Tears and heartbreak as flight ban keeps farang-Thai families apart

[craigieboy1973]

My wife cheated on me and i found out the lockout has been best thing for me .... but saddened my friends families are broken apart hope things change soon 

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

What the hell is wrong with these people leaving their "loved ones" in the 1st place when there's a pandemic going on? Surely if they really cared about their husbands/wives or kids they wouldn't be going overseas in the 1st place to leave them, would they? Unless it was an absolute emergency that they had to do that for some reason.

Not a very smart comment....  I'm sure your teachers taught you 'brain into gear, mouth into neutral' or... you must have read the quote 'its better to remain silent and let people think you are an idiot than to speak out and remove all doubt'.....   this is one of those discussions !!!...  leave it for those less willing to express their galactic fookwittery !

 

 

 

Edited May 23, 2020 by richard_smith237

[Mattd]

1 minute ago, bbi1 said:

What made you think it's a good idea to leave your family in a pandemic?

Some people are not in the fortunate position of having a choice.

[bbi1]

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

Not a very smart comment....  I'm sure your teachers taught you 'brain into gear, mouth into neutral' or... you must have read the quote 'its better to remain silent and let people think you are an idiot than you speak out and remove all doubt'.....   this is one of those discussions !!!...  leave it for those less willing to express their galactic fookwittery !

Why not smart? Who the hell leaves their loved-ones in a pandemic? Am I right in guessing you're one of them b your comment?

[fredwiggy]

Just now, bbi1 said:

Why not smart? Who the hell leaves their loved-ones in a pandemic? Am I right in guessing you're one of them b your comment?

Did you read my comment? They left BEFORE the pandemic started.

[bbi1]

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

They left before it started

So, why not come back to Thailand asap to be with their families when they knew about the virus since January and how bad it was? They had nearly 3 months to come back to Thailand before things were shut down.

[david_dyer]

41 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Work commitments, meetings in other countries?

Yes, still have contracts to fill outside of thailand, yes family comes first, but work still has to be done. 

[pineapple01]

Working from Home. Our Son gets calls from his Drivers Wives to put the Grandkid on Vid playing her little Piano thing. Just make the most of it n stop whingin.

[cornishcarlos]

4 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

Why not smart? Who the hell leaves their loved-ones in a pandemic? Am I right in guessing you're one of them b your comment?

 

I left just before the "pandemic" and now can't get back like thousands of others.

Not many would have chosen to leave after knowing that they wouldn't get back in.

[Greg O]

They left sometimes weeks before any lockdown and simply got caught in the middle then other countries such as UAE stopped departures of regular flights when they locked down after Thailand. Emirates and Etihad halted flights for a while etc, etc. 

The repatriation flights are an exception and allowed in.

[ChiangMaiThai]

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

Less people allowed entry equals a reduced chance of further infections.

 

Which part of this are you struggling with ?

Don Mega takes the prize as the most obnoxious TV troll in a long while. 

 

1. You're overseas separated from your family

2. You want to be with your family

3. You are willing to enter a 2-week government run quarantine upon your return

4. The Thai govt says NO

5. It's nonsensical, which is par for the course here

 

Which part of this are you struggling with?

[richard_smith237]

13 minutes ago, Mattd said:

No, I disagree, those that are here are stuck between a rock and a hard place, go to work and risk not being able to return, or stay at home and use up valuable savings whilst risking not being able to return to work if the employer gets antsy.

Not a nice predicament at all.

I suspect that a lot of people are going to be in a difficult situation as time goes on, there will be retirees whose pension plans will have gone to the wall due to investments falling, this whole thing is going to hurt people badly.

Indeed...  this could have huge implications for many families.

 

I now have great concern for my future standard of living in Thailand, with regards to rational work.

If Thailand is going to impose these travel bans each time there is a surge, or a second wave, a third wave etc then living in Thailand is not an option and returning to the UK becomes a comfortable option - one I'm seriously considering.

 

Its difficult to know what will happen. But I do know that if my Wife and Son were in the UK, In all likelihood, no matter where I was when lock-down kicked off, I'd be with them now. (if someone wants to counter this with stats of Thailand vs UK - the point was addressed much earlier in the thread).

 

 

[Mattd]

Just now, bbi1 said:

So, why not come back to Thailand asap to be with their families when they knew about the virus since January and how bad it was? They had nearly 3 months to come back to Thailand before things were shut down.

Open your mind, people do not just leave for pleasure, they will be a lot of folks who work overseas, offshore etc. etc. that left to go to work, what are they supposed to do?

Once at work, it would not be a simple task of popping on a plane back to here, especially if on a ship, platform, rig etc.

I know of Thais that are stuck in UAE with no way of getting home either.

Not every farang here is retired.

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

So, why not come back to Thailand asap to be with their families when they knew about the virus since January and how bad it was? They had nearly 3 months to come back to Thailand before things were shut down.

There are enough comments which address the point you have tried to make a couple of times. 

Please read them, the moronic repetition of ignorance is shaming your intellect or lack thereof.

 

 

 

Edited May 23, 2020 by richard_smith237

[garzhe]

Another example of xenophobia, it wont go away whatever the circumstances

[Aussieroaming]

50 minutes ago, david_dyer said:

The restrictions are undestood but its still very difficult when stuck in australia and wife stuck in thailand with baby due on the 20th. Hopefully the restrictions will be lifted in a reasonable time frame

Sorry to hear about that. Will Australia let you leave if Thailand opens up? And what international airlines are flying out of Australia with the country locked down? I'm locked out from seeing my wife since Jan, as others on the forum are, but no children due though. All the best to you in your circumstance.

[bbi1]

1 minute ago, Mattd said:

Open your mind, people do not just leave for pleasure, they will be a lot of folks who work overseas, offshore etc. etc. that left to go to work, what are they supposed to do?

If I were them, I'd do whatever I could to be with my family during a time of a SERIOUS DEADLY VIRUS situation. People knew about it's seriousness since January. The flights didn't stop until end of March or early April. That's 3 whole months to get back to your family. They could've asked for leave from work or if not, just left their work and hopped on the plane. What is more important, their family or work. In your scenario above it's clearly not their family.

[bbi1]

2 hours ago, Malawi said:

If they loved their families so much why did they leave them in the first place?

It's obvious they didn't.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, bbi1 said:

If I were them, I'd do whatever I could to be with my family during a time of a SERIOUS DEADLY VIRUS situation. People knew about it's seriousness since January. The flights didn't stop until end of March or early April. That's 3 whole months to get back to your family. They could've asked for leave from work or if not, just left their work and hopped on the plane. What is more important, their family or work. In your scenario above it's clearly not their family.

Why do some people. like you. have to try and make others feel far worse than they already are? They came here for advice or an ear and you and a couple of others have to keep driving the nail in deeper. Others have explained to you in a way that a teenager could understand, and you still go on. If they could have been back, they would have. Some have to make money for their families and don't have the luxury of a good retirement to fall back on. Some don't want to lose their jobs in an unforgiving job environment for the same reason. Give it a rest.

[Skallywag]

I worked with hundreds of people in Alaska that were on 3 or 5 or 12 month contracts.  This is before good internet, skype, and all that in the 90's. 

So obviously they did not get to see their families at all during that time

At least nowadays they have facetime or skype.

Count your blessings, things will get better, and keep on keepin on

[cornishcarlos]

1 minute ago, bbi1 said:

If I were them, I'd do whatever I could to be with my family during a time of a SERIOUS DEADLY VIRUS situation. People knew about it's seriousness since January. The flights didn't stop until end of March or early April. That's 3 whole months to get back to your family. They could've asked for leave from work or if not, just left their work and hopped on the plane. What is more important, their family or work. In your scenario above it's clearly not their family.

 

You are giving Don Mega a run for the title...

 

No-one knew "the seriousness" in January, as Thailand only had it's first case late January.

You've already been told several times that it's not just a case of dropping everything and returning, for most people..

I'm an engineer on a boat, can't just down tools and go home !!

[zyphodb]

Well, the large, living under a bridge members are really excelling themselves on this thread aren't they? The total lack of empathy or compassion in this thread astounds even me, who is quite old, cynical and jaded, You guys in this situation, "there but for the grace of Buddha go I", just shouldn't bother to reply, because all it's gonna do is wind you up even more...

[david_dyer]

3 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

If I were them, I'd do whatever I could to be with my family during a time of a SERIOUS DEADLY VIRUS situation. People knew about it's seriousness since January. The flights didn't stop until end of March or early April. That's 3 whole months to get back to your family. They could've asked for leave from work or if not, just left their work and hopped on the plane. What is more important, their family or work. In your scenario above it's clearly not their family.

There are some of us with government contracts that prohibit the idea of just quiting and going home as many governments imposed travel restrictions on employees far before international boarders closed.

 

Perhaps a better idea, is for people that cant be with families to look after each other....ideas??

[Mattd]

2 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

If I were them, I'd do whatever I could to be with my family during a time of a SERIOUS DEADLY VIRUS situation. People knew about it's seriousness since January. The flights didn't stop until end of March or early April. That's 3 whole months to get back to your family. They could've asked for leave from work or if not, just left their work and hopped on the plane. What is more important, their family or work. In your scenario above it's clearly not their family.

I give up, you obviously have no idea of the real world.

1. This virus is not deadly serious, I will not go in to the why now, as it has been done, lets take that debate up in a year or so time, when the actual figures are known.

2. Do you think that somebody offshore can just get off? Right now there are hundreds of thousands of seafarers stuck with no sign of relief, read the news.

3. Again, I reiterate, not everybody has the financial means to not work and also risk not being able to work for months, maybe years to come.

[richard_smith237]

13 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Not a very smart comment....  I'm sure your teachers taught you 'brain into gear, mouth into neutral' or... you must have read the quote 'its better to remain silent and let people think you are an idiot than you speak out and remove all doubt'.....   this is one of those discussions !!!...  leave it for those less willing to express their galactic fookwittery !

Why not smart? Who the hell leaves their loved-ones in a pandemic? Am I right in guessing you're one of them b your comment?

OK... you proved the point - not very smart !!!

 

When did the WHO announce this as a global pandemic? -- the answer to that may prevent you from making more hideously idiotic comments.

 

 

 

 

[david_dyer]

9 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:

Sorry to hear about that. Will Australia let you leave if Thailand opens up? And what international airlines are flying out of Australia with the country locked down? I'm locked out from seeing my wife since Jan, as others on the forum are, but no children due though. All the best to you in your circumstance.

Under a defence contract so even after the boarders open, still have to wait for government restrictions to be lifted

[cornishcarlos]

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

the answer to that may prevent you from making more hideously idiotic comments.

 

I doubt it...

[richard_smith237]

Just now, bbi1 said:

The kids should understand their dad/mum doesn't care about them at all, as they were too selfish not to be with them in a deadly virus pandemic and decided it's wise to be overseas when they had 3 months or more to return home.

These are surely the comment of someone without children...  The world thanks you, the future does not dip into your gene pool !!!!

[Odysseus123]

9 minutes ago, ChiangMaiThai said:

Don Mega takes the prize as the most obnoxious TV troll in a long while.

I don't think that Don Mega is a troll..however unpopular his views might be.

 

As other folks have said-this is an "opinion" style forum and we can't all be Mr Popular.

 

My view is that families being separated for long periods of time is not a good thing tho' it is surprising how resilient people can be in a crisis-it's a feature of the human condition.

 

Hopefully things will start getting sorted out soon.

[bbi1]

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Why do some people. like you. have to try and make others feel far worse than they already are? They came here for advice or an ear and you and a couple of others have to keep driving the nail in deeper.

Who came here for "advice"? The OP posted a news article which I and everyone else is discussing and offering our opinions about it. This is called "free speech". We are not in North Korea where there's no free speech. I think you'd be better in North Korea if you don't like free speech and opinions.

Edited May 23, 2020 by bbi1