UK announces new post-Brexit global tariff regime

[candide 8,833]

7 hours ago, Loiner said:

As if continued EU membership would or could save us from corony.

They are already trying to squeeze the UK for more cash to support their failed project and  euroscroungers. At each step it’s increasingly obvious we are one of their favourite cash cows. Best out of it altogether. 

 

This time next year we will be comparative millionaires, compared to what we would have been if still in the EU. 

On short term the cv is likely to create a recession that will make it more difficult for UK firms adapt to the new situation (in case there is no strong agreement with the EU).

 

On longer term, the cv crisis has highlighted two issues:

- the need for strategic domestic sourcing. Large entities (US, China, EU..) will likely to be able to achieve it, at the expense of smaller entities.

- the cv has highlighted the rivalry between The US and China. It suggests that it will not be comfortable to be stuck between a rock and a hard place (I.e. Australia). That will be easier for large entities.

 

It has nothing to do with British people being smart enough or not. It has all to do with size.

[kingdong 3,073]

7 hours ago, bannork said:

Time will tell gentlemen, time will tell.

It certainly will boyo,what about the eus latest one about all the members taking on debt as one?link hard talk was on BBC news 4.30 this morning 21.5.2020

[kingdong 3,073]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

On short term the cv is likely to create a recession that will make it more difficult for UK firms adapt to the new situation (in case there is no strong agreement with the EU).

 

On longer term, the cv crisis has highlighted two issues:

- the need for strategic domestic sourcing. Large entities (US, China, EU..) will likely to be able to achieve it, at the expense of smaller entities.

- the cv has highlighted the rivalry between The US and China. It suggests that it will not be comfortable to be stuck between a rock and a hard place (I.e. Australia). That will be easier for large entities.

 

It has nothing to do with British people being smart enough or not. It has all to do with size.

Do you honestly think they,'ll be an eu in 5 years time?the UK will be able to make its own decisions without being hamstrung by the eu,over 2 million eu residents living and working in uk now,what do,'re it tell you about the conditions in their home countries?

[candide 8,833]

Actually, it's more than 2 million (born in the EU, incl. UK citizen).

But let's look at details: 

- the top country of origin is Poland. They will not be better off outside the EU, and on top of it have a border with Russia

- then comes Romania, same same.

- then the Irish Republic, for which there is a specific context

- then surpringly enough, Germany. I guess they don't come to work in the UK because of high unemployment in their country,

- etc...

 

The EU is facing a challenge, it's true. It needs to change. Being freed from the ultra-liberal British influence may help, despite a loss of size.

Edited May 21 by candide

[Crazy Alex 4,601]

On 5/20/2020 at 2:18 AM, RuamRudy said:

Well go on then, help us understand the tangible benefits. How will our lives improve as a result of brexit, and why, on the cusp of a crisis, is it wise to strike out alone?

Whose lives?

[KhaoYai 2,005]

On 5/20/2020 at 8:25 AM, JonnyF said:

It's never a bad time to leave a corrupt, failing, protectionist racket.

Will you be leaving Thailand then?

[JonnyF 9,004]

6 hours ago, candide said:

The EU is facing a challenge, it's true.

This could be the understatement of the year. They're up the creek without a paddle. It's so bad that even the ultra leftist rag The Guardian has cottoned on.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/10/coronavirus-crisis-truth-eu-union-financial-rescue

 

 

History will show that we left at the perfect time. The equivalent of running out of a burning building as it collapses into itself. The Brits leading the way, as normal.

[evadgib 16,082]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

This could be the understatement of the year. They're up the creek without a paddle. It's so bad that even the ultra leftist rag The Guardian has cottoned on.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/10/coronavirus-crisis-truth-eu-union-financial-rescue

 

 

History will show that we left at the perfect time. The equivalent of running out of a burning building as it collapses into itself. The Brits leading the way, as normal.

Despite Bercow & Co bricking up the exits

[kingdong 3,073]

6 hours ago, candide said:

 

 

The EU is facing a challenge, it's true. It needs to change. Being freed from the ultra-liberal British influence may help, despite a loss of size.

It won,t help the eus.finances though,still i,m sure the rest of the eus countries will be glad to put their hands on their pockets to remain in the eu,anyone asked their citizens yet.

[kingdong 3,073]

28 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

This could be the understatement of the year. They're up the creek without a paddle. It's so bad that even the ultra leftist rag The Guardian has cottoned on.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/10/coronavirus-crisis-truth-eu-union-financial-rescue

 

 

History will show that we left at the perfect time. The equivalent of running out of a burning building as it collapses into itself. The Brits leading the way, as normal.

When a ship sinks the captain will go down with it,seems through Holland and Germany feel the same way as us,why don,t the eus countries give their citizens a referendum?

[sungod 3,507]

30 minutes ago, kingdong said:

When a ship sinks the captain will go down with it,seems through Holland and Germany feel the same way as us,why don,t the eus countries give their citizens a referendum?

Because they are terrified of the answer, it will be the break up of the EU and they know it.

[FritsSikkink 10,387]

On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2020 at 8:27 AM, car720 said:

Little island.

Big balls.

Rule Brittania!

What are you going to rule?

[vogie 21,290]

42 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

What are you going to rule?

I don't think that the UK has any contingency plans of ruling anybody, it's just the thought of somebody else ruling us that leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

[Loiner 7,049]

3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

What are you going to rule?

Britannia rules the waves.  

And all the fishes and fishing rights under them, not the CFP. 

[RuamRudy 9,326]

12 hours ago, kingdong said:

Do you honestly think they,'ll be an eu in 5 years time?the UK will be able to make its own decisions without being hamstrung by the eu,over 2 million eu residents living and working in uk now,what do,'re it tell you about the conditions in their home countries?

5 years ago, on these very boards, we had some very vociferous (and sorely missed posters) who were even more bullish than you. Sgt Rock, for example, had even identified the sequence in which the EU countries would revolt and the dominoes would fall, all to concluded, if I recall correctly, by late 2018. 

 

The reality is that the only people who were correct in their predictions were the remainers. Leavers' triumphalism and vainglory fell somewhat (i.e. fully) short of the mark, and the EU is still standing united while the UK is struggling badly. 

 

Here is a much more credible prediction for you - forget any daft notion about the EU not being around in 5 years. The UK will be a relic of history by that time.