Video: Pensioners in custody after minor argument leads to death of security guard in Bangkok

[webfact]

Video: Pensioners in custody after minor argument leads to death of security guard in Bangkok

 

Image: Sanook

 

A pointless argument led to the death of a thirty seven year old  security guard in Samut Prakan yesterday morning.

 

A couple aged 70 and 73 who are motorcycle taxi riders are in police custody charged with murder.

 

Sanook reported that Bang Kaew police attended the scene where Saphaporn was lying in a pool of blood with a single chest wound. He was dead.

 

Giving evidence was 70 year old Phayao and her husband Than, 73.

 

Phayao said her husband had called her after having a minor accident with a car as he wanted her to bring his registration papers. 

 

She parked her motorcycle in front of a busy parking lot angering the guard who attacked her.

 

A melee ensued in which a nine month old baby was slapped, said the media.

 

The guard would not stop. A helmet was used as a weapon and Phayao said she acted in self defence after she got a fruit paring knife from her bag.

 

A video of the assaults caught on mobile phone were blurred and unclear. The guard died away from the scene of the initial confrontation.

 

The lady who was involved in the original scrape said it all should have been sorted amicably, instead it blew up into a pointless argument in which a young man lost his life.

 

Source: Sanook

 

 

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[realfunster]

 

I wonder if that is the fatal stabbing at 34 seconds ? His back is turned and he is clearly walking away, it would seem to make the self-defence case a challenge.

Looks like they have the whole thing on video, so should be an open & shut case. 

 

What a waste, one dead and probably two OAPs spending their final years in prison away from kids and grandkids.

[ezzra]

Bringing a knife to a helmet fight, no way will be a self defense case two against one the guard, pity that people in their 70's will have to end their life in prison...

[ThreeEyedRaven]

It always surprises and saddens me how swift Thais are in turning a minor incident into one involving violence. The idea of discussing anything rationally just doesn't seem to happen.

[OnTheGround]

All could been avoided with 'jai jen jen'

(cold heart, calm)

 

[steven100]

you would think by 70 one would have more sense ....  

[ThailandRyan]

Never heard of a thai being called a pensioner before. The OP title made me think it was about an expat possibly, but then it might have been me reading into it.....

Edited May 20, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[Mama Noodle]

That blurry image in the OP sure as sh*t looks to me like a motorbike taxi mob ganging up on a security guard trying to do his job.

 

Not seeing much in the way of 'self defense' at all. 

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Never heard of a thai being called a pensioner before. The OP title made me think it was about an expat possibly, but tben it might have been me reading into it.....

 

You are not the only one. I clicked the link thinking the same thing. 

[BTB1977]

A 37 year old man child gets into a fight with a 70 year old granny.  And gets his ass handed to him 

[kwonitoy]

For a 73 year old, he swings a pretty mean helmet

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, BTB1977 said:

A 37 year old man child gets into a fight with a 70 year old granny.  And gets his ass handed to him 

Perhaps you should be in charge of writing the headlines.

[tonray]

18 minutes ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

It always surprises and saddens me how swift Thais are in turning a minor incident into one involving violence. The idea of discussing anything rationally just doesn't seem to happen.

The only way to deal with a conflict in Thailand is to "Wai and Walk Away". Any other method will likely lead to violence.

[baansgr]

25 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Bringing a knife to a helmet fight, no way will be a self defense case two against one the guard, pity that people in their 70's will have to end their life in prison...

The knife and also the helmet were both used by the assailants.

[bodga]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The lady who was involved in the original scrape said it all should have been sorted amicably,

By me not being typically selfish and blocking the parking lot, but I was  too stupid and don't like being told what to do and now I can spend the rest of my life locked up, congratulations luv!

[Canuck1966]

I've watched the video several times and hard to see where the stab happens

Also there was literally not a drop of blood in the whole video

 

[BritManToo]

"Mr. Sathaporn, 37 years, was lying in a pool of blood on Thepparat Road. There was a stab wound in the left chest. The attacker was Phayao, 70 years old and Mr Tan, aged 73 years,"

 

If he'd showed the respect required by Thai culture for the elderly couple he'd be alive today.

Early stages of the video, looked like the security guard doing the attacking, kicking and punching.

At 35s the security guard appears to be wielding an iron bar.

 

According to the story the security guard was only stabbed after repeatedly slapping a 9 month old toddler.

If he'd been slapping my baby, I'd probably have stabbed him too.

Edited May 20, 2020 by BritManToo

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, realfunster said:

 

I wonder if that is the fatal stabbing at 34 seconds ? His back is turned and he is clearly walking away, it would seem to make the self-defence case a challenge.

Looks like they have the whole thing on video, so should be an open & shut case. 

 

What a waste, one dead and probably two OAPs spending their final years in prison away from kids and grandkids.

Considering that they allegedly murdered a man over nothing, I’d say it’s a good thing they are kept away from their grandkids. 

Edited May 20, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Tarteso]

This is the effect and the big difference between use the animal instinct or the human reason.

[smedly]

MB taxi ranks have a reputation for conflict when someone invades or gets close to their parking space - they should know better

 

Thugs 

[Yinn]

2 hours ago, OnTheGround said:

All could been avoided with 'jai jen jen'

(cold heart, calm)

 

Jai Yen Yen*

[trainman34014]

3 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

It always surprises and saddens me how swift Thais are in turning a minor incident into one involving violence. The idea of discussing anything rationally just doesn't seem to happen.

Can't expect anything else with all the similar <deleted> on their daily Soaps; they think it's normal behaviour.

[rasmus5150]

4 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

It always surprises and saddens me how swift Thais are in turning a minor incident into one involving violence. The idea of discussing anything rationally just doesn't seem to happen.

Loss of Face.

Many would rather kill than loose their face. Trust Thailand.....

[Bob A Kneale]

4 hours ago, bodga said:

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The lady who was involved in the original scrape said it all should have been sorted amicably,

By me not being typically selfish and blocking the parking lot, but I was  too stupid and don't like being told what to do and now I can spend the rest of my life locked up, congratulations luv!

The lady involved in the original scrape was not the wife who was called to the scene with the bike's papers and a knife in her bag! 

[Bob A Kneale]

4 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

I've watched the video several times and hard to see where the stab happens

Also there was literally not a drop of blood in the whole video

 

Would you have been happier if you had seen the knife go in and seen some of the murdered guard's blood?

Edited May 20, 2020 by Bob A Kneale

[Bob A Kneale]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

According to the story the security guard was only stabbed after repeatedly slapping a 9 month old toddler.

The link does not say that the child was "repeatedly" slapped.  Slapping a child is inexcusable, I know (but likely accidental), but your claiming that the slapping was "repeated" when that was not what was reported is also inexcusable.

Edited May 20, 2020 by Bob A Kneale

[Bob A Kneale]

5 hours ago, OnTheGround said:

All could been avoided with 'jai jen jen'

(cold heart, calm)

 

'jai jen jen'

I think you need to brush up  your Thai language skills a little!

[JeffersLos]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

pity that people in their 70's will have to end their life in prison...

Oh I wouldn't be so sure of that. 

[JeffersLos]

25 minutes ago, rasmus5150 said:

Loss of Face.

Many would rather kill than loose their face. Trust Thailand.....

A social death is worse than a physical one. 

[Canuck1966]

46 minutes ago, Bob A Kneale said:

Would you have been happier if you had seen the knife go in and seen some of the murdered guard's blood?

100 times out of 100 when somebody is stabbed there is blood

He had a blue shirt on and seemed completely fine throughout the video.

I was inferring that the stabbing came after the video stopped

 

I can go on bestgore.com if I want to see extreme human violence or gore