Burma Bill Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Great - keep the beer and girlie bars shut, along with the massage parlours!!! Any excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 It shouldn't be beyond the wit of any government to provide a place of shelter better than a shop doorway, and arrange for a bowl of noodles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I know over a dozen people who live in Pattaya who are great, and I see homeless people all over the world. I think there may be more nowadays, because of the virus, but seen lots in Bangkok last year. Only seen a few in Hua Hin, but mostly hard working decent people working all over that city. Same for Jomtien, I have seen plenty of decent hard working people as well. I just hope that Thailand recovers and eventually some tourism returns. It would be nice if they would scrap the visas,but the government is too greedy. Geezer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron jeremy Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 15 hours ago, darksidedog said: Maybe those spreading unjustified hysteria should earn themselves some karma points by trying to help some of these people rather than vilifying them. I have had my hand in my pocket daily for some weeks now helping local handouts. I see desperate and hungry people not villains and plague spreaders. Good on you???? But perhaps the Thai government should be helping their citizens, and not relying on foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relocated Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 16 hours ago, rooster59 said: Thai media 77kaoded toured Pattaya last night and found many homeless people on the streets. Aren't they on pilgrimage? They seem to be very faithful to Buddhist doctrine. You should be stripped of any material possession and live like a beggar without stepping on ants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Sold your house in your home country before coming to Thailand - take note 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Sold your house in your home country before coming to Thailand - take note Well thanks for reminding me of that fact... mind you, it could have been filled with squatters or those delinquent on rent payment had I not. No chance to move those out in these times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 19 hours ago, darksidedog said: Maybe those spreading unjustified hysteria should earn themselves some karma points by trying to help some of these people rather than vilifying them. I have had my hand in my pocket daily for some weeks now helping local handouts. I see desperate and hungry people not villains and plague spreaders. Well said DSD Thailands pledge of "we leave no-one behind" seems to be patently flawed. No safety net for the un-registered therefore you don't exist minority! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said: Perhaps the cold air from the 27/7 air conditioning leaks under the door.... Point well taken, but he is a bit far from the crack, he needs to get the AC train to bkk, 14 hrs and so cold can hang meat in there...still waiting for my balls to drop 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffyInBkk Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I suggest that Thaivisa owner Alex and the TV team should set up some kind of homeless shelters for the homeless people in Pattaya, some sort of CSR thing, after all I am sure TV should have lots of money now with all the irritating pop up ads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 17 hours ago, Taco said: I am in Pattaya now and I don't see much if any homeless people anywhere and I have a scooter and cruise around often. I have been here for 9 days and have had one person ask me for change. If there any numbers of homeless about they are hiding out from the police that patrol after curfew but it doesn't seem to be an issue.....yet. The folks in the pics are crisis actors to push the agenda! Also that dude in the mozzie tent, if you look close his leg is sticking out, a perfect chance for those mozzies and covid to sneak in!, thus ruining the safety of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT FITZGERSLD Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 this phenomenon happans in many countries. the homeless people, who usually hide somewhere from fear of police and "SECURITYYYY" , are feeling free now to walk around, until the police / security will push them back to their hidings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I think homeless people in Thailand are not on the agenda it goes on more than they want to admit, When you look at these tin shacks that builders and workers use how many poor and destitute people live there? some may think they are better living on the streets more chance of getting some food that stuck in them shanty towns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) There are no homeless here in the village but I still see a huge government effort to feed the locals in my district in Sangkhla Buri. Many village chiefs, including my Poo Yai neighbour, have set up a kitchen staffed with volunteers and tannoy that all can come take food if needed after 10 AM. Surprisingly the first few days he had to make repeated requests to come and take the food to avoid waste. He eventually took to his motorcycle and drove around giving it away. It has improved now as he has reduced the amount and regular people turn up every day. The offer is on till the end of this month. Many that go, including my handicaped brother in law, who everyone knows is part of my family support group, can easily feed themselves but the offer is open to everyone, including me apparently, but I would never show up for that unless I was in dire straights myself. The lack of take-up surprised me as my village has at least 70% migrant workers who must be struggling, although many have returned home weeks ago. I have asked the wife many tiimes how we can help, but her answer is always there is no one in real need here. We do help out by donating ingredients to the volunteers doing the daily cooking. Edited May 17, 2020 by Saltire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelaoffy Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Closing beach sand for access ! The nonsense if Thailand. But this is a country where officialdom is answerable to nobody other than some one in the city that bought their way to the position, certainly not accountable by any democratic means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 22 hours ago, spiekerjozef said: Isn't it the governments job to feed their own citizens... I would say so.....but they prefer to spend billions on a sub which they do not really need....and yankie tanks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 This same situation also came up last month. Almost exactly a month ago in fact (16 April).https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1159966-pattaya-ordered-to-find-shelter-for-homeless/#comments Then, on 23 April, was a story about (3) homeless being tested for the virus. One of whom was on the streets because he couldn't pay for his apartment anymore. Then on 25 April, an article about how Pattaya was going to open a new homeless shelter. Pattaya runs on tourism. Without it a very large portion of it's inhabitants don't have a job, regardless of whether they are a DJ or a janitor. The longer the shut down lasts, the more people that will end up out on the streets because they can't afford to pay their rent. And as it was just announced that the ban on arriving (passenger) flights is extended until the end of June, there won't be much "tourism" to be had for the next 6 weeks at least. Expect a bunch more people to be homeless come the end of May. And again at the end of June. And again every month until people can start working again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 11:33 AM, rooster59 said: Starving, dirty and desperate people were in business doorways, outside convenience stores and on beach road. This was a deplorable situation, they said, and threatened a rise in crime and spread of the coronavirus after the resort appeared to have things under control. More likely a chance of more starving, desperate and probably dirty people joining them than spreading the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 23 hours ago, Taco said: I am in Pattaya now and I don't see much if any homeless people anywhere and I have a scooter and cruise around often. I have been here for 9 days and have had one person ask me for change. If there any numbers of homeless about they are hiding out from the police that patrol after curfew but it doesn't seem to be an issue.....yet. I see them all of the time, on steps and shop fronts. But many head to Soi Bua Khao, as that is where the commerce takes place. It's looks as if some of them hope to pick up custom on Bua Khao. Most unsavoury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 If I were them I would have returned to the farm weeks ago. Or even to an upcountry forest. The hill tribes are hardly affected by any of this. They continue farming/foraging as usual. Lucky people and smart too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Eindhoven said: I see them all of the time, on steps and shop fronts. But many head to Soi Bua Khao, as that is where the commerce takes place. It's looks as if some of them hope to pick up custom on Bua Khao. Most unsavoury. I wasn't 2 minutes out of the house and there was one under the railway bridge by the road. So I am with you, and with the beach closed I would expect, were I permitted to, to see many at night-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, drbeach said: If I were them I would have returned to the farm weeks ago. Or even to an upcountry forest. The hill tribes are hardly affected by any of this. They continue farming/foraging as usual. Lucky people and smart too. How would they have done that? Apart from that, do you think that they all have farms? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, drbeach said: If I were them I would have returned to the farm weeks ago. Or even to an upcountry forest. The hill tribes are hardly affected by any of this. They continue farming/foraging as usual. Lucky people and smart too. Return to what farm where? Why assume that the entire low income workers in Pattaya are not originally from the general area? Life long multi generational urban dwellers decamping to a forest? IMO people such as the person with his mozzie tent and hand cart tool of trade is safer where he is if his need is genuine. "Available for Work" without the signage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I am constantly dismayed by the convoluted and contradictory attitude displayed in some common opinions that the global reaction to the current situation has elicited. To the point that even expressions of humanitarian concerns are tainted by an underlying selfish stance. The variations are seemingly endless but I will attempt to illustrate. " Oh yes, tragic situation. But if they had got a better education blah blah etc they would not be in this situation. I came from a poor family and look at me ! " Ok, well and good for you if you come from a country that provides a good educational system free,or heavily subsidized, or has realistic student loans. Thailand does not effectively offer that in real terms. Not your problem. But it enables critics to assume high horse positions of opinion. Yet how many of these same critics skulk through an existence in Thailand to eke out petty pensions or savings while pretending a superiority not identifiable "back home"? Again IMO even worse are those that come to TVF to offer negative opinion from outside Thailand as if in some obsessive need to justify their own failures on a past attempt at life in Thailand. Are such people who have the time and need to revisit failure able to say they have success and happiness where they are now? Talk to your hands ! There is no country , to my knowledge, that does not have, has not had, will not continue to have social, economic, political issues regardless of the basis of whatever "systems" are in place. In the attempt to create global socialist financial dependency via the institution of "corporate" control the grand mistake of that has been in the ignorant ignorance of the natural process of nature. As far as we know ( despite assertations of religious or alien intervention) humanity has evolved into an animal so forkin arrogant that it objects and denies a massive failure of nurturing and protecting it's own species. Discrimination based on almost anything to defend........wealth=power=? The world now stands on a wobbly rock of financial capacity to demonstrate validity in the face of an interference called Covid -19. Are bets on or off as to outcome? The poor already know the meaning of survival. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Dye Samurai Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 12:53 AM, spiekerjozef said: Isn't it the governments job to feed their own citizens... I dont mean to make light of the plight of the Pattaya homeless but it would seem to me with all of the food lines everyday that it might be easier than ever for somebody with no money to get food? I want to be clear that I am totally guessing, speculating and basically not knowledgeable of how many food lines there are and how the food is distributed. If I am off base and somebody that is familiar of these details would share their knowledge I would appreciate it. I have made my contributions to the people of Pattaya on a more "acute" level shall we say...but I would like to know more about the charitable food distributions and most specifically if people are being turned away hungry on a mass level from the food lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said: but I would like to know more about the charitable food distributions and most specifically if people are being turned away hungry on a mass level from the food lines. Some won't know there are food donations which require queuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybcool Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I could be wrong about this but I think Thais are very generous when it comes to food. I don't think anyone has to starve in Pattaya. But it must get old living outdoors on the street so it still sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Silly question perhaps, but if they are worried the homeless people will catch COVID-19, why don't they just test them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 21 hours ago, JeffyInBkk said: I suggest that Thaivisa owner Alex and the TV team should set up some kind of homeless shelters for the homeless people in Pattaya, some sort of CSR thing, after all I am sure TV should have lots of money now with all the irritating pop up ads. 100% agree about the ads - I have made it a policy NOT to buy anything in those ads....so irritating. Enough ads at the sides anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 2:58 PM, PETERTHEEATER said: Perhaps the cold air from the 27/7 air conditioning leaks under the door.... You get a nice cool waft of air frequently as the doors open and close, although the bing-bong is disturbing. Hard part is moving the soi dogs away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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