Eighty year old Frenchman pays 50,000 bail for flouting Pattaya beach regulations

[lkv]

40 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

If they broke the rules in France do they think the police would treat them differently?

Yes, I think they would not have taken the "criminal" to the Police station and then ask a friend to extort 50k baht out of him.

[mberbae]

No Sympathy here. It's not as if the ban were enacted 2 days ago.

The 80 year old and his 42,46,48 year old lady certainly were

aware of the lock down in Pattaya as well as all of Thailand.

 

[worgeordie]

5 hours ago, keith101 said:

The sign next to them clearly states 1 year imprisonment or fine not exceeding 100,000 baht or both , so if he paid 50.000 its only half of what he could of had to pay .  

That was bail,..he now has to go to court, 

paid 50,000 Baht bail, but don't get it back....I thought that only happened

if you jump bail.then want 2000 Baht to escort them home,makes you wonder

who are the real criminals.

regards worgeordie

[ukrules]

5 hours ago, keith101 said:

The sign next to them clearly states 1 year imprisonment or fine not exceeding 100,000 baht or both , so if he paid 50.000 its only half of what he could of had to pay .  

Only the judge decides the fine, are the courts open on a day to day basis?

 

[SupermarineS6B]

Just goes to show you what these lot are all about..... An eighty year old man !    Lower than a snakes rectum !  

Edited May 4, 2020 by SupermarineS6B

[BobBKK]

Pi Pim doesn't seem that bright

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

This had left her husband and friends very concerned, she said.

Moral of the story.... 

When you're told to stay away from the beach.... STAY AWAY FROM THE BEACH!!!!

[NightSky]

Edited May 4, 2020 by NightSky

[Venom]

They care so deeply about the old guy. So kind of them to lend a helping hand.???? 

[Rimbuman]

Quite easy for me, I'd ridiculed and laughed at them straight in their faces and refused to pay no matter with a few overnights in the slammer.

[snowgard]

Why his wife not called a lawyer when sit for hours in the police station???

 

[Bundooman]

Wow!  This will do wonders for the Thai tourism plans, once this gets out in the International press: -

80 year old - forced to cough up 50K bail Non-returnable - no receipt!

Thais - 500Baht - returnable?

Extra money to take elderly guy home.

Smacks of rampant corruption and unnecessary intimidation of a very old foreigner, despite him doing something wrong.

What will be done about this?

Nothing, probably.

 

Until the numbers of returning foreigners doesn't materialise!

And even then - nothing!

 

Please remind me of the new Thai slogan - excitedly launched today?

 

[oxforddon]

On very good authority, it seems they were taken to court and paid 100k fine and retrieved passport from Police station. They had multiple warnings over a few days but kept returning once police left.

Edited May 4, 2020 by oxforddon

[Chongalulu]

5 hours ago, keith101 said:

The sign next to them clearly states 1 year imprisonment or fine not exceeding 100,000 baht or both , so if he paid 50.000 its only half of what he could of had to pay .  

'have'.

[Rimbuman]

12 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Moral of the story.... 

When you're told to stay away from the beach.... STAY AWAY FROM THE BEACH!!!!

No intention to insult or ridicule, If they tell you jump in the moat, will you? When will this tyranny end? Have you done any checking and research lately? So many medical professionals, scientists and other experts came out already with technical, sensible information about how spun out of control all the government imposed measures where and are. It is time to look a little closer to what is really going on instead of following the mainstream media/government narrative blindly.

Edited May 4, 2020 by Rimbuman

[Chongalulu]

5 hours ago, Ventenio said:

hello, my friends...I am 75, worked my whole life, i want to relax and SAVE my hard-earned money.....yes, a beach, everything cheap, ok ok

 

few years later.... fine 50,000....   after saving 5 baht every night by walking 2 kms to the market to get fruit for 20 baht instead of 25.  I walked 1000000 kms to save 10,000 baht.  then i go to the beach.... omg.... gone

 

they will get your money.  it will not leave here.  

 

thanks for playing and paying

 

i am curious if this guy has living relatives.  80 and in pattaya.  omg.   more than a few wrong turns...and at 80....your mind might not be good.  hard to read signs well or even remember your name.  

Have you had a test for Alzheimer’s?....you really should.

[bstafford214]

The reporting is not very informative.

What law was broken?

What was the actual charge?

 

Did the police demand the bail money?

 

Why was only one person required to pay bail?

Why was there no receipt?

 

This sounds like something that would occur in a communist country like China.

 

Why were no pictures allowed? A cover-up? Was the wife or wives with the men?

 

Too many questions and this should go viral if true.

[hotchilli]

4 minutes ago, Rimbuman said:

No intention to insult or ridicule, If they tell you jump in the moat, will you? When will this tyranny end? Have you done any checking and research lately? So many medical professionals, scientists and other experts came out already with technical, sensible information about how spun out of control all the government imposed measures where and are. It is time to look a little closer to what is really going on instead of following the mainstream media/government narrative blindly.

I'm not stupid or blind and don't need to do any research...  
If a law is enacted by a country in which I am a guest I have learnt from many years of experience it's best to abide by it.
If the law is right or wrong is of no consequence... it is the law.

No offence intended.

[bstafford214]

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

I'm not stupid or blind and don't need to do any research...  
If a law is enacted by a country in which I am a guest I have learnt from many years of experience it's best to abide by it.
If the law is right or wrong is of no consequence... it is the law.

No offence intended.

I have to agree with you that being in a country as a guest on visa, you need to follow the laws.

 

What I am seeing these days is just stupidity and corruption from the government. Guess I will just

sit back and drink my now legal alcohol and laugh.

[KKr]

5 hours ago, keith101 said:

The sign next to them clearly states 1 year imprisonment or fine not exceeding 100,000 baht or both , so if he paid 50.000 its only half of what he could of had to pay .  

Question is who did he pay to, and why, apparently, the others were not "non-refundable bail fined".
When I paid bail for a friend, I got a receipt and received the money back on court date, when she appeared and the case was dismissed. 
Have to mention in that context that a Volunteer Policeman was very helpful getting the bail paid, even though it was after closing time.
 

[PatchinExPat]

    You know, here is the thing, in most of the world, this same thing happens.

If you come from a country were it doesn't or does not happen often,

well good. You can be a little shocked.

 

You are at best a visitor here, understand what that means. 

Here, as in most of the world, you want to have as few encounters

with police as is possible. 

 

You will want to have as few encounters with government as is possible.

Learn what is allowed, what is tolerated, and how to avoid becoming 

a target for police.

 

To do these things it is advisable to treat Thai people with at least 

minimal respect and try and make a few Thai friends who can help

in this endeavor to avoid police and government.

 

You are ignorant, as a visitor, to tease the cops as to how far you can push a 

situation.

I understand you think the baht you spend here is what keeps

the government going and therefore you deserve something, you don't.

You are also ignorant if you Thailand will change to fit your notions, they won't.

So base your stay here on those 2 facts and decide if it is worth it.

For me, at this time, it is worth the effort to follow laws

and customs the best I can.

[thailand49]

You got to remember like some say you are a guest whatever the rule or law it only applies to us who skin aren't the same color living here if one doesn't know how racist Thais and other Asian country are then this should be a good example if you take a chance and put yourself in a position for something to happen as a guest the price is going to be must different or less say higher.

 

The BIB for the last two months had the majority of their tea money cut, now they actually got to get out of the A/C office and police box and do some actual work like walk the bench and man checkpoint when an opportunity arises a bunch of farangs regardless of age that is pure $$$ signs he got off cheap maybe senior discount?????

Edited May 4, 2020 by thailand49

[bstafford214]

9 minutes ago, PatchinExPat said:

    You know, here is the thing, in most of the world, this same thing happens.

If you come from a country were it doesn't or does not happen often,

well good. You can be a little shocked.

 

You are at best a visitor here, understand what that means. 

Here, as in most of the world, you want to have as few encounters

with police as is possible. 

 

You will want to have as few encounters with government as is possible.

Learn what is allowed, what is tolerated, and how to avoid becoming 

a target for police.

 

To do these things it is advisable to treat Thai people with at least 

minimal respect and try and make a few Thai friends who can help

in this endeavor to avoid police and government.

 

You are ignorant, as a visitor, to tease the cops as to how far you can push a 

situation.

I understand you think the baht you spend here is what keeps

the government going and therefore you deserve something, you don't.

You are also ignorant if you Thailand will change to fit your notions, they won't.

So base your stay here on those 2 facts and decide if it is worth it.

For me, at this time, it is worth the effort to follow laws

and customs the best I can.

Yes, everything is true that you say. This is been bothering me for a long time now and ready to leave.

[spidermike007]

The whole point, is to not let these franchisee creeps scare or intimidate you. I hold my ground with them, push back quite hard, and it genuinely surprises them. I have never in over a decade gotten a strong or hostile reaction from them. Just surprise. Sometimes astonishment. Sometimes they laugh. Most know that we know they are simply franchisees, and NOT law enforcement. Treat them as such. Treat them with the contempt they deserve. I am not nasty with them. I just do not show them much regard or respect. Certainly never any fear. You will be quite surprised, at how often they back down. Most are looking for an easy mark, and expect that with the average foreigner. I have actually found that they tend to defer to us, and I do and say things the average Thai would never dare to do or say. And of course, I would never consider behaving like that with a policeman in the US. I would probably get shot or arrested. Sorry, but I have little tolerance for their games here. 

[Destiny1990]

Weird to pay money to the police without Fully stamped receipt would never do that.. doesn’t seems within the laws,

[Traubert]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The whole point, is to not let these franchisee creeps scare or intimidate you. I hold my ground with them, push back quite hard, and it genuinely surprises them. I have never in over a decade gotten a strong or hostile reaction from them. Just surprise. Sometimes astonishment. Sometimes they laugh. Most know that we know they are simply franchisees, and NOT law enforcement. Treat them as such. Treat them with the contempt they deserve. I am not nasty with them. I just do not show them much regard or respect. Certainly never any fear. You will be quite surprised, at how often they back down. Most are looking for an easy mark, and expect that with the average foreigner. I have actually found that they tend to defer to us, and I do and say things the average Thai would never dare to do or say. And of course, I would never consider behaving like that with a policeman in the US. I would probably get shot or arrested. Sorry, but I have little tolerance for their games here. 

Another copy & paste Mike. Seen it.

 

A very dangerous attitude in my opinion. The only question you should ask a foreign copper is 'how high?'

[PatchinExPat]

6 minutes ago, bstafford214 said:

Yes, everything is true that you say. This is been bothering me for a long time now and ready to leave.

I intend to give it about 2 more years if my health holds out then take a slow boat

back to the USA. If I was younger I might look at other places in Asia, but I am not.

[Abmong]

Police Corruption, selective enforcement of laws and painfully slow, fascist judiciary... Nothing new here.

[mrfill]

37 minutes ago, Rimbuman said:

No intention to insult or ridicule, If they tell you jump in the moat, will you? When will this tyranny end? Have you done any checking and research lately? So many medical professionals, scientists and other experts came out already with technical, sensible information about how spun out of control all the government imposed measures where and are. It is time to look a little closer to what is really going on instead of following the mainstream media/government narrative blindly.

If they tell you not to jump in the moat because it might have crocodiles in, would you jump in because they were being tyrannical?

[cheapcanuck]

That will be 50k Baht they will not see again. Tea money is getting scarse for the cops due to no tourist. Going for the big score in one bust to make up for low tea money these covid19 days.