thaiowl Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Need lessons from these two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffy Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 1:21 PM, RichardColeman said: They do realise that by writing off any money owed to Airbus could mean they lose 30 planes. right ? A lot of airlines will cease to exist unless they get bailouts .Look for higher prices and less choice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, muffy said: A lot of airlines will cease to exist unless they get bailouts .Look for higher prices and less choice . Apart from the Lakorn that is TG, you are right. Many airlines may not survive this nightmare. Those that do will emerge as different airlines, probably with a much reduced fleet. The boneyards in California and Spain are testament to the number of aircraft that are parked probably never going to fly again, and it's a sign of what airlines that do survive are going to look like. If I had to predict a lot less widebody capacity and a lot more focus on single aisle ETOPS aircraft Edited May 24, 2020 by GinBoy2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Back to the 6,000 staff layoffs. My guess (could be wrong of course) is that: - The overall/long-term policy of the gov't., is that Thai must continue/re-start in some form. - So perhaps there is already, or very soon will be, a new Thai International plan (big picture) with a presumed route plan and new strategic plan & service offerings plan. - Plus a new big picture staffing plan: - Based on new route plan and new/adjusted picture of aircraft, route/service offerings, flight crews, maintenance staff, cabin crews, check-in / ground staff etc., needed. - And the above numbers based to some extent on comparisons of staff numbers employed by successful airlines with similar route picture. And clearly avoiding a copy of the offerings, structure, costs etc., is place for the last 20 years. So, will the overall numbers needed (as per above) equal the remaining 14,000+ staff? Surely that cannot be true or acceptable, and if tried would gain some very strong and powerful objections. Or would it? And how long will the 14,000+ staff not yet removed be retained? And will there be a policy to take advantage of this whole mess: - To reduce the average age of staff? - To remove large numbers of staff who have strong poor service attitudes, and staff who believe they are entitled? - To reduce the current large numbers of managerial/supervisory staff who are not needed and add no specific value to the operations or revenues and margins? And what will the remaining 4,000+ staff (a lot of people) be doing in the meantime? Does it mean they will remain in full salary for 2+ years? Surely that cannot be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 12:47 PM, ezzra said: Hopefully some of them will of the indifferent, aloof and oh' not so young anymore cabin crew... and why on earth are they always lugging these huge suitcases even on a single overnight trip i could never understand... Buying and selling goods tax free or goods unavailable in different countries-making extra cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigilante Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 This <deleted>show will end up with Thai being sold to some prestige-seeking $ucker for 1 baht plus some of the debt and a reduced work-farce Still unlikely the company will turn any profit for the next few years. I wouldn't touch it with a 1000-ft pole if I was an investor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadillo215 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 12:47 PM, ezzra said: Hopefully some of them will of the indifferent, aloof and oh' not so young anymore cabin crew... and why on earth are they always lugging these huge suitcases even on a single overnight trip i could never understand... To carry things not declared back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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