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INFOGRAPHIC: Visa amnesty extension officially made law, confirmed by Thai Immigration

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On 4/24/2020 at 3:52 PM, ubonjoe said:

Nothing different from the ministerial order that was issued on April 7th that has been extended to the 31st of July.

If on a long stay extension of stay (one year or 90 days) they should apply for their new extension when it is due.

Not nitpicking Joe but do you really mean 30th

The poster above says July  31st?

As there will no doubt be a rush I am planning to fly out around a week before if flights are available say July 24

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4 hours ago, phartley58 said:

So, the wording of the Infographic says, "No need to do 90 day reporting", then goes on to say, "Immigration will process the above mentioned steps automatically".

 

I am on a Retirement Extension and I'm reading this to mean that when my current 90 day expires 23rd May that it will automatically be renewed for another 90 days (above) to 20th August and that I will have no need to visit Immigration again until around that time? Does this make sense or am I missing something? 

I'm in the same situation as you are (Retirement Extension) and that's the way I read it too. But to be on the safe side, I'm gonna do my 90 day reporting online when it is due in early July. It doesn't take much time to do and once I've done it, I'm covered either way.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, bbi1 said:

31st July is way too short. They should've given the amnesty until at least 31st December 2020.

 

Doubt borders will open in 3 months. Australia said December at the earliest, if not in 2021. Aussies are stuck here in Thailanduntil the end of this year, at least.

 

 

I disagree, but if you're right they will just have to extend the amnesty again.  I think borders with Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia will be slowly opening from 1 May, and this should enable the border runners to do their runs.  Flights to US and UK have never been completely suspended, so there's no reason why they won't increase in frequency in May/June.  If Australia continues to be hardcore and not admitting their own citizens, I guess Aussies stranded here will have to get a letter from their Embassy which will enable Immigration to extend their stay past 31 July.

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1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

And as long as we all follow the same procedure, immigration will have no excuse to attempt to fine/bribe any of us. This really is a case of 'united we are strong'.

 

No 90 day reports until they tell us otherwise. And when you do next visit immigration, make sure you have a copy of the order in your folder.

Yes exactly no need to attend for anyone until at least 31st July or as a new notification is issued.

 

Running along to do 90 day reports because its quick or to show 800k in bank etc etc will confuse immigration officers themselves! you have been told official statement amnesty unitl 31st July for all classes of visas no need to go, its written in blue and white and as i read it that includes visas that have simply been extended for the year ....they are still a visa albeit extended.....so they are not excluded.

 

Try calling 1178 immigration visa hotline as a guy did yesterday their was a whole thread on the subject he was told everybody has amnesty including retirement extensions until 31st July and or further announcement.

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4 minutes ago, sapson said:

Yes exactly no need to attend for anyone until at least 31st July or as a new notification is issued.

 

Running along to do 90 day reports because its quick or to show 800k in bank etc etc will confuse immigration officers themselves! you have been told official statement amnesty unitl 31st July for all classes of visas no need to go, its written in blue and white and as i read it that includes visas that have simply been extended for the year ....they are still a visa albeit extended.....so they are not excluded.

 

Try calling 1178 immigration visa hotline as a guy did yesterday their was a whole thread on the subject he was told everybody has amnesty including retirement extensions until 31st July and or further announcement.

Maybe it was lost in translation!  If there was no need for anyone to visit Immigration until 31 July, they may as well close it down!  Extensions of stay for work, marriage to a Thai and retirement do not require the holder to leave Thailand, therefore they can and should be processed at the required time.  How offices handle those who choose to let their extension expire and go after 31 July may differ from office to office - some may fine for overstay, some may be lenient. But there isn't much to gain by putting off the visit.

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16 minutes ago, sapson said:

Yes exactly no need to attend for anyone until at least 31st July or as a new notification is issued.

Immigration offices are still open, and apparently they accept to do the 90 days reports, and extensions.

 

So it seems there a choice,

visit them the day one is supposedly to do (less people now ) or wait till after 31 July.

 

One thing for sure, it still has to be done.

 

 

Addendum

My post is identical to the post here above.

 

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4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Maybe it was lost in translation!  If there was no need for anyone to visit Immigration until 31 July, they may as well close it down!  Extensions of stay for work, marriage to a Thai and retirement do not require the holder to leave Thailand, therefore they can and should be processed at the required time.  How offices handle those who choose to let their extension expire and go after 31 July may differ from office to office - some may fine for overstay, some may be lenient. But there isn't much to gain by putting off the visit.

Their is a requirement to keep people out of the offices an amnesty declared why would their be fines for overstay.

 

Clearly the directive says no need to for 90 day dont come which applies to all the classes of visas you mentioned as still requiring attendance at an office.

 

You interpret it as only tourist visas or visas requiring border runs are exempt.

 

 Fair enough, guess the guy at immigration has got it wrong ?

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23 hours ago, Cuchulainn said:

No mention of those on yearly Non O extensions (marriage and retirement) or am I missing something?

You may live here the whole year, every year, but Non O extensions are still temporary, that is to say for 1 year. Then you have to apply to extend again or be on overstay. That you must get a re entry permit to leave and come back without cancelling the extension is more evidence that it is temporary

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While those that read here may know , individuals and they have your address from TM30 should be notified in writing or thse ignorant of the legislation will still keep going in.

The subtext is locked doors no envelopes etc, the office i used to deal with is not trustworthy ignore national regulations therefore I continue to get my visas a long wa away and not from neighbour who works in the immi warns me against the corruption, this may change once the top scammer retires but the culture is ingrained.

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52 minutes ago, sapson said:

Their is a requirement to keep people out of the offices an amnesty declared why would their be fines for overstay.

 

Clearly the directive says no need to for 90 day dont come which applies to all the classes of visas you mentioned as still requiring attendance at an office.

 

You interpret it as only tourist visas or visas requiring border runs are exempt.

 

 Fair enough, guess the guy at immigration has got it wrong ?

Yeah, I think what the guy said was obviously misunderstood or inaccurate.

 

Just to be clear, my comment was about those living here on extensions of stay, which only need to be done once a year.  These are not covered by the amnesty, do not require you to leave Thailand and therefore still need to be done at Immigration.  The 90 day reports which these people also have to do, ARE covered by the amnesty, so there's no need to go to Immigration every 90 days to do these.  The requirement for 90 day reporting hasn't been suspended, so they will still need to be done once the amnesty finishes, and there's nothing to stop someone doing their report online or by mail, if they can.

 

Hope this explains it.

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Quick question. Given that July 31st is 90+ days from now does that mean everyone in Thailand will need to report 1 August? Or is it 90 days after July 31st that we'd need to report? regardless this act synchronizes every foreigner in the country to the same reporting day. Or case three, my next reporting date is 20 July, does this give me an auto extension on July 20 to +90 days thus report on or about Oct 20?

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3 minutes ago, geomc57 said:

Quick question. Given that July 31st is 90+ days from now does that mean everyone in Thailand will need to report 1 August? Or is it 90 days after July 31st that we'd need to report? regardless this act synchronizes every foreigner in the country to the same reporting day. Or case three, my next reporting date is 20 July, does this give me an auto extension on July 20 to +90 days thus report on or about Oct 20?

I don't think so.  If you do your report on 1 August, you won't be fined for missing your 20 July reporting date.  How long you can wait after 1 August is another question, but as the fine is 2,000 baht however late you are, you could just wait until you have to visit Immigration for your annual extension.  Or just do it at the required time by mail or online, if you don't want to go to Immigration.

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My flight back to the uk on may6 got cancelled and I was rebooked onto Sunday 10 which would have been a 3 day overstay but luckily I won’t have to go to IO

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2 minutes ago, ian carman said:

My flight back to the uk on may6 got cancelled and I was rebooked onto Sunday 10 which would have been a 3 day overstay but luckily I won’t have to go to IO

Is your flight to the UK still on for 10 May?  

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2 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Not nitpicking Joe but do you really mean 30th

The poster above says July  31st?

As there will no doubt be a rush I am planning to fly out around a week before if flights are available say July 24

Fixed now.

Just a typo I missed it should of been the 31st.

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