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13 hours ago, Pravda said:

 

I noticed the same thing and I think it's simply that people don't care. Lady year it was "new" news... Perhaps even a fashion statement 🙄

I suspect they've caught on to the fact that indoor air is mostly as bad as outdoor so the mask doesn't make much difference.  Yes there are exceptions but most locals work or study in unfiltered spaces and they cannot afford a home air purifier so they're breathing bad air 24/7 anyway.  

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17 minutes ago, TerraplaneGuy said:

I suspect they've caught on to the fact that indoor air is mostly as bad as outdoor so the mask doesn't make much difference.  Yes there are exceptions but most locals work or study in unfiltered spaces and they cannot afford a home air purifier so they're breathing bad air 24/7 anyway.  

Most people are not that analytical. Health scares are driven by the media and it looks like for some reason the Thai media is not giving the pollution much attention this time around.

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1 hour ago, Misty said:

Was walking on Sukhumvit between 2-3pm this afternoon.  My handheld SNDWAY read 100+ PM2.5, which is an AQI of about 175.  But very few people were wearing masks. 

 

Last year at this time I remember my Thai friends following AQI on Line and all wearing masks. What's different this year?

 

Could be that the bad air season for BKK has really just started lately...and it takes some local folks a while to catch on... But if the air stays in the coming days/weeks like it has been today, I think you'll see more mask wearers outside.

 

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12 hours ago, edwardandtubs said:

Most people are not that analytical. Health scares are driven by the media and it looks like for some reason the Thai media is not giving the pollution much attention this time around.

Fair enough although some of the Thais I know have learned a lot in the last year or so about this.   As for the media, I suspect it's just not news anymore.  The Thai language media is likely bowing to pressure from the government which obviously wants to downplay it.  But even the BKK Post is giving it slim coverage.  I think mostly there just isn't anything new to report.  We can all see the smog and check the AQ sites and what is the media going to tell us that we don't already know?  I think many locals don't want to know more about it, they don't have any good options to avoid it.  

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22 hours ago, Moonlover said:

Confusingly this comment about Bangkok air quality appears in the Issan local forum.

 

Well I'm happy to report that right now where we live in the north east of Issan the AQI is 55 and the air is sweet and clear. I can live with that thank you.

 

By the way @bwpage3, air cons do not suck in air from the outside.

Image if Thailand turns into the next Shang-Hai and the air is never clear anywhere.

 

From Richard Barrows photos, this is not an isolated incident what so ever.

 

No clean air and no water.

 

With the inability of the govt to solve environmental problems, this could keep getting worse and worse and worse

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We will move to Europe if it doesn't stop soon....

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On 1/9/2020 at 2:48 PM, Moonlover said:

Confusingly this comment about Bangkok air quality appears in the Issan local forum.

 

Well I'm happy to report that right now where we live in the north east of Issan the AQI is 55 and the air is sweet and clear. I can live with that thank you.

 

By the way @bwpage3, air cons do not suck in air from the outside.

 

You think an AQI of 55 is "sweet and clear"? Far from it, that's still very polluted. Central London usually has around 20. Other parts of the UK have 10-20 and Scandinavia often has an AQI of under 5. 

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9 minutes ago, Thainess said:

 

You think an AQI of 55 is "sweet and clear"? Far from it, that's still very polluted. Central London usually has around 20. Other parts of the UK have 10-20 and Scandinavia often has an AQI of under 5. 

Not the Central London on planet earth doesn't:

 

"Don't inhale at Marble Arch! Levels of nitrogen dioxide (NO2) are five times the EU norm – the highest in the city. Traffic permitting, quickly cross Cumberland Gate to Speakers' Corner and further into Hyde Park, where levels sink back to a 'permissible' 40 milligrams per cubic meter. Almost as bad: Tower Hill (4.6 times the EU norm) and Marylebone Road (4 times). Also quite bad: the Strand (3.9), Piccadilly Circus (3.8), and Hyde Park Corner (also 3.8), Victoria (3.7) and Knightsbridge (3.5), the dirty trio just south of Hyde Park".

 

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/london-air-quality-pollution-health

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9 minutes ago, saengd said:

Not the Central London on planet earth doesn't:

 

"Don't inhale at Marble Arch! Levels of nitrogen dioxide (NO2) are five times the EU norm – the highest in the city. Traffic permitting, quickly cross Cumberland Gate to Speakers' Corner and further into Hyde Park, where levels sink back to a 'permissible' 40 milligrams per cubic meter. Almost as bad: Tower Hill (4.6 times the EU norm) and Marylebone Road (4 times). Also quite bad: the Strand (3.9), Piccadilly Circus (3.8), and Hyde Park Corner (also 3.8), Victoria (3.7) and Knightsbridge (3.5), the dirty trio just south of Hyde Park".

 

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/london-air-quality-pollution-health

 

As you well know, those are only certain notorious high traffic areas, in most cases junctions right in the centre of London. Of course, there are always a few outliers but for the most part, the majority of London is ALWAYS a lot better than almost anywhere in Thailand in terms of air quality.

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2 minutes ago, Thainess said:

 

As you well know, those are only certain notorious high traffic areas, in most cases junctions right in the centre of London. Of course, there are always a few outliers but for the most part, the majority of London is ALWAYS a lot better than almost anywhere in Thailand in terms of air quality.

You need to do some research on this and look at the facts, start with the map in this article: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/27/pollution-map-reveals-unsafe-air-quality-at-almost-2000-uk-sites

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What a difference a day makes!

 

Yesterday (Friday 10th) at 0650

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Today (Saturday 11th) at 0650

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1 hour ago, Thainess said:

 

You think an AQI of 55 is "sweet and clear"? Far from it, that's still very polluted. Central London usually has around 20. Other parts of the UK have 10-20 and Scandinavia often has an AQI of under 5. 

Oh really, come off it!

 

https://www.ft.com/content/9c2b9d92-a45b-11e8-8ecf-a7ae1beff35b

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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Try finding any city in Asia that doesn't have bad air quality.  You either accept it and deal with it (masks, air purifiers) or move.  There are plenty of other unhealthy things to worry about.

Quite agree. And I wonder how many of those folks who are complaining about the air quality, drink alcohol, smoke and eat a crappy diet.

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