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5 minutes ago, JimShorts said:

Sources:

With all due respect, your "sources' stink, wiki is not a reliable source anymore (if it ever was?) the other is from 2005, personal exposure tells me they are not even vaguely correct & posted with an ulterior motive - like so much is these days!

I do realise that in this day and age it is very difficult to find reliable sources of correct info!

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On 1/15/2020 at 1:48 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Of course they can. Thailand's government has its own AQI scale that's different than the standard U.S./international one that's commonly used. And the impact of the Thailand scale is to allow higher levels of PM2.5 pollution before changing the alert warning color to indicate unhealthy. And those are the charts and color codings they use on the Thai government websites for PM2.5 reporting.

 

Thailand's the one that's officially declared that up to 50 micrograms of PM2.5 is no problem, contrary to the much lower limits set by both the WHO and the U.S. EPA as Max's post above explains....

 

But the AQI readings themselves are accurate....

 

it's up to you how to interpret them. It might be that you're perfectly fine with 300+. Fact is, the current AQI readings throughout Thailand, also carried out by members of the public using professional equipment cannot be gamed by government entities trying to sweep the issue under the carpet. 

They might try however...

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With the strong THB and bad air pollution in most of Thailand during large part of the year that will not get better in atleast 30-40 years. It is a good time to sell and buy foreign currencies. See you!

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5 hours ago, CGW said:

With all due respect, your "sources' stink, wiki is not a reliable source anymore (if it ever was?) the other is from 2005, personal exposure tells me they are not even vaguely correct & posted with an ulterior motive - like so much is these days!

I do realise that in this day and age it is very difficult to find reliable sources of correct info!

Yes basically impossible to find reliable sources. However city population on wikipedia is probably as accurate as you will find anywhere. The pollution data mostly is coming from private and non-profit sources. You can use the world map option in the airvisual app over time, if you watch it daily for a year it really paints the picture. Or use the history feature on the aqicn website and compare cities. 

 

I think the point still hold true. Bangkok air is certainly polluted, and very unhealthy most of the year. However for a city it's size in Asia, it is probably the 5th or 6th best option, after Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Seoul and maybe Ho Chi Minh. Out of 45 mega-cities in the world with similar populations, about half (mostly the asian ones) are worse and half are better. 

 

Also there are hundreds of much smaller cities in the world with much worse air pollution than Bangkok. 

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While out and about today from noon to about 3pm, my SNDWY pm2.5 was registering between 80-100, which is international AQI of 165-175.  Some folks were wearing masks today, but not that many.

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16 hours ago, Misty said:

While out and about today from noon to about 3pm, my SNDWY pm2.5 was registering between 80-100, which is international AQI of 165-175.  Some folks were wearing masks today, but not that many.

 

More of the same today:

 

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Just went out to run a few errands around Thong Lor.

absolutely horrible air today, felt like sh*t after a half an hour and had to go home. I don’t remember it ever being as bad as it was today. 

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Issue here relating to fitness centers/gyms in central BKK:

 

My wife is an avid runner normally in our local park, but with the outdoors air the way it is right now, she hasn't been running after work, and the same poor air quality conditions are likely to persist for at least the remainder of this month.

 

So... anyone know if there are any fitness centers/gyms in BKK that have installed HEPA filters/purifiers indoors to allow exercise without breathing in loads of airborne gunk???

 

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4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Issue here relating to fitness centers/gyms in central BKK:

 

My wife is an avid runner normally in our local park, but with the outdoors air the way it is right now, she hasn't been running after work, and the same poor air quality conditions are likely to persist for at least the remainder of this month.

 

So... anyone know if there are any fitness centers/gyms in BKK that have installed HEPA filters/purifiers indoors to allow exercise without breathing in loads of airborne gunk???

 

Maybe someone else knows of one ( a great marketing opportunity)’ but not my gym unfortunately. It has fans circulating outside air in. The badminton courts were bad, registered 90+ the last time I was there. I imagine the rock climbing area was similar. The air conditioned area was 70ish.

 

Our solution was to invest in our own aerobic equipment and install it in a small room that used to be maid s quarters.  The spinning bike was especially reasonable in price. Air quality in that room is very good. I can workout to triathalon videos while watching news or a movie.  Not ideal, but better than sucking in Bangkok a toxic air during the smog season.

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38 minutes ago, Misty said:

Our solution was to invest in our own aerobic equipment and install it in a small room that used to be maid s quarters.  The spinning bike was especially reasonable in price. Air quality in that room is very good. I can workout to triathalon videos while watching news or a movie.  Not ideal, but better than sucking in Bangkok a toxic air during the smog season.

 

Yup, that's the kind of approach I've taken for me. I prefer bicycling, but these days, won't do it outside in BKK for air pollution and safety reasons. So instead, I got a trainer stand attachment for my 10-speed road bike that's currently located in our living room, and I can ride stationary and watch TV or listen to music, etc etc. all while breathing air purifier cleaned air.

 

However, in my wife's case, that's a bit more complicated as she really prefer to run, and that's not something she can really do indoors in our clean air home, I guess, unless we were to buy a treadmill. And I'm not sure how she'd take to that version of running.

 

You'd think, somewhere, some gym mindful of health and fitness concerns would install air purifiers at least in some indoor areas. But at the same time, the purifier units are not cheap and the HEPA filters can be expensive and obviously need to be maintained and changed. So that's perhaps why it either doesn't happen or doesn't happen much.

 

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On 1/18/2020 at 10:17 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Yup, that's the kind of approach I've taken for me. I prefer bicycling, but these days, won't do it outside in BKK for air pollution and safety reasons. So instead, I got a trainer stand attachment for my 10-speed road bike that's currently located in our living room, and I can ride stationary and watch TV or listen to music, etc etc. all while breathing air purifier cleaned air.

 

However, in my wife's case, that's a bit more complicated as she really prefer to run, and that's not something she can really do indoors in our clean air home, I guess, unless we were to buy a treadmill. And I'm not sure how she'd take to that version of running.

 

You'd think, somewhere, some gym mindful of health and fitness concerns would install air purifiers at least in some indoor areas. But at the same time, the purifier units are not cheap and the HEPA filters can be expensive and obviously need to be maintained and changed. So that's perhaps why it either doesn't happen or doesn't happen much.

 

Yes, my husband uses a triathlon trainer on his bike indoors too.

 

We're both runners too.   I used to think running on an indoor treadmill was tedious, but given the Bangkok air quality at times, we invested in a treadmill and it's gotten a lot of use.  The Coach Troy Jacobson "Runerval" treadmill series of videos help - as do his "Spinerval" videos for cycling.

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On 1/18/2020 at 9:34 PM, Misty said:

The spinning bike was especially reasonable in price.

Care to share more details about that spinning bike? Can you get your heart rate above 140 with it? Where did you get it from and for how much if you don't mind me asking?

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2 hours ago, edwardandtubs said:

Care to share more details about that spinning bike? Can you get your heart rate above 140 with it? Where did you get it from and for how much if you don't mind me asking?

Yes, doing interval workouts my heart rate gets above 150 - trying to keep pedal speed between 80-120 RPM, depending on the resistance settings. (I put a cheap Cateye bicycle computer on it to track pedal speed.)

 

The spinning bike came free with the treadmill which we purchased around 15 years ago.  I think the list price for the bike alone was about 1/5 of the treadmill.  Not sure the name of the fitness shop (husband bought it) but I think it was on Thonglor and has closed since then.  You could probably find them at Central or Emporium sports centers, or these days maybe even Lazada.

 

Spinning bikes are mechanical only, so there's no electronics to mess them up. Ours has needed no maintenance, whereas we've had the treadmill serviced a couple of times over the years.

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Has anyone replaced Mi 2S filters?

 

I see the non brand filters on Lazada are over 60% cheaper than the original.

 

Are they ok?

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