcing the rules (their responsibility) smart (deleted) He urged charities and individuals to tell the authorities about handouts so that they can help to ensure that social distancing is carried out and the events do not contribute to the spread of coronavirus. Edited April 22, 2020 by smedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 A few days ago saw free food handout Jomtien beach, near sunset. Police were there, but did nothing to separate people aka social distancing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksniffer Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Wait until those people begin starving to death. Serious social unrest is coming soon if the lock downs continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 4 hours ago, darksidedog said: If the BIB had either brains or compassion, they would have set about organising the crowd so that social distancing was met, and the hungry still got their supplies. Prosecuting the woman is a step too far in my opinion. Absolutely! In every case where the BIB are arresting people trying to lend a hand, they should organize to help not arrest. I agree with you 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff65 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I guess their where no other crimes happening in Thailand on the day the person was arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick501 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 She should count herself lucky they didn't bust a cap in her ass. Hardcore criminals like this should have the book thrown at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsve Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) And a couple of days ago City Hall of Pattaya did exaxtly the same and there was hundreds of thais waiting to get food. Police come and did what, prosecuting the head of City Hall. No no, they had the hungry people to leave and without food. That is how the law works in a "democrazy" where a military regim have the power (but no brains). Do they ever think of when people will say enough is enough? Pack your bag and get ready to board your submarine MR PM. Edited April 22, 2020 by Parsve Ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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