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You have to make your own risk assessment and it's 0.2% mortality rate. UK government cannot afford another lock down, everybody has a choice, work your job or don't have any money.

Given how they've handled it so far I wouldn't rule out a 2nd outbreak .. 

Still have 15,000 arriving everyday in the UK from all over the world without any restrictions whatsoever....14 day self isolating will be required SOON though..

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On 5/13/2020 at 7:57 PM, tribalfusion001 said:

You have to make your own risk assessment and it's 0.2% mortality rate. UK government cannot afford another lock down, everybody has a choice, work your job or don't have any money.

latest figures are showing 0.5% rate (Oxford) - world wide (and with many countries with substandard healthcare) that could translate to 26 million dead.. 

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-wants-30m-doses-of-coronavirus-vaccine-in-four-months-xqrj8q29d

 

As many as 30 million doses of a Covid-19 vaccine could be made for Britain by September under a deal between Oxford University and the drugmaker Astrazeneca.

Ministers announced the target as they pledged £65.5 million in additional funding for the Oxford vaccine project. A second potential British vaccine, being developed at Imperial College London, will receive £18.5 million.

The Oxford team’s global licensing agreement with Astrazeneca, which is based in Cambridge, would cover the commercialisation and manufacturing of the jab, which still needs to pass safety and efficacy tests.

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belgium is number 1 in the charts for infected per million .uk is 7th

On 5/14/2020 at 7:05 AM, sawadee1947 said:

Following by piling up the dead bodies by mismanagement of BoJo 😕

 

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A Redfield and Wilton Strategies survey has revealed that given a choice between the Prime Minister and Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer to lead, 49 percent want Mr Johnson while only 27 percent would choose the leader of the opposition.

Asked whether individuals had emerged from the crisis better or worse, 41 percent said Mr Johnson had come out better.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1283422/uk-lockdown-end-boris-johnson-coronavirus

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On 5/15/2020 at 11:04 PM, elliss said:

 

 Transfer  asap , i have .

   The writing is on the wall. 

   Expect UK , taxes to rise , and pension  age to be raised to 80 ...

 

If its anything like.oz then soon you will need to provide your death certificate to qualify for the pension.

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34 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

A Redfield and Wilton Strategies survey has revealed that given a choice between the Prime Minister and Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer to lead, 49 percent want Mr Johnson while only 27 percent would choose the leader of the opposition.

Asked whether individuals had emerged from the crisis better or worse, 41 percent said Mr Johnson had come out better.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1283422/uk-lockdown-end-boris-johnson-coronavirus

Truly astonishing - I have tried to find the details of the poll but been unable to do so. I would very much like to know more, because even if I was the least biased person in the country, I would struggle to understand such a result.

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3 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

A Redfield and Wilton Strategies survey has revealed that given a choice between the Prime Minister and Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer to lead, 49 percent want Mr Johnson while only 27 percent would choose the leader of the opposition.

Asked whether individuals had emerged from the crisis better or worse, 41 percent said Mr Johnson had come out better.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1283422/uk-lockdown-end-boris-johnson-coronavirus

 

 Try another survey , you have been ill informed .

   Are you by any chance a brexiteer , nuff said .

 

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5 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

A Redfield and Wilton Strategies survey has revealed that given a choice between the Prime Minister and Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer to lead, 49 percent want Mr Johnson while only 27 percent would choose the leader of the opposition.

Asked whether individuals had emerged from the crisis better or worse, 41 percent said Mr Johnson had come out better.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1283422/uk-lockdown-end-boris-johnson-coronavirus

 

I'm not a big fan of opinion polls; the results depend too much on who and how many are surveyed. But based upon the results of earlier polls and this one, it seems that Johnson's approval is falling, whilst Starmer's is rising.

 

Another survey by Redfield and Wilton conducted at the same time has been ignored by the Express and other Tory media; for the obvious reason.

 

Latest UK Voting Intention May 15:-

"Redfield & Wilton Strategies’ latest voting intention poll finds the Conservative Party’s substantial lead reduced to 12%. A noticeable change since our previous voting intention poll is an increase in overall support for Labour, particularly among those who had voted for Labour in December 2019, indicating that Labour supporters are warming up to their new leader Keir Starmer, who has impressed in his criticism of the Prime Minister at recent PMQs. The full numbers of our voting intention poll from Friday (with changes from May 6 in parentheses) are as follows:

            Conservative 47% (-3)

            Labour 35% (+4)

            Liberal Democrat 9% (+2)

            Scottish National Party 4% (–)

            Plaid Cymru 0% (–)

            Green Party 3% (-2)

            Other 2% (-1)"

 

 

 

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On 5/17/2020 at 2:40 AM, jimmyswale said:

If you believe the whole world has shut down on some conspiratorial whim then you really are away with the fairies and for that to be true it would require many different government of different stripes to be acting together. Madness. 

Unless of course it's only average citizens that view the world in terms of Nations and peoples. And the few that hold power view the world in terms of Corporations and currencies.  Maybe within the highest levels of Governments of all Countries a common goal is shared- Control of people. 

It's interesting the emotional stages people go through when the gap between their core beliefs and reality becomes larger and larger.  Typically 5 stages when dealing with Grief- Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.    

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On 5/18/2020 at 12:32 PM, RuamRudy said:

Truly astonishing - I have tried to find the details of the poll but been unable to do so. I would very much like to know more, because even if I was the least biased person in the country, I would struggle to understand such a result.

labours cloth cap voters who cant think for themselves have mostly died off so they cant win an election unless they import more migrants from poverty stricken east euro countries who want more benefits on the dole..labours wooden leader has all the charisma of joseph goebbells and at election time will fail

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22 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

labours cloth cap voters who cant think for themselves have mostly died off so they cant win an election unless they import more migrants from poverty stricken east euro countries who want more benefits on the dole..labours wooden leader has all the charisma of joseph goebbells and at election time will fail

 

Most of this rubbish is your opinion and so as worthy or worthless as anyone else's.

 

But "unless they import more migrants from poverty stricken east euro countries who want more benefits on the dole" is also factually incorrect in two respects.

 

Firstly, research shows that EU migrants who entered after 2000, most of whom came from Eastern Europe, contribute more in taxes than they take out in benefits (one example).

 

Secondly; to vote in a UK general election, you must:

be registered to vote

be 18 or over on the day of the election (‘polling day’)

be a British, Irish or qualifying Commonwealth citizen

be resident at an address in the UK (or a British citizen living abroad who has been registered to vote in the UK in the last 15 years)

not be legally excluded from voting.

 

The only EU nationals on that list are citizens of the Republic of Ireland, Malta and Cyprus; none of which are in Eastern Europe!

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