Popular Post car720 Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 5:18 PM, RuamRudy said: Well go on then, help us understand the tangible benefits. How will our lives improve as a result of brexit, and why, on the cusp of a crisis, is it wise to strike out alone? Because the EU has been a fizzer from the onset. Even the Germans are now talking of bailing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannork Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I've got some bad news for you ????. I'm sorry to tell you Jonny but the bad news is on you, it's just you don't realise it yet. Talk to me in another year if the corona doesn't get us and see how old Blighty is doing then. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, bannork said: I'm sorry to tell you Jonny but the bad news is on you, it's just you don't realise it yet. Talk to me in another year if the corona doesn't get us and see how old Blighty is doing then. You're a little ray of sunshine aren't you ????. Take my word for it, Britain will be fine, prosper in fact. It's a big world out there outside the EU's clutches. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, bannork said: I'm sorry to tell you Jonny but the bad news is on you, it's just you don't realise it yet. Talk to me in another year if the corona doesn't get us and see how old Blighty is doing then. As if continued EU membership would or could save us from corony. They are already trying to squeeze the UK for more cash to support their failed project and euroscroungers. At each step it’s increasingly obvious we are one of their favourite cash cows. Best out of it altogether. This time next year we will be comparative millionaires, compared to what we would have been if still in the EU. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, Loiner said: As if continued EU membership would or could save us from corony. They are already trying to squeeze the UK for more cash to support their failed project and euroscroungers. At each step it’s increasingly obvious we are one of their favourite cash cows. Best out of it altogether. This time next year we will be comparative millionaires, compared to what we would have been if still in the EU. Time will tell gentlemen, time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 7by7 Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 I see that Johnson's promise not to sell out Northern Ireland has, like so many of his promises, come to naught. Brexit: Gove confirms plans for checks on goods crossing Irish Sea Quote The government has confirmed for the first time that there will be Brexit checks on animals and food goods entering Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK from next January. The announcement, detailed in a 23-page document released by the government on Wednesday, comes months after Boris Johnson pledged there would be no checks on trade crossing the Irish Sea – telling businesses that if anyone asked them to fill in new paperwork, they could “throw it in the bin” I'm not a great believer in opinion polls, but others here are and have used the regular YouGov poll to show how popular Johnson is. It's been a week since Starmer's approval rating overtook Johnson's. I wonder how big the gap will be in the next one. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 12:20 PM, RichardColeman said: Excellent , 500% import tax on Chinese goods please, to be paid by the exporter in China prior to shipping Oh dear...i guess this is the kind of economic (il)literacy which gets you to brexit. That and a bit of flag waving and chest thumping I guess. As someone else has already said, that’s not how tariffs work. Never mind, the vote is in and the brexiters have moved on. Interesting to note though - not content with the EU, they’ve found a new bogey man in China. Quelle Suprise. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Loiner Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, samran said: Oh dear...i guess this is the kind of economic (il)literacy which gets you to brexit. That and a bit of flag waving and chest thumping I guess. As someone else has already said, that’s not how tariffs work. Never mind, the vote is in and the brexiters have moved on. Interesting to note though - not content with the EU, they’ve found a new bogey man in China. Quelle Suprise. I’d add the Aussies and Thais to the bogey man list. They’re always ilirtat too, the edjumacated ones quoting boganomics ad nauseam. Chips on shoulders I guess. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Loiner said: I’d add the Aussies and Thais to the bogey man list. They’re always ilirtat too, the edjumacated ones quoting boganomics ad nauseam. Chips on shoulders I guess. Economics 101. Do not screw up your biggest market. Still not to worry. Sunlight uplands ahead re pleat with unicorns and angels waving the union flag. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Loiner said: I’d add the Aussies and Thais to the bogey man list. They’re always ilirtat too, the edjumacated ones quoting boganomics ad nauseam. Chips on shoulders I guess. Obviously you are free to do what you want. Edumaculating all over yourself while humming ‘Rule Britannia’ seems to be the go for some... Just don’t come grovelling to us for a FTA in your brave new world when the music stops! (On the off chance you are looking new song though, Australian kids band ‘the wiggles’ might suit. Just change the title from ‘big red car’ to ‘big red bus’ given that’s where you get your economics lessons’ Edited May 21, 2020 by samran 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 49 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Economics 101. Do not screw up your biggest market. Still not to worry. Sunlight uplands ahead re pleat with unicorns and angels waving the union flag. ‘They need us more than we need them’ 555 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, samran said: Just don’t come grovelling to us for a FTA in your brave new world when the music stops! Grovelling to where - Oz or Thailand? They’ll both have to join the queue down Downing Street. What’s Scott Morrison going to do as China escalates the trade war? Naughty Aussies. Thailand will do a deal with the devil if it provides more opportunities for trade and corruption, so no worries there. Be brave sweetie, join the brave new world. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, samran said: ‘They need us more than we need them’ 555 Patently obvious from all sides of the EU now, and every day their getting more desperate. 555 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 7:54 AM, RuamRudy said: Try raising your eyes above your hatred for the EU - it's not just the EU but the whole world is expecting a recession unlike any seen in our lifetimes. Is this really the time to be leaving the world's most successful trading partnership on the back of a bucketful of lies and a few ethereal slogans that nobody can tangibly define? The big red bus has a lot to answer for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Loiner said: As if continued EU membership would or could save us from corony. They are already trying to squeeze the UK for more cash to support their failed project and euroscroungers. At each step it’s increasingly obvious we are one of their favourite cash cows. Best out of it altogether. This time next year we will be comparative millionaires, compared to what we would have been if still in the EU. On short term the cv is likely to create a recession that will make it more difficult for UK firms adapt to the new situation (in case there is no strong agreement with the EU). On longer term, the cv crisis has highlighted two issues: - the need for strategic domestic sourcing. Large entities (US, China, EU..) will likely to be able to achieve it, at the expense of smaller entities. - the cv has highlighted the rivalry between The US and China. It suggests that it will not be comfortable to be stuck between a rock and a hard place (I.e. Australia). That will be easier for large entities. It has nothing to do with British people being smart enough or not. It has all to do with size. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 7 hours ago, bannork said: Time will tell gentlemen, time will tell. It certainly will boyo,what about the eus latest one about all the members taking on debt as one?link hard talk was on BBC news 4.30 this morning 21.5.2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingdong Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, candide said: On short term the cv is likely to create a recession that will make it more difficult for UK firms adapt to the new situation (in case there is no strong agreement with the EU). On longer term, the cv crisis has highlighted two issues: - the need for strategic domestic sourcing. Large entities (US, China, EU..) will likely to be able to achieve it, at the expense of smaller entities. - the cv has highlighted the rivalry between The US and China. It suggests that it will not be comfortable to be stuck between a rock and a hard place (I.e. Australia). That will be easier for large entities. It has nothing to do with British people being smart enough or not. It has all to do with size. Do you honestly think they,'ll be an eu in 5 years time?the UK will be able to make its own decisions without being hamstrung by the eu,over 2 million eu residents living and working in uk now,what do,'re it tell you about the conditions in their home countries? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Actually, it's more than 2 million (born in the EU, incl. UK citizen). ???? But let's look at details: - the top country of origin is Poland. They will not be better off outside the EU, and on top of it have a border with Russia - then comes Romania, same same. - then the Irish Republic, for which there is a specific context - then surpringly enough, Germany. I guess they don't come to work in the UK because of high unemployment in their country, - etc... The EU is facing a challenge, it's true. It needs to change. Being freed from the ultra-liberal British influence may help, despite a loss of size. Edited May 21, 2020 by candide 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 2:18 AM, RuamRudy said: Well go on then, help us understand the tangible benefits. How will our lives improve as a result of brexit, and why, on the cusp of a crisis, is it wise to strike out alone? Whose lives? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoYai Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 8:25 AM, JonnyF said: It's never a bad time to leave a corrupt, failing, protectionist racket. Will you be leaving Thailand then? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 6 hours ago, candide said: The EU is facing a challenge, it's true. This could be the understatement of the year. They're up the creek without a paddle. It's so bad that even the ultra leftist rag The Guardian has cottoned on. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/10/coronavirus-crisis-truth-eu-union-financial-rescue History will show that we left at the perfect time. The equivalent of running out of a burning building as it collapses into itself. The Brits leading the way, as normal. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: This could be the understatement of the year. They're up the creek without a paddle. It's so bad that even the ultra leftist rag The Guardian has cottoned on. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/10/coronavirus-crisis-truth-eu-union-financial-rescue History will show that we left at the perfect time. The equivalent of running out of a burning building as it collapses into itself. The Brits leading the way, as normal. Despite Bercow & Co bricking up the exits ???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 6 hours ago, candide said: The EU is facing a challenge, it's true. It needs to change. Being freed from the ultra-liberal British influence may help, despite a loss of size. It won,t help the eus.finances though,still i,m sure the rest of the eus countries will be glad to put their hands on their pockets to remain in the eu,anyone asked their citizens yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, JonnyF said: This could be the understatement of the year. They're up the creek without a paddle. It's so bad that even the ultra leftist rag The Guardian has cottoned on. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/10/coronavirus-crisis-truth-eu-union-financial-rescue History will show that we left at the perfect time. The equivalent of running out of a burning building as it collapses into itself. The Brits leading the way, as normal. When a ship sinks the captain will go down with it,seems through Holland and Germany feel the same way as us,why don,t the eus countries give their citizens a referendum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sungod Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, kingdong said: When a ship sinks the captain will go down with it,seems through Holland and Germany feel the same way as us,why don,t the eus countries give their citizens a referendum? Because they are terrified of the answer, it will be the break up of the EU and they know it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 8:27 AM, car720 said: Little island. Big balls. Rule Brittania! What are you going to rule? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: What are you going to rule? I don't think that the UK has any contingency plans of ruling anybody, it's just the thought of somebody else ruling us that leaves a sour taste in the mouth. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: What are you going to rule? Britannia rules the waves. And all the fishes and fishing rights under them, not the CFP. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 12 hours ago, kingdong said: Do you honestly think they,'ll be an eu in 5 years time?the UK will be able to make its own decisions without being hamstrung by the eu,over 2 million eu residents living and working in uk now,what do,'re it tell you about the conditions in their home countries? 5 years ago, on these very boards, we had some very vociferous (and sorely missed posters) who were even more bullish than you. Sgt Rock, for example, had even identified the sequence in which the EU countries would revolt and the dominoes would fall, all to concluded, if I recall correctly, by late 2018. The reality is that the only people who were correct in their predictions were the remainers. Leavers' triumphalism and vainglory fell somewhat (i.e. fully) short of the mark, and the EU is still standing united while the UK is struggling badly. Here is a much more credible prediction for you - forget any daft notion about the EU not being around in 5 years. The UK will be a relic of history by that time. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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