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20 minutes ago, shy coconut said:

But when you and everyone else her just bang on and on and on about the 

same old stuff, you are not addressing any issues, you are not making constructive

criticism, you just sound like a whingeing pom or whatever nationality you may be.

 

I think by now most people here are aware that there are differences between

Thailand and many western countries, some people want to bring their own ideology

to a country that has its own. The things you and others are moaning about were here

when you moved here and will remain long after you've gone, there must have been 

something that enticed you to come, I'm sure no one forced you.

 

As for your last few lines, do you think the Thai authorities are monitoring this forum

looking for ways to improve their country? Pulling ideas out of your backside in some

odd quest to gain likes from miserable old men is an odd way to spend your time.

I frankly don't care if you think it's whingeing. You sound like a taciturn, defeatist who's given up on ever making things better.

 

These things seriously affect my quality of life in Thailand, they affect everyone's quality of life.

 

I came with a very favourably inclined attitude to Thailand but I was very shocked to find out how people drive here. How many accidents there are every day. When I see people wearing flip flops on motorcycles, little 3 year old girls standing on the bicycle I cringe at the stupidity, but it's much more than that, these people cause accidents and can kill you.

 

Equally whilst I knew about the air issue, when I experienced it I was surprised how bad it really was and it really is a major drawback on the quality of life in Thailand. Like enforcing traffic rules, it is again an issue that can be addressed. This is not about "ideology", I'm not trying to force communism on Thailand, I'm saying there are real problems and there are certain ways to fix them and they should be fixed. It is constructive criticism. 

 

I don't share this defeatist world view that things never change. They certainly do. And things in Thailand certainly have improved in many ways over the years, even if some have got worse.

 

For things to change it all starts with an idea, a notion, an understanding. And the more you tell Thais what is really wrong the more you contribute to a possibility that they themselves will demand change and something gets done. Of course if you sit in your rice field and just think nothing will ever change, then things will not change for the better.

 

I am pretty confident that Thailand will address the bad air issue, and steps will be taken to improve air quality, that will ultimately succeed. Because it really is not that impossible, it just takes local government to take action and then enforce laws. It is the enforcement of laws that is the real problem in Thailand. 

 

I don't get this mentality of just giving up, just accept driving is so bad you can never go on the roads. If nobody complains of course things will never improve. Everybody should complain until Thais are tired of hearing it, like you, and decide to do something.

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1 minute ago, 473geo said:

How many of your comments on this thread have been about 'her' without 'her' I doubt you would have any input here - maybe you are part of the problem?

Just pointing out how short sighted you are I say guys but I suspect you might be an alt account you are a little close too close the rim 🤣

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Just now, misterjames said:

Just pointing out how short sighted you are I say guys but I suspect you might be an alt account you are a little close too close the rim 🤣

I reckon you must be Elvis

 

Suspicious minds

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1 minute ago, Logosone said:

I frankly don't care if you think it's whingeing. You sound like a taciturn, defeatist who's given up on ever making things better.

 

These things seriously affect my quality of life in Thailand, they affect everyone's quality of life.

 

I came with a very favourably inclined attitude to Thailand but I was very shocked to find out how people drive here. How many accidents there are every day. When I see people wearing flip flops on motorcycles, little 3 year old girls standing on the bicycle I cringe at the stupidity, but it's much more than that, these people cause accidents and can kill you.

 

Equally whilst I knew about the air issue, when I experienced it I was surprised how bad it really was and it really is a major drawback on the quality of life in Thailand. Like enforcing traffic rules, it is again an issue that can be addressed. This is not about "ideology", I'm not trying to force communism on Thailand, I'm saying there are real problems and there are certain ways to fix them and they should be fixed. It is constructive criticism. 

 

I don't share this defeatist world view that things never change. They certainly do. And things in Thailand certainly have improved in many ways over the years, even if some have got worse.

 

For things to change it all starts with an idea, a notion, an understanding. And the more you tell Thais what is really wrong the more you contribute to a possibility that they themselves will demand change and something gets done. Of course if you sit in your rice field and just think nothing will ever change, then things will not change for the better.

 

I am pretty confident that Thailand will address the bad air issue, and steps will be taken to improve air quality, that will ultimately succeed. Because it really is not that impossible, it just takes local government to take action and then enforce laws. It is the enforcement of laws that is the real problem in Thailand. 

 

I don't get this mentality of just giving up, just accept driving is so bad you can never go on the roads. If nobody complains of course things will never improve. Everybody should complain until Thais are tired of hearing it, like you, and decide to do something.

until last year i had never lived in bkk or any of the other smokey areas of this country. i lived in the far south where it was quite pleasant all year round. now finishing up my first smoke season i will be changing things up come next year. unacceptable smog and pollution here in this part of the country will mean back to the south it is. 

 

so wonderful down there. 

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5 minutes ago, 473geo said:

I reckon you must be Elvis

 

Suspicious minds

I reckon you are thinking with you pElvis 😂 coz there's nothing suspicious about defending some strangers financial situation on a forum is there?

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1 minute ago, misterjames said:

I reckon you are thinking with you pElvis 😂 coz there's nothing suspicious about defending some strangers financial situation on a forum is there?

There has to be something strange about questioning a strangers bank balance after it has already been displayed on the forum, along with travel photographs in India, we are not talking your average Thai lady here who is straight from the garden of Isaan - understand?

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On 4/22/2020 at 10:12 AM, NCC1701A said:

this forum is full of haters. 

there is a topic right full of comments about hating Songkran. 

 

one of the first topics i started on this forum 8 years ago was asking about moving to Thailand. One of the every first replies I got was telling me to not move to Thailand because I would be killed. :shock1:

 

if you express any positivity on this forum you will be attacked. 

good luck.   

 

Keep positive you may yet meet the woman who wants to kill you :ermm:

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40 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Suppose daddy owned the hotel? - Give it up guys you have no idea how Yinn may have been funded

But they do. They are the know it all expats who know everything about everything.

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15 minutes ago, 473geo said:

There has to be something strange about questioning a strangers bank balance after it has already been displayed on the forum, along with travel photographs in India, we are not talking your average Thai lady here who is straight from the garden of Isaan - understand?

What's more strange is defending a strangers legitimately questionable bank balance if you ask me. 

 

Oh some pictures in India ? Using your logic I wonder why immigration wouldn't accept those instead of 800k in the bank? why don't you suggest it? because it makes perfect sense as a legitimate proof of funds (in your mind) 🤣

 

The thirst is so real here.. 

 

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2 minutes ago, misterjames said:

What's more strange is defending a strangers legitimately questionable bank balance if you ask me. 

 

Oh some pictures in India ? Using your logic I wonder why immigration wouldn't accept those instead of 800k in the bank? why don't you suggest it? because it makes perfect sense as a legitimate proof of funds (in your mind) 🤣

 

You are losing the plot a bit now - read my post again

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8 minutes ago, 473geo said:

You are losing the plot a bit now - read my post again

Ok lets get this straight then so you are saying that because you have seen some pictures of someone in India and someones bank book that it is proof positive that whoever posted them on a forum is some upper class Thai lady? if so I might have to make an alt steal some pics and ask you for a loan 🤣

 

If that were the case why would the visa be denied? I suspect Aus immigration aren't as easily duped as you are.

 

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1 minute ago, misterjames said:

Ok lets get this straight then so you are saying that because you have seem some pictures of someone in India and someones bank book that it is proof positive that they are some upper class Thai lady? if so I might have to make an alt steal some pics and ask you for a loan 🤣

That seals it then lower class would ask for loan, upper class not even considered it 😃

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4 minutes ago, 473geo said:
8 minutes ago, misterjames said:

Ok lets get this straight then so you are saying that because you have seem some pictures of someone in India and someones bank book that it is proof positive that they are some upper class Thai lady? if so I might have to make an alt steal some pics and ask you for a loan 🤣

That seals it then lower class would ask for loan, upper class not even considered it

can you 2 please make sure you wear a condom.

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2 minutes ago, 473geo said:

That seals it then lower class would ask for loan, upper class not even considered it 😃

Interesting reply I think that reply says more about who you really are than me. 

 

Had trouble justifying your logic there didn't you? 

 

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