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9 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Agree. That is why I thought that it would have been easier and  faster  to use the Marriage  Certificate version as already there. But  maybe he had doubts about the accuracy? I don't know, can't read Thai.

 

I had no doubts. The person at the desk didn't find the translation of our marriage certificate satisfying and wanted a translation of my passport, too. 

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Here's one reason I want the yellow book: My wife has her own bank account. I have one here, too (though had to go to four banks before finding one that would open one for me...all cited random made up rules why they couldn't). We went the other day to six different banks to open a joint account and all six refused and gave the same explanation: no yellow book. They all said come back with a yellow book and they will do it. 

 

Could come in handy elsewhere...like getting my DL. 

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1 hour ago, JCP108 said:

Could come in handy elsewhere...like getting my DL. 

At present your passport number will be used as your ID number on your DL. When you renew it, if you present just your yellow book and ID card (as Thai Nationals do), instead of your passport and residency certificate from immigration, your passport number will be replaced by your Thai ID number on the new DL.

 

I used just my yellow book and ID card when opening a bank account at Krung Thai and Thanachart Banks. A bit more complex at Bangkok Bank. They will accept the yellow book and ID as proof of address and ID but they also ask for a reference letter from your Embassy and your Embassy will only ID you from your passport so will put your passport number in that letter. The Bangkok bank will then need to see your passport as well when opening the account. 

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7 hours ago, mancub said:

Go to Aumpher ,,,ask the req's . Go back next week to find they now want additional/different stuff !

Often works for Immigration also.

ps ,MFA in Ubon wanted me to "guarantee my passport was genuine" ie via British Embassy BKK, before they would consider endorsing passport copies.

Surprisingly. I do not have a yellow book!

Not surprisingly at at all. Next.

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8 hours ago, luckyluke said:

The costs are also relative, for one it is too cheap to delegate than to do itself, for another he prefer to do it himself as he consider the price to delegate as too high.

I don't see it as being mainly about the money. Personally I rather enjoy seeing if I can meet a challenge and even make something of a game out of it--especially if it's some BLOODY AWFUL process that our delicate TVF Posters whinge about and have to waste money paying some agent to do for them. I like to find the fastest, most efficient, most convenient way of getting it done. I also like seeing if I can get some friendly responses out of the Thais I'm dealing with, and I usually do, so that it's a pleasant interaction for both parties. Had fun joking around with the ladies at City Hall when I got my yellow book, even gave my phone# to one of 'em (still waiting).

 

In general I like the feeling of independence. "Do not go gentle" and all that. Few months ago I dealt with 3 government offices including SS in Laem Chambang--alone, not clinging to a skirt, and, with a few amusing fumbles, got everything done. Listened to music while sitting in the queue, had a book to read. The Thais were all quite nice.

 

I've been known to get lazy or even busy and pay a motorcy man to do my 90-day report, though.

 

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The pink ID card MAY help one avoid the farang surcharge at public hospitals. (Need some verification of this, but I will re-register with it at Banglamung and Queen Savang Vadhana Memorial next time I'm in the areas.)

 

If you have Thai SS health insurance it's also useful for identifying you at your registered hospital and making sure you receive benefits. (Thanks to Sheryl for this tip.) Now the card, if you have one, is used in lieu of the old insurance card they used to send out every couple of years. (Though somebody said he still has a card, SS wouldn't give me a new one but told me to use my pink ID.) If you get a card, you need to go to the SS office and get yourself in the system by your ID number.

 

Some don't know that Thai SS gives you B800 for yearly dental expenses if you fill out the form with the dentist. I keep forgetting to do that. 

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17 hours ago, BigStar said:

So then, for example, does your agent deposit and withdraw money for you over the counter at the bank? You need a quick 5K for a little shopping, just call your agent and he brings it? And you want to mail a package or pick up a package at the PO. You call your agent and he does it for you? 

No call my GF who has my ATM card to bring money for me. 😀

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Two or three years ago I went through all the fuss of getting this "Yellow book" thing.  Birth and marriage cert officially translated, photos outside my house with Khun wife and Phu Yai Ban, two visits to Bangkok and hours in local 'land office.'  Result; a yellow book that no immigration official has even shown the slightest interest in.  I have Thai driving licence and bank account with Kasikorn without this 'book' so why do I need it? In my opinion a waste of time and money.  I cannot understand why this Thread keeps coming back.

Nobody on this Forum has ever been able to tell me the advantage of Yellow Book.   One Immigration official at Chiang Rai told me I should get a YB 'because I needed one'

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1 hour ago, Robin said:

Two or three years ago I went through all the fuss of getting this "Yellow book" thing.  Birth and marriage cert officially translated, photos outside my house with Khun wife and Phu Yai Ban, two visits to Bangkok and hours in local 'land office.'  Result; a yellow book that no immigration official has even shown the slightest interest in.  I have Thai driving licence and bank account with Kasikorn without this 'book' so why do I need it? In my opinion a waste of time and money.  I cannot understand why this Thread keeps coming back.

Nobody on this Forum has ever been able to tell me the advantage of Yellow Book.   One Immigration official at Chiang Rai told me I should get a YB 'because I needed one'

Individual advantages have been highlighted on various threads on this forum many times.

 

To group every advantage together, it's easier to use a YB and ID card than not have one. It's called CONVENIENCE.

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2 hours ago, Robin said:

Nobody on this Forum has ever been able to tell me the advantage of Yellow Book.

Been told countless times. But it isn't critically necessary, you see. Nor does anyone this Forum care in the slightest whether you have a Yellow Book or not. Congratulate yourself as you wish.

 

Just another lesson in the power of selective perception. I first learned about this from dear old dad (RIP), who illustrated it when reading his daily newspaper. The parts that he agreed with jumped out immediately. He'd underline them and even cut them out and post them on the fridge door where none of the family members could miss them.

 

The parts that disagreed--often the most important that critically refuted his somewhat naive beliefs--he totally failed to see. His paper was like a piece of Swiss cheese melted to close up all the holes. 

 

We commonly see this on the forum among our ace Shopping Mall analysts who've never seen any shoppers in Thai malls. 🙂 They cannot exist!

 

Hence, no point in repeating the rather minor advantages for you (unless you have Thai SS). You'd simply ignore them and later just repeat the same thing. SOP.

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5 hours ago, Mulambana said:

No call my GF who has my ATM card to bring money for me. 😀

What part of "withdraw over the counter" is difficult for you to understand?

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7 hours ago, Robin said:

Two or three years ago I went through all the fuss of getting this "Yellow book" thing.  Birth and marriage cert officially translated, photos outside my house with Khun wife and Phu Yai Ban, two visits to Bangkok and hours in local 'land office.'  Result; a yellow book that no immigration official has even shown the slightest interest in.  I have Thai driving licence and bank account with Kasikorn without this 'book' so why do I need it? In my opinion a waste of time and money.  I cannot understand why this Thread keeps coming back.

Nobody on this Forum has ever been able to tell me the advantage of Yellow Book.   One Immigration official at Chiang Rai told me I should get a YB 'because I needed one'

I've just come across a list of uses for a YB/ID card that I sent to somebody a year or so ago on this forum. These are just times when I had used them in the previous year-eighteen months.

 

Of course you can do all of these without having a YB/ID card but having them makes things much easier and more convenient:

 

Open a bank account

Replace stolen bank cards

Buy a car/motorcycle

Buy a mobile phone

Buy a sim card/mobile package

Obtain/update a home/office internet connection

Renew a Thai driving licence

Domestic flight ticket

Register at a hospital

Register at the tax office

Thai prices at various parks etc

Sending/collecting mail/parcels via the post office

Book into hotels

Proof of residence when renewing my annual extensions

Anywhere an ID is used as a deposit

In fact anywhere proof of ID and/or proof of address is needed.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, john terry1001 said:

In fact anywhere proof of ID and/or proof of address is needed.

Not always since they are not always accepted for some things. I have heard of it not being accepted at banks, airlines, immigration and etc.

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To date I have  not yet  had any occasion to present  my  yellow book. But the ID  card  that is obtainable having done the  Yellow Book thing has been  quite  useful in satisfying the requirements  that have occurred several times already  during this  C-19  event.Officials or others designated  to carry out functions on behalf of are  quite  happy to accept that ID for whatever  purpose they have  because it is in Thai script which averts the need to  struggle or pretend  to understand the  English  version  in my Passport or  non Thai  Driving  license.

Given the diversity of the origins of many foreigners in Thailand who present to Thai "authorities", or others with apparent legitimate cause, and despite the  International convention of  Passports  being  in English it is not unsurprising  or  unreasonable that the core information being asked or confirmed  is provided  in Thai that is  non verbal, non  disputable, and generally acceptable. I deliberately  avoid  "interpretable" because I have  no  idea how identification via translation from some languages is achieved at all at times ! 

 

 

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Used my Yellow book to get my Thai DL without having to go to immigration for a certificate of residency.  Made it also easy to buy my MC and my Car, no issues or hassles about needing another certificate of residence. Opened up bank accounts with my Pink Thai Non-Immigrant ID and yellow book as well.  Everything already in Thai on the documents, made it easy for the bank.  Also use my Thai ID to check in for flights, well I did before Covid shut it all down, and easily rented cars in other provinces after arriving by flights by Showing my Thai Dl.....I guess the small amount of trouble it took for me to obtain these items many years ago for me has at least been worth it.  To each his own I guess....

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