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Regardless of whether this makes any difference or not it's a personal choice by him.

 

Many drugs have a long list of horrendous potential side effects which hardly affect anyone.

 

I take something that some people will go around advising others never to take as it 'destroyed their life' for a while, I have zero side effects as do the vast majority of people.

 

Same as statins, some people have real problems with them, lots of others - no problem.

 

This drug has been available over the counter without prescription in the UK (one of the biggest nanny states of them all) for a very long time.

 

If you want to read about examples of very serious side effects in a widely used drug google this 'ibuprofen toxic epidermal necrolysis death'

 

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2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

We don't know whether he is right or wrong, because nobody knows for sure. At least Trump recommended we make up our own minds.

 

What a welcome change from having them made up for us by so-called experts - most of whom can't even agree among themselves even what day it is.

 

Note to myself not everyone knows enough to trust themselves as they admit they let themselves, even when an expert is offering advice.

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46 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL, one of the funniest threads I've read.  Libs run amok!  The comments are priceless.  Especially the one above.

 

Opinions aside nobody can deny hydroxychloroquine has had great beneficial success for a lot of people.  So how to justify all the ridicule towards Trump?  Hatred.  So many sick people in the world.

 

Rather than link to a bunch of articles I'll provide a host of evidence via a simple search.

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hydroxychloroquine+success+stories&atb=v216-1&ia=web

 

Now folks, try arguing with real facts.

But not science.

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15 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Not your science.  Your science seems to be hatred.  I'm sure the science is discussed by some of the physicians in the available articles about hydroxychloroquine success stories.  I'll bet you haven't read a single one of them before hollowly proclaiming that none of the articles deal with science.

 

I'm telling you, the lib comments in this thread are pure comedy.  LOL

What did I write that indicated hatred? It seems that all the negative emotion is coming from you.

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IMOP,A investigation headed by the world medical organization should take place and decide whether  to take away all those Dr's  medical licenses to practice medicine, for prescribing it. And while reuters is at it, do a hit piece on the FDA for allowing it.

From a April article:

 "The decision on Sunday to grant an emergency-use authorization to chloroquine-based products represented the first time the FDA has used its emergency powers to expand access to a drug during the COVID-19 pandemic".

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-scant-evidence-for-chloroquine-so-far-as-a-covid-19-drug-but-theres-already-a-shortage-2020-03-30

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2 minutes ago, riclag said:

IMOP,A investigation headed by the world medical organization should take away all those Dr's  medical licenses to practice medicine, for prescribing it. And while reuters is at it, do a hit piece on the FDA for allowing it.

From a April article:

 "The decision on Sunday to grant an emergency-use authorization to chloroquine-based products represented the first time the FDA has used its emergency powers to expand access to a drug during the COVID-19 pandemic".

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-scant-evidence-for-chloroquine-so-far-as-a-covid-19-drug-but-theres-already-a-shortage-2020-03-30

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

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14 minutes ago, winslowsjardine said:

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

Yes ,with dr's consent!  Its always been like that!

"You may be asking yourself why your healthcare provider would want to prescribe a drug to treat a disease or medical condition that the drug is not approved for"

https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and-other-treatment-options/understanding-unapproved-use-approved-drugs-label

 

Damm those Dr's who dare to follow the fda guidence!

Seems that the POTUS has talked it over with his dr's

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36 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Not your science.  Your science seems to be hatred.  I'm sure the science is discussed by some of the physicians in the available articles about hydroxychloroquine success stories.  I'll bet you haven't read a single one of them before hollowly proclaiming that none of the articles deal with science.

 

I'm telling you, the lib comments in this thread are pure comedy.  LOL

You really don't understand what science is and the scientific process. What is pure comic gold is the people who try to pass themselves off as intelligent, then reading what they post.

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5 minutes ago, riclag said:

Yes ,with dr's consent!  Its always been like that!

"You may be asking yourself why your healthcare provider would want to prescribe a drug to treat a disease or medical condition that the drug is not approved for"

https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-expanded-access-and-other-treatment-options/understanding-unapproved-use-approved-drugs-label

 

Damm those Dr's who dare to follow the fda guidence

The link you used was from an earlier date. The FDA has changed its guidance since then. 

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5 minutes ago, winslowsjardine said:

The link you used was from an earlier date. The FDA has changed its guidance since then. 

Yes it is from a earlier date ! Please show a link that says dr's are not allowed to prescribe it

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1 minute ago, winslowsjardine said:

It's not about doctors not being allowed to prescribe it. Doctors are allowed to prescribe just about anything off label (with the exception of controlled substances).  So there's nothing special about a doctor prescribing Hydroxychloroquine off label. It is about the FDA updating its stance and recommending against using it except in a hospital setting or in clinical trials.

What he said.

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5 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Asked if a White House doctor had recommended that Trump take the drug, Trump said (allegedly), "I asked him, 'Well, what do you think?' And he said, 'Well, if you'd like it.' 'I said, 'Yeah, I'd like it.'" 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hydroxychloroquine-donald-trump-taking-drug-covid-19-prevention/

Hardly a ringing medical prescription. 

The smart "experts" hedge their bets.

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5 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

"A long-winded ramble around the mulberry bush for nothing. Trump checked with the White House's chief physician before taking the medication. Besides. . . 

An international poll of thousands of doctors rated the Trump-touted anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine the best treatment for the novel coronavirus.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/hydroxychloroquine-most-effective-coronavirus-treatment-poll/"

 

So you do listen to medial health care experts (i.e. doctors). Good for you!

 

"As for trusting health "experts. . . did you know that medical negligence is the third most common cause of death in the US after heart disease and cancer?

Ah, well, I guess you can't make an omelette . . . 

https://aeelaw.com/medical-negligence-the-third-largest-killer-in-the-us/"

 

Hold it....or don't you? I guess you're having a hard time making your mind up.

Hardly surprising. This may not be the most serious virus ever,  but - thanks to the endless contradictory input from so-called experts of every stripe - it undoubtedly is the most confusing.

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14 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Hardly surprising. This may not be the most serious virus ever,  but - thanks to the endless contradictory input from so-called experts of every stripe - it undoubtedly is the most confusing.

Nothing contradictory about what experts say. Its the self proclaimed experts and the president causing confusion.

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18 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

And lots of doctors who show proof that it works.  Perhaps not effective in serious cases but otherwise found to be effective.

No anti viral works in advanced stages of viral infections. This includes remdesivir. HCQ/Athi combo is part of the standard treatment protocol when patients first show up with covid symptoms in Thailand and other countries. Alot of frontline medical staff also take HCQ as a precaution. There is nothing controversial about HCQ, its a well known drug that is well tolerated and has shown good results when administered properly.

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8 hours ago, winslowsjardine said:

Success stories are anecdotal. That's not science. 

LOL.  That's simply an automated blanket response.  And usually given without reading any of the scientific evidence provided in success stories.

 

And here's a very important question for ya (and just to forewarn, don't get all squirrelly in a reply):

 

Whose science are we talking about?  You know, is it the settled science type that global warming is real or is it the science type which counters the settled science type?  Inquiring minds want to know.

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