webfact Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Not wearing a mask: Lottery seller attacks "jobsworth" with a coffee cup Picture: Sanook A municipal worker who is part of a team touring markets in Suphanburi as part of Covid-19 restrictions went to the police yesterday. He said that a lottery seller called Chaloey, 59, attacked him with a coffee cup after he said he should be wearing a mask. Sarot, 41, said he had warned Chaloey before. He told Derm Bang Nang Buat police that as he toured a market the older man pointed at him as passed. The suspect was drinking a coffee in a market shop. He yelled that he was a jobsworth who was power crazy and had threatened to have him arrested and thrown in jail for not wearing a mask. As Sarot went over to reiterate the mask wearing policy Chaloey emerged from the shop holding the cup full of hot coffee. He then broke it over the side of his head causing a lot of blood. The wound needed two stitches. Picture: Sanook Later a less than contrite Chaloey - still not wearing a mask - told the police that the official had overstepped his authority. It was ridiculous that he was being threatened with jail for simply not wearing a mask. He was charged with assault, assault of a civil servant doing their duty and a charge related to not following the rules about the pandemic. Sarot said that most members of the public and the traders in the markets understood the reasons for the rules, but there were some who just would not listen and had to be constantly reminded. Sarot's municipal boss visited him with a presentation basket saying that it was important that the public listen to officials and cooperate. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-05-22 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulmercke Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Thug. Should be jailed for six months. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LeamchabangLarry Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 There it is.... the finger pointed directly at him It's officially official 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisinth Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: The suspect was drinking a coffee in a market shop. In his defense, it is really difficult drinking a cup of coffee while wearing a mask, regardless to what he had done before. Jobworths should, IMO, use a certain amount of common sense when confronting people like this. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eddiebat Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 hours ago, bulmercke said: Thug. Should be jailed for six months. 3 hours ago, bulmercke said: Thug. Should be jailed for six months. Yes the Official thug should be jailed for six months there's no Law on any statute book in Thailand that say a person has to wear a mask in public...if you have a law post it here and show everyone. The officials are overstepping the powers and Kudos to the guy for doing what he did perhaps other like minded power hungry officials will think twice before intimidating members of the Public show me the Lawwwwww 8 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 54 minutes ago, chrisinth said: In his defense, it is really difficult drinking a cup of coffee while wearing a mask, regardless to what he had done before. Jobworths should, IMO, use a certain amount of common sense when confronting people like this. Did you actually read the article? If so you'll see the idiot instigated a confrontation and then smashed his cup over the officers head. Hard to see where the officer didn't use common sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, eddiebat said: Yes the Official thug should be jailed for six months there's no Law on any statute book in Thailand that say a person has to wear a mask in public...if you have a law post it here and show everyone. The officials are overstepping the powers and Kudos to the guy for doing what he did perhaps other like minded power hungry officials will think twice before intimidating members of the Public show me the Lawwwwww Read the OP carefully and see what the idiot violent assaulter has been charged with. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 A bit confused now who is not wearing a mask???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaoloR Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Did you actually read the article? If so you'll see the idiot instigated a confrontation and then smashed his cup over the officers head. Hard to see where the officer didn't use common sense. The willingness that members have to post without reading the article clearly, is a constant source of amusement. Whoops! maybe they do read and are just unable to comprehend! 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Did you actually read the article? If so you'll see the idiot instigated a confrontation and then smashed his cup over the officers head. Hard to see where the officer didn't use common sense. 2 hours ago, Baerboxer said: In his defense, it is really difficult drinking a cup of coffee while wearing a mask, regardless to what he had done before. Jobworths should, IMO, use a certain amount of common sense when confronting people like this. Was the guy just a naturally angry person? Possibly. Was he angered by over reaction by the official? Again possibly. If, hypothetically, I was in the official's shoes, I would have not been inside the radius of the thrown contents of the coffee mug let alone the swing radius of the cup itself. Dare I say it, I would have used common sense. But just to clarify, regardless of what happened prior to the incident, the attacker was in the wrong and deservedly needed to be punished for it. Peace................... Edit: @Baerboxer, apols, I don't know what I did, but your name is in the second quote box (that was my original quote). Don't know how to change that. Edited May 22, 2020 by chrisinth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, eddiebat said: Yes the Official thug should be jailed for six months there's no Law on any statute book in Thailand that say a person has to wear a mask in public...if you have a law post it here and show everyone. The officials are overstepping the powers and Kudos to the guy for doing what he did perhaps other like minded power hungry officials will think twice before intimidating members of the Public show me the Lawwwwww New regulations have been posted and depending on which province you're in anyone Thai/Farang not wearing a mask in public can be fined or jailed or both for not wearing a mask. Fine ranges from up to 20,000 baht to up to 100,000 baht in Chonburi/Pattaya. The US Embassy web site also has posted that all it's citizens in Thailand are required to wear masks in public. Edited May 22, 2020 by Tony125 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Read the OP carefully and see what the idiot violent assaulter has been charged with. Sedition ? Acts against the state? Government taking the <deleted>, wear the mask while drinking coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 Thai police later issued a mug shot. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AgMech Cowboy Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 If that's Sarot in the photo at the police station pointing a finger, I'm not surprised he was on the receiving end of a coffee cup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mr mr Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 jesus wept that 2nd picture is worth a thousand words. ok hold your head in shame. no lower than that show more respect. ok great. now i'll point at you in disgust. here we go. say cheese. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 7 hours ago, chrisinth said: In his defense, it is really difficult drinking a cup of coffee while wearing a mask, regardless to what he had done before. Jobworths should, IMO, use a certain amount of common sense when confronting people like this. Yep, kick him in the boll-cks before he has chance with the cup, then put his mask on. later go back and explain the error of his ways with an action replay, he may well not wear his mask but be sure he will put it on when he sees you coming Good reason to bring in online ticket sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, khaowong1 said: Seriously? after all the threads, news articles, discussions and comments you still remain oblivious as to why it is recommend we wear these masks during a pandemic? Clue: Its not for your own protection. Edited May 22, 2020 by richard_smith237 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 19 hours ago, webfact said: It was ridiculous that he was being threatened with jail for simply not wearing a mask. He was charged with assault, assault of a civil servant doing their duty and a charge related to not following the rules about the pandemic. Maybe now with the extra charges tagged on for assault he'll get the message ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilltom Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 19 hours ago, chrisinth said: In his defense, it is really difficult drinking a cup of coffee while wearing a mask, regardless to what he had done before. Jobworths should, IMO, use a certain amount of common sense when confronting people like this. How can u drink with a mask on???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Seriously? after all the threads, news articles, discussions and comments you still remain oblivious as to why it is recommend we wear these masks during a pandemic? Clue: Its not for your own protection. If your sick, and think you've got the damn woohoo flu, stay home. Why should I wear a mask to protect me from you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmyintmaung Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) On 5/22/2020 at 2:23 PM, eddiebat said: Yes the Official thug should be jailed for six months there's no Law on any statute book in Thailand that say a person has to wear a mask in public...if you have a law post it here and show everyone. The officials are overstepping the powers and Kudos to the guy for doing what he did perhaps other like minded power hungry officials will think twice before intimidating members of the Public show me the Lawwwwww Regulations issued under Section 9 of the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergency Situations http://www.mfa.go.th/main/contents/files/news3-20200329-164122-910029.pdf Edited May 23, 2020 by sanmyintmaung 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 21 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Seriously? after all the threads, news articles, discussions and comments you still remain oblivious as to why it is recommend we wear these masks during a pandemic? Clue: Its not for your own protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiebat Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 2:50 PM, Baerboxer said: Read the OP carefully and see what the idiot violent assaulter has been charged with. show me the laws that state that an official has the right to intimidate a member of the public to force wear a mask. I'm well aware of the assault charge it was in response to unlawful intimidation by a power hungry official and not for the first time. So he got what was coming to him. Now please show me the Laws that it is mandatory to wear a mask and don't be side stepping the issue show me the proof by posting the law, in Thai will do I can read Thai. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiebat Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 12 hours ago, sanmyintmaung said: Regulations issued under Section 9 of the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergency Situations http://www.mfa.go.th/main/contents/files/news3-20200329-164122-910029.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiebat Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) You can put anything into an Emergency Decree that doesn't mean its Lawful. And the word SHALL is very different from WILL MUST or Mandatory. shall [ʃal, ʃ(ə)l] VERB (in the first person) expressing the future tense. "this time next week I shall be in Scotland" · [more] New content will be added above the current area of focus upon selection "we shan't be gone long" expressing a strong assertion or intention. "they shall succeed" · [more] New content will be added above the current area of focus upon selection "you shall not frighten me out of this" expressing an instruction, command, or obligation. "every employer shall take all practicable steps to ensure the safety of employees" · [more] New content will be added above the current area of focus upon selection "you shall not steal" used in questions indicating offers or suggestions. Shall is NOT a Lawful Order it is an Expression. must- [must-] COMBININGFORM used to form adjectives and nouns denoting things that are essential or highly recommended. "a must-visit destination" · [more] New content will be added above the current area of focus upon selection mandatory [ˈmandət(ə)ri] ADJECTIVE required by law or mandate; compulsory. "wearing helmets was made mandatory for pedal cyclists" synonyms: obligatory · compulsory · binding · required · inescapable · unavoidable · requisite · necessary · essential · imperative Mandatory means by Law Did you see the word Mandatory in the in the Emergency Decree? Correct Nor did I see the word Mandatory So the Thug Official had no right whatsoever to intimidate the poor old lottery seller by LAW. If I was the seller I would Lawyer up Quick Rights Infringed and Violated by Thug Official UN Human Rights Thai Constitutional Rights Criminal Violations Physical and Psychological Intimidation Harassment by a Govt Official False arrest by trying to detain him etc etc And your Defence (Shall) Ha Edited May 24, 2020 by eddiebat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 2:23 PM, eddiebat said: Yes the Official thug should be jailed for six months there's no Law on any statute book in Thailand that say a person has to wear a mask in public...if you have a law post it here and show everyone. Under the emergency decree powers provincial governors can introduce laws like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 13 hours ago, khaowong1 said: If your sick, and think you've got the damn woohoo flu, stay home. Why should I wear a mask to protect me from you? We are not asking you to wear a mask to protect yourself. We are asking you to wear a mask to protect us in case you are infectious, which you can be without even knowing it. Google asymptomatic. Tell me , would you be happy to be wheeled into an operating theatre for surgery, where all the medical staff wore street clothes and no surgical masks? Same principle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) I wear a mask as I don't want to take the risk to pay a fine. I do everything my Immigration Officer tell me to do to get my extension, as I don't want not to get an extension. I abide to everything here in Thailand and that since 2000. Maybe one day too much will be too much, and I will book a one-way ticket. Edited May 24, 2020 by luckyluke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Number Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 2:23 PM, eddiebat said: Yes the Official thug should be jailed for six months there's no Law on any statute book in Thailand that say a person has to wear a mask in public...if you have a law post it here and show everyone. The officials are overstepping the powers and Kudos to the guy for doing what he did perhaps other like minded power hungry officials will think twice before intimidating members of the Public show me the Lawwwwww The law is called State of Emergency look it up replaces statutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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