webfact Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Video: Who's in the right? Security guard said he was innocent and was on his way to work so didn't stop Picture: Daily News A video that hit national Thai TV showed the moment when a 53 year old woman was crossing a Soi in Samrong near Bangkok. Bunliang told Samrong Neua police later that she looked right and left while riding her bicycle and thought the motorcycle would go round her. Somrit, 44, collided with her and left her in a heap in the soi. He then had a go at her for causing the accident before driving off leaving other people to attend to tbe lady who had been on her way to market. The victim and her daughter Nuanchawee who posted the footage on Facebook went to the police. They didn't want to make a big deal of it but wanted an apology. The cops managed to contact the rider who turned up later to say that he was not the one at fault. He said he stopped to inquire about the lady and seeing that she was not injured he drove off. He said he was on his way to work and couldn't stop for long. Police charged him with recklessness and fleeing the scene of an accident. It was agreed that he would pay 10,000 baht restitution to the lady - in two instalments. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-05-21 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thequietman Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 She clearly did not look and wasn't in any kind of hurry to cross in time. Me, me, me. The motorcycle driver should have found it easy to go around her to the left, but they are not taught here to go for the gap. ???? 70% her & 30% him - regarding fault. ???? 4 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wendyfromoz Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 what a horible person. He is definately in the wrong 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 They should refer the motor bike driver to the driving school for the blind if he didn't see her. 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post asiaexpat Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 Local custom frequently imposes liability on the wrong person. I found out that the hard way in Saudi Arabia when an old man stepped in front of my car from behind a parked truck and was knocked down but not seriously injured; I paid a large sum to him since the option was jail. In Thailand few people look before crossing streets of changing traffic lanes so drivers must always be alert, legal rules do not overcome custom. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CharlieH Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 Damn lucky there was no traffic coming the other way ! as she wouldve been bounced right into it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Olmate Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, thequietman said: She clearly did not look and wasn't in any kind of hurry to cross in time. Me, me, me. The motorcycle driver should have found it easy to go around her to the left, but they are not taught here to go for the gap. ???? 70% her & 30% him - regarding fault. ???? 10000 baht says your wrong! 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dmaxdan Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, webfact said: Bunliang told Samrong Neua police later that she looked right and left while riding her bicycle and thought the motorcycle would go round her. Many years ago when I learnt to drive, my instructor said to me that you never ever assume that other road users will see you, and you certainly never leave it up to them to take the avoiding action. Wise words indeed and if applied here then many accidents such as this could be avoided. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post unamazedloso Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 Hang on a minnie... Its not a designated crossing and this cyclist is just almost loitering with the snails pace shown. Womens at fault here. 2 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtof2 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, webfact said: the rider who turned up later to say that he was not the one at fault. Another stupid. Typical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 He will pay 10,000 Baht in two instalments.....over the next 10 years ! Good luck to the Lady trying to extract the dosh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Titan1962 Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 Well as usual they can’t see more than 2ft in front of them. Bike rider needs to take responsibility,the lady was on the road. He had time by the looks of it to avoid hitting her. Plus he didn’t stop because he was going to have to fork out some cash. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterphuket Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 The motorbike is driving already on the wrong side of the road, he is far away, why he don't passing her on the left side? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 ' Sorry can't stop long '. Better than a lot I guess who don't stop at all , just keep on going. I think its called mental erase. Switch the brain back to food or something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relocated Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It seemed two ego clash. Both didn't want to yield to others for courtesy or safety and pushed themselves to the limit. It is pretty normal in most under-developed countries. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wcoast Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 The clip doesn't tell everything. That said, the woman appears to moving slowly across a virtually empty street, there is no way the driver couldn't have seen her and her intersecting movements a long way off and adjusted himself accordingly. Definitely should have moved to the left, and slowed down. The woman appears to be looking towards him as she crosses. Woman: not much traffic on street, wait a few more secs to be totally safe. 10% responsible. Driver: total fail not adjusting to someone crossing far ahead with unobstructed view. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Both should be fined and sent to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I'm not Thai and I didn't spend my formative years here, but when I'm driving, I'm always fully aware and considerate of pedestrians and treat them accordingly as the unpredictable creatures that they are. I apply the exact same logic to drivers when I'm the pedestrian. The roads here are a sad state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 hours ago, thequietman said: She clearly did not look and wasn't in any kind of hurry to cross in time. Me, me, me. The motorcycle driver should have found it easy to go around her to the left, but they are not taught here to go for the gap. ???? 70% her & 30% him - regarding fault. ???? I see it at 70% him, and 30% her, regarding fault. Then you add 30% more for him, to make it a nice even number. If I was able to see on the sides of the roads, for the last 15 years here in Phuket, and know what is moving towards where, how come he was not? The only few times I had some close calls on my motorbikes, is when I decided to reduce my speed by 10 to 20 km per hour, depending on the type of road.... "She clearly did not look and wasn't in any kind of hurry to cross in time. Me, me, me." If it was a 5 year old kid, would you say the same, me,me,me, and blame the kid. If I am on a streets where people are walking, old Phuket town for example, I will be the one driving at 20 km/k, looking at these motorbike drivers trying to reach their own eternity as quickly as possible, and not caring about bringing someone else with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 hours ago, thequietman said: She clearly did not look and wasn't in any kind of hurry to cross in time. Me, me, me. The motorcycle driver should have found it easy to go around her to the left, but they are not taught here to go for the gap. ???? 70% her & 30% him - regarding fault. ???? He hit her - end of. He should have been traveling at an appropriate speed and been able to brake and/or take evasive action. Arguing and pissing off just made matters worse. IME, the police here usually apportion blame to the driver that hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: thought the motorcycle would go round her Never assume anything on Thai roads.....it could result in your death. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 The clip starts a little late, however, from what I can see it would appear the cause / blame is the usual... 'Two stupid people not taking care of their safety' The woman is crossing the road without any real degree of attention or awareness of oncoming traffic. The motorcyclist was not really looking where he was going and failed to spot the lady crossing the road until too late. Both clearly in the wrong - the motorcyclist should have stopped and could stopped had he been paying attention. 70/30 fault weighted towards the motorcyclists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 7 hours ago, webfact said: It was agreed that he would pay 10,000 baht restitution to the lady - in two instalments. 2025 & 2030? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) I don't think it's a matter of who was in the wrong, he clearly was not harmed, the lady might have had a few bruises...but a little compassion from him might have helped. Like going to her and helping her to the side of the road. Or perhaps I'm wrong, he turned round and enquired/looked at her, and that' is enough...is it? Edited May 21, 2020 by TKDfella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, TKDfella said: I don't think it's a matter of who was in the wrong, he clearly was not harmed, the lady might have had a few bruises...but a little compassion from him might have helped. Or perhaps I'm wrong and he turned round and called 'Are you okay?' and she replied 'I'm fine, thanks.' Indeed, in not getting off his bike to offer some assistance to the lady on the floor the motorcyclists showed his true self centered selfish nature. We saw three guys run over to help, that's good. But all too often we see those involved in the accident drive off with a degree of unashamed carelessness - I think this is down to the extreme juvenile nature of many Thai's who are unable to handle any form of conflict and instead panic because they don't know what to do. It's a shame people need to be educated to do the right thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Baerboxer said: He hit her - end of. He should have been traveling at an appropriate speed and been able to brake and/or take evasive action. Arguing and pissing off just made matters worse. IME, the police here usually apportion blame to the driver that hits. Agree with you. I looked at that video many times on the tv news. There was actually a bike coming towards them from the opposite direction and the bike rider was still on the wrong side of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Baerboxer said: He hit her - end of. He should have been traveling at an appropriate speed and been able to brake and/or take evasive action. Arguing and pissing off just made matters worse. IME, the police here usually apportion blame to the driver that hits. Imagine he would have been Farang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 She looked Right and Left and still cut in front of the MC. He could've stopped and assist but was on the way to work. She looked ok so Keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick501 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 The police will thoroughly investigate and determine who's at fault. Opening bids please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Motorbike at fault. Drives wrong side of the road and flees the accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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