fgmr Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Over the last few weeks I have been observing the Flight Arrivals & Departures Board at BKK. I note that some airlines appear to be operating regular flights. Is CAAT monitoring compliance? See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxout Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I believe they are flights carrying cargo only which are for some unknown technical reason flying with passenger flight designations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, fgmr said: Over the last few weeks I have been observing the Flight Arrivals & Departures Board at BKK. I note that some airlines appear to be operating regular flights. Is CAAT monitoring compliance? See Your link does not work (link to Google mail!?). It's a common misunderstanding that there are no passenger flights at all. But of course the number of passengers arriving is marginal. Exceptions are repatriation of Thai citizens and few diplomatic/VIP exceptions. Inbound the flights often carry cargo even in the passenger cabin. Outbound there are still foreigners leaving mostly back to their home countries. The situation and rules can change anytime. I am not up-to-date to the minute. This is a list stolen from some source in the net. KLM, Lufthansa, Eva, Korean and Qatar still active. Can't tell what the original source is: https://docs.google.com/file/d/1snMadRa4eJJT8oQs7CBQ4NVqCpFWbkRg/edit?filetype=msword Edited May 20, 2020 by KhunBENQ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 The header contains an outdated information about flight ban (until 31 May). The ban has been extended until June 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphus Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I do believe that there are passenger aircraft that have had their seats hastily removed and are carrying cargo that is light enough for the cabin and the continuing normal cargo space down below. However, there are still passenger flights flying into BKK. They must and can only be repatriation flights of Thai citizens. You can get more flight designations from flightradar24 app from the google and apple store. The free version still let's you get the flight details of every plane flying globally. Surprisingly there are still s lot of flights around the world. But looking at china and vietnam, you will see the domestic flights have restarted along with thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 The arrivals are mostly repatriated Thais. The departures you can book a flight out international. But, each day I check 90% are canceled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Its already said in here many times!!! This airline flight here empty , can take passengers when flight out! Have flight all the time, like Qatar have had 1 flight to Doha every day! There you can continue where going conection flight! Edited May 20, 2020 by 2 is 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxout Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Singapore will start allowing passengers to transit at Changi starting June 2. That will probably put some pressure on other regional hubs like Bangkok, HK and Taipei to do the same. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yesterday, Thursday was a busy day for international departures... Looks like ~ 10 flights departed already, or scheduled to depart, today. THU 21 May int departures (excl. cargo) HKG TG HEL AY SVO SU RGN ?? HAN VN TPE CA MLE ?? HKG TG HKG CX SGN VN DOH QR HKG ?? HND NH AMS KL FRA LH ICN KE NRT TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 From what I have come to understand in basic terms is that Airlines that operate scheduled flights according to a minimum number are required to operate those flights regardless in order to maintain the rights to occupy the flight paths granted under some international platform . It exists (in normal times) to ensure various aspects of safety and fair competition etc etc. In order to maintain "slots" airlines must adhere to a set schedule of a minimum usage but which can be increased in times of high demand. Road Bus lines are not so different. Operate the route or concede to another competitor passengers or not. The International conventions are set to be able to monitor traffic within air corridors. So that does not mean to say the aircraft has to carry passengers. Most passenger aircraft have always carried a volume of commercial freight which is why the passenger baggage weights are usually regulated so as to not impact of the more lucrative commercial freight weights. Now commercial freight will have become a vital financial component in protecting "slots" whether or not sufficient in true operational costs. Some may be if it involves the overlooked factor that "Diplomatic" peoples are exempt of travel restrictions and it can be a sure bet the seats they sit in are not budget! Perhaps too Freight Forwarding Companies are for the moment in a strong negotiating position to negotiate convenient discounts ? Core business continues behind the gloomy curtain of mitigation. That is why more than just the basics of consumables and other services are still available in general. What we will get to see when that curtain eventually gets raised is anyones guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: From what I have come to understand in basic terms is that Airlines that operate scheduled flights according to a minimum number are required to operate those flights regardless in order to maintain the rights to occupy the flight paths granted under some international platform . It exists (in normal times) to ensure various aspects of safety and fair competition etc etc. In order to maintain "slots" airlines must adhere to a set schedule of a minimum usage but which can be increased in times of high demand. Most/many/all airport authorities have temporarily waived landing slot requirements (typically requiring ~ 80% usage, which resulted in phantom flights). The EU has done this through 24 October 2020. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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