hotchilli Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 18 hours ago, webfact said: Bars allowed to open sooner if case count stays low I guess with mass transit trains/buses etc opening with people returning to work bars etc will be the next logical step if infections remain low. While malls and department stores can maintain social distancing the issues is with bars that's impossible. But if it works on mass transport with no ill-affects then bars & schools will be next in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy52 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I'm not sure how many bars will be able to reopen, after months of having no income, but still having to pay rent and other overheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 The reason the cases stay under 10 is because they then only need 1 person to count The social distancing was difficult when 10 people were trying to count to 100 in the same room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said: What's the point? There has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus so locking down indefinitely waiting for a miracle is an exercise in futility UK is predicting vaccine by September. Already vaccinated 500. Large scale production in progress now. Initially enough doses to vaccinate 30 million Brits and many more in 3rd world countries. I'll be returning to the UK for my vaccination as soon as its available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seancbk Posted May 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2020 17 hours ago, time2093 said: So you think the numbers will rise because the bars will be opened soon and not from the thousands of people who are packed like sardines using the overcrowded BTS and MRT trains everyday in Bangkok or JJ market on the weekends?....lets blame the bars, why not. On the BTS people are wearing masks. In bars they will not be. Just talking causes very fine droplets of saliva (loaded with virus if you are carrying it) and those micro droplets float around in the air for a surprising amount of time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said: General policy for the UK, US and Thailand is to test those entering hospital with symptoms. Same same. The US and UK have far more cases. All three countries are under reporting. I don't know why Thailand has been less affected than other countries (although I have my suspicions) but the fact remains that they have got a grip of the pandemic far more easily than other countries. In one breath you say they are under reporting. In the next you state confidence. Are you then assuming each and every country is under reporting the the EXACT SAME DEGREE? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said: UK is predicting vaccine by September. Already vaccinated 500. Large scale production in progress now. Initially enough doses to vaccinate 30 million Brits and many more in 3rd world countries. I'll be returning to the UK for my vaccination as soon as its available. The latest from Oxford is that the vaccine doesn't stop you getting infected However it stops you from getting severe symptoms & pneumonia. To be fair that sounds good enough, but still a lot of testing to do and problems can occur along the way Edited May 20, 2020 by Canuck1966 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, Fex Bluse said: In one breath you say they are under reporting. In the next you state confidence. Are you then assuming each and every country is under reporting the the EXACT SAME DEGREE? Bottom line is in Thailand very few in hospital, none in my province, and very few dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phkauf Posted May 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2020 On another similar thread, I posited that the Gov't/Army is using this shutdown as an opportunity to clean up the bar industry to their liking. The conservative Thais (supporters of this gov't for the most part) have always been appalled at the notorious bar scene but didn't have the ammunition to fight those profiting from it. They would love to see the girl/boy bar districts closed for good - it does not fit with "their" image for Thailand. The typical Thai bars and clubs are probably fine in their minds, but this just gives the opportunity to starve the bars they dislike so they won't reopen. Also pressure the landlords to find other suitable (in their mind) tenants. I don't agree with what they are trying to accomplish, but I think this is what they are trying to do. They've never had an opportunity like this before and I think they'll take advantage as much as they can. And for all those going to comment about all the tourists that want this experience, I think the Gov't would say they're happy for them not to come. The image of Thailand is so important to them as they constantly mention when charging someone with a crime. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Canuck1966 said: The latest from Oxford is that the vaccine doesn't stop you getting infected However it stops you from getting severe symptoms & pneumonia. To be fair that sounds good enough, but still a lot of testing to do and problems can occur along the way That report didn't come from the Oxford group, it came from the US and a completely unverified source. Sour grapes? Oxford University have completely debunked the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, katatonic said: Dozens of bars in Bang Tao. Huge beach and lots of hotels. No more muslim than most of the rest of Phuket. I think, if you look at the details, that most of the Bang Tao cases were connected to a religious school there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said: Doesn't matter what people do if Thailand doesn't open its borders. If no one has it, no one can catch it. Hasn't been a single case in Pattaya for a month, none in hospital. It's gone. Wait until they open the gates and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Almer said: Wait until they open the gates and see what happens Agree completely. Foreign tourists return and its a different ball game. I'll probably go back into self isolation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 bars are the mainstay of tourism and it will help tourism the sooner the bars are opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Phil McCaverty said: Agree completely. Foreign tourists return and its a different ball game. I'll probably go back into self isolation! 1 minute ago, Phil McCaverty said: Agree completely. Foreign tourists return and its a different ball game. I'll probably go back into self isolation! It is no good relying on a temp check at arrival, there are no reported cases in Pattaya because nobody is being tested, i am in the sticks in Issan and nobody know's anybody who has or had but its the asymmetric souls that are the problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said: Agree completely. Foreign tourists return and its a different ball game. I'll probably go back into self isolation! Are you not worried about the most dangerous roads in the world, terrible elf and safety, dengue fever, botulism, salmonella, e coli etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, sahibji said: bars are the mainstay of tourism and it will help tourism the sooner the bars are opened. But there are no tourists, they cant get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Be default living in Thailand is pretty dangerous You add hundreds of new ways to die, compared to the west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil McCaverty Posted May 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Almer said: there are no reported cases in Pattaya because nobody is being tested, Untrue. Anyone who rocks up at hospital with symptoms is tested. Also had a mobile testing station for weeks which was discontinued as they didn't find any positives. Where are the bodies? Where are the overflowing hospitals? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 18 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said: June 1st. 2 weeks. I hope so, but my bet is still on 15th June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said: Untrue. Anyone who rocks up at hospital with symptoms is tested. Also had a mobile testing station for weeks which was discontinued as they didn't find any positives. Where are the bodies? Where are the overflowing hospitals? The bodies are burnt and there would not be overflowing hospitals The hospitals are empty in the UK too as people are petrified to go there..... for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Phil McCaverty said: Untrue. Anyone who rocks up at hospital with symptoms is tested. Also had a mobile testing station for weeks which was discontinued as they didn't find any positives. Where are the bodies? Where are the overflowing hospitals? As i posted earlier nobody seems to know anybody who knows anybody who has had or has. The test will come in 10 days time with the malls and mass transport on the move, have we living here been spared the worst or is the worst yet to come with reopening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 17 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said: It didn't mention girly bars, I doubt they will open yet. It will be Thai bars and maybe sports bar. That's fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said: Are you not worried about the most dangerous roads in the world, terrible elf and safety, dengue fever, botulism, salmonella, e coli etc etc I'm ashamed to admit that I'm a net contributor to the dangerous roads. All my friends and family refuse to let me drive now. My wife does all the driving. Health and safety yes. I've been trying to find a competent electrician for a year now since my original electrician botched the rewire. Dengue fever? I'm very lucky that mossies don't seem to like me. I never get bitten. Botulism,salmonella and e coli? I've suffered far less from gastric infections in Thailand than I ever did in the UK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCaverty Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, mikosan said: I hope so, but my bet is still on 15th June. Even money I reckon but I'm always the optimist........and desperate (I haven't had a drink since mid March). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said: The bodies are burnt and there would not be overflowing hospitals 5555 You cannot seriously believe that the government here could get away with cremating thousands of additional citizens without anybody getting to know about it............... Edited May 20, 2020 by Mattd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotandsticky Posted May 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said: Untrue. Anyone who rocks up at hospital with symptoms is tested. Also had a mobile testing station for weeks which was discontinued as they didn't find any positives. Where are the bodies? Where are the overflowing hospitals? Stop it........................... don't go p!ssing on his conspiracy theory.... ???? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 15 hours ago, CNXexpat said: Not sure if it´s possible for the old farang pensioners to get a herd immunity. I guess most of them will not survive an infection. Also many will get a financial problem if they are infected because they have no health insurance. As I understand it, any treatment for COVID-19 infection is free, the bills, even at private hospitals, being paid for by the government. Including for farangs. Pretty sure I read that a number of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, sahibji said: bars are the mainstay of tourism and it will help tourism the sooner the bars are opened. How will it help tourism if there are no tourists allowed into the Kingdom? If bars open, great, yet not sure if enough patrons here in Pattaya to fill more than a handful at this time, even with stools 2 meters apart. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mattd said: 5555 You cannot seriously believe that the government here could get away with cremating thousands of additional citizens without anybody getting to know about it............... If a person isn't tested in Thailand then they aren't tested after death Do you not understand this basic principle? Cause of death could easily be put down to lung infection, pneumonia etc Thais treat this like the black plague and wouldn't want anybody to think they had it or a relative of theirs You obviously have zero clue about Thai culture Most people in the boonies don't even know how this virus kills them and they would definitely never question a doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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