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On ‎5‎/‎22‎/‎2020 at 7:09 PM, Loiner said:

 

 

Only if they buy 100% tariffed EUSSR goods. Buy UK products or imported FTA from other countries and there’s no tariff. 

You would either pay high taxes for the ‘privilege’ of choosing EU products, or pay less for alternative sources. No problem with that, it’s worked in Thailand for years. 

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5 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

No matter how many times you play around with the numbers, the fact remains that under electoral rules the UK voted to leave the EU, and later voted in a Tory government that promised to implement Brexit; by a landslide. 

None of your jiggery pokery will change these facts, so you'd better learn to live with it for the sake of your own sanity 😉

 Not denying any of that, apart from your last phrase. Just pointing out that since 2016 a large section of Leave voters have come to realise that they had the wool well and truly pulled over their eyes.

 

BTW, if people didn't object to the voting system and simply learned to live with it, then we would have had none of the reforms over the last 800 years and only male landowners would have the franchise.

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1 hour ago, Loiner said:

No problem with banning our boats from EU waters. There are precious few left of them now. When the full quota in UK waters is kept solely for UK boats they will all be more than busy enough. 

If the EU consumers reduce their consumption due to their own shellfish tariffs, there will be a surplus available for the UK markets. It’s about time fish and shellfish were reduced in price. 

 Yet again you show your compete lack of knowledge on the subject; despite my providing links for you to improve upon that lack.

 

"In the UK, we export most of the seafood we catch in our waters. This is because foreign seafood markets greatly value UK species, such as langoustine, crab and mackerel, while domestic consumers focus their purchases on a smaller range of species, such as cod, salmon and haddock....

Mixed seafood for processing was the main export to the Irish Republic, Germany and the Netherlands. High value shellfish like langoustine, crab and scallops and exported to the French, Spanish and Italian markets." Source

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54 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 Yet again you show your compete lack of knowledge on the subject; despite my providing links for you to improve upon that lack.

 

"In the UK, we export most of the seafood we catch in our waters. This is because foreign seafood markets greatly value UK species, such as langoustine, crab and mackerel, while domestic consumers focus their purchases on a smaller range of species, such as cod, salmon and haddock....

Mixed seafood for processing was the main export to the Irish Republic, Germany and the Netherlands. High value shellfish like langoustine, crab and scallops and exported to the French, Spanish and Italian markets." Source

And you think they will stop buying our seafood, even with tariffs? Simple fact is that if there is no deal consumers will end up paying more on some product categories.

 

 

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1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

Not denying any of that, apart from your last phrase. Just pointing out that since 2016 a large section of Leave voters have come to realise that they had the wool well and truly pulled over their eyes.

The result of the last General Election suggests you are wrong. 

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4 hours ago, Loiner said:

Yes, your whingers whiners and moaners who would not accept the result of the proper referendum must be ignored. No matter how many spurious percentages you wish to spout, it’s first past the post. You all knew about it and all lost. 

Its very telling that the referendum was a simple choice, based on a total figure of the whole UK.  Cameron promised that the winning side must be 50% of valid votes, plus one vote or more. That’s all!

They chose not to count by the usual constituencies, as they probably calculated that method would return a massive Leave result. (About 406 Leave to 242 Remain) So it was all stacked in favour of Remain but you still lost. That’s why Remainers must be ignored. 

The scorn and contempt Cameron held the electorate in also influenced the vote.

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1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

I'm not very up to speed on European politics, but haven't the UK and Germany both been essentially forced to subsidize the stupidity of other countries, for the sake of the EU as a whole? If true, sounds like a pretty raw deal and reason to bail on the EU to me.

If anything, the opposite is true. The Euro has hugely subsidized the German economy. And on a per capita basis, UK citizens are far from being the biggest net  contributors to EU coffers.

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2 hours ago, jordanmarcinkus said:

If anything, the opposite is true. The Euro has hugely subsidized the German economy. And on a per capita basis, UK citizens are far from being the biggest net  contributors to EU coffers.

Glad the euro has. subsidised the German economy,now thry,'ll have to pass the hat round the remaining countries.

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On 5/22/2020 at 7:09 PM, Loiner said:

 

 

Only if they buy 100% tariffed EUSSR goods. Buy UK products or imported FTA from other countries and there’s no tariff. 

You would either pay high taxes for the ‘privilege’ of choosing EU products, or pay less for alternative sources. No problem with that, it’s worked in Thailand for years. 

Spoken like someone with absolutely no idea about Thailand’s system and how well it hasn’t ‘worked’, unless you are one of the elites here who’ve essentially designed the system for their own benefit. 

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15 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Up to you

Yes, it’s all up to us now. We had a referendum for us to decide if we wanted it up to us, or up to the EU.

 

That’s what it was, and still is, all about. The EU and Remainers lost, but still have not worked that out. 

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1 hour ago, samran said:

Spoken like someone with absolutely no idea about Thailand’s system and how well it hasn’t ‘worked’, unless you are one of the elites here who’ve essentially designed the system for their own benefit. 

Well your comment confirms the understanding of Thailand’s system. Did you think it was a secret only you knew about? The choice is there - locally produced, employment providing, economy supporting products, or expensive tariffed imports. All works OK. 

Must be tough if you’re not an elite, but feel entitled to a Benz. Can’t even afford an old Holden?

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1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Well your comment confirms the understanding of Thailand’s system. Did you think it was a secret only you knew about? The choice is there - locally produced, employment providing, economy supporting products, or expensive tariffed imports. All works OK. 

Must be tough if you’re not an elite, but feel entitled to a Benz. Can’t even afford an old Holden?

Fancy that - the ‘men of the people’ advocating a system which entrenches wealth in the hand of the few? 
 

Works okay for sure.

 

As for not affording a Benz. Maybe, maybe not. But I can think better ways of spending our money saved when the housing, pensions, health and schooling are taken care of for us. 

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