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34 minutes ago, stupidfarang said:

I keep seeing people talking about people getting free flights, where is this information coming from? It would be good to see actual proof. I would not be surprised that it happens but I just like to see real proof and not just comments with no back up.

You won't get any.  Every time there's a Thai Airways thread the same people shriek about hi-sos blah blah blah and I always ask for evidence or a link or anything..........and nobody ever provides it.

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are these all the planes parked up @ Alice Springs?....

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1 hour ago, Cisco said:

Much like running a country!

Oh hell yes, just run it into the ground and take what you can stuff in your pockets before you leave the door open for the vultures to pick the bones clean...

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15 minutes ago, wombat said:

are these all the planes parked up @ Alice Springs?....

Many are parked at Utapao you can see them from Sukhumvit Road as you drive by

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17 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

So again you are not providing any evidence of the plague of the hi-sos filling up aircraft for free.

The incident you are probably referring to was the case of the two dead heading pilots bumping two passengers from first class.  Those two passengers had been upgraded (for free) from business class and refused to relinquish their new first class status. 

 

Due to a technical issue the aircraft was changed from a 777 to an old 747 which did not have a crew rest area for the dead headers to sleep in (and they needed their rest hours as they were back on duty after the flight) so they claimed the rules stated they must have a first class seat to sleep in as business class on the old 747 is not lie flat, hence asking the upgraded passengers to move which they refused to do so.

Did Thai handle the situation very poorly?  Yes.  Was it a PR disaster?  Yes.  Was it a paying first class passenger getting moved for a hi-so free loader?  Nope, not at all.  

Got any other "evidence"?

Colin's confused again but has no answer.  It seems you just react to headlines so I give you an explanation and it confuses you?

 

 

 



 

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5 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Free flights have nothing to do with it. Most airlines offer their personnel discounted/free perks,

 

If you look at the top-line management team, they are pretty much all ex-military. Inflexible, unable to think outside the box unimiagnative and used to following rules and procedures. They have very little experience of running a business let alone an airline and sadly this formula has been repeated time and time again.

 

What you need in any well run company is a respected management team who understand market dynamics and competition and are customer foccussed whilst also keeping a tight reign on the purse-strings.

 

They need to privatise the whole damned operation whilst keeping govermental noses out of the business. It will take years to turn it around but its the airlines best chance of success.

 

 

"ll ex-military. Inflexible, unable to think outside the box unimiagnative and used to following rules and procedures."  While I agree that they should not be running a commercial business without suitable qualifications and experience, your representation of Military Officers is both insulting and a tired stereotype.  It may be true in Thailand, it is certainly not true in the UK, US or other western democracies. A person with your list of character flaws would not last long in the Military, or in a conflict situation.    

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5 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

To be fair, that's generally the rule of thumb for a lot of airlines

 

Economy = Base

Business = Base x 3/4

First = Base x 7/8

 

Obviously there are promotions to be had which mitigate the higher fares.

 

I would hazard a guess that around 80% of the time I book a flight to Thailand Emirates are cheaper.

 

 

Thai had direct flights to UK and good legroom in economy. I might have flown Emirates but for the stopoff.

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5 hours ago, Pilotman said:

"ll ex-military. Inflexible, unable to think outside the box unimiagnative and used to following rules and procedures."  While I agree that they should not be running a commercial business without suitable qualifications and experience, your representation of Military Officers is both insulting and a tired stereotype.  It may be true in Thailand, it is certainly not true in the UK, US or other western democracies. A person with your list of character flaws would not last long in the Military, or in a conflict situation.    

It pretty much describes the officers I had the misfortune to serve under, with a few exceptions to the rule.

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48 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Colin's confused again but has no answer.  It seems you just react to headlines so I give you an explanation and it confuses you?

 

 

 



 

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I guess you need to learn to read.....My post within this thread #23.

"It is the main reason I have not flown with Thai in the past 4 years.  I had a flight to the US and back, but was bumped from my first class seat so an employee could take their trip, I do not care if it was a pilot or a freaking executive, you do not bounce a paying customer.  Instead they offered me a voucher for the inconvenience when I complained.  I ended up flying out on Korean Air, and have flown them ever since.  Never did get a full refund from Thai.  They are so screwed up.  Employee's may fly free but it should be on a standby only option, and if a seat is open then they can take it.  If a seat is already occupied and you remove that person for your free employee you are a unscrupulous company in my book." 

 

https://www.thetravel.com/thai-airways-flight-delayed-and-passengers-booted-when-two-off-duty-pilots-demanded-first-class-seats/

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