UK says PM's adviser did not break lockdown rules with 400 km drive

[evadgib]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Now the people who should be afraid are those who reveal wrong doing by somebody with friends in high places.

 

Disgusting.

I'll remain open minded until any alleged wrongdoing has been established beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Where did you stand when plod & the BBC pulled a similar stunt on Cliff Richard? Have you forgotten the outcome?

 

'But that's different'?

Not yet it isn't!

[Yinn]

48 minutes ago, vogie said:

Shock, horror and go to the foot of our stairs, what father would not want to be with his child whilst his mother was ill. 

Ill with COVID19!!!!

 

exactly the reason FOR lockdown.

 

 

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

as his wife was ill with COVID-19 and there was a "high likelihood" that Cummings would himself become unwell.

Gee. 

[vogie]

Just now, Phil McCaverty said:

Most decent people who find Cummings' actions disgusting. Nothing to do with Brexit.

Most decent people would say that taking care of your wife and child is very acceptable, but trying to score cheap political points out of it is nothing worse than despicable.

[Phil McCaverty]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

I'll remain open minded until any alleged wrongdoing has been established beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Where did you stand when plod & the BBC pulled a similar stunt on Cliff Richard? Have you forgotten the outcome?

 

'But that's different'?

Not yet it isn't!

Yet more deflection. Is that all you've got?

[Logosone]

It's very hard to browse OK Cupid properly with a toddler distracting you.

 

Neil Ferguson would understand.

[evadgib]

9 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Glad you find it funny. most people think its disgusting.

You know exactly what I meant and that I was right.

[Phil McCaverty]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

Most decent people would say that taking care of your wife and child is very acceptable, but trying to score cheap political points out of it is nothing worse than despicable.

But he wasn't taking care of his child, was he. He could have taken care of the child at home. He drove 260 miles to foist his kid on his parents.

[elliss]

9 minutes ago, sungod said:

Shock, horror. Family with family emergency ask other members of the family to help.

 

 The Law is  quite clear . 

   What ever one's  Political position , or political party .

    Justice , must be carried out . 

     Resignation , expected soon ..

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I'll remain open minded until any alleged wrongdoing has been established beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Where did you stand when plod & the BBC pulled a similar stunt on Cliff Richard? Have you forgotten the outcome?

 

'But that's different'?

Not yet it isn't!

The accusation you laid was far from any evidence of you remaining open minded.

 

 

 

 

[Phil McCaverty]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

You know exactly what I meant and that I was right.

I've no idea what you meant, I just found your post extremely childish.

[RuamRudy]

43 minutes ago, vogie said:

Sometimes government guidelines take second place when there is family problems, if he thought that his son would be better cared for 260 miles away it says to me 'good father' 

As Michael Gove said "caring for your family is not a crime"

Then again, taking class A drugs is not a crime if you are Michael Gove. 

[sungod]

1 minute ago, elliss said:

 

 The Law is  quite clear . 

   What ever one's  Political position , or political party .

    Justice , must be carried out . 

     Resignation , expected soon ..

 

 

OK, you have kids?  Leave them with social services/Barnardos or your mum and dad...... ?

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

Most decent people would say that taking care of your wife and child is very acceptable, but trying to score cheap political points out of it is nothing worse than despicable.

Most people are obeying the lockdown and expect others, regardless of who they are, to do likewise.

 

 

[KhaoNiaw]

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

Most decent people would say that taking care of your wife and child is very acceptable, but trying to score cheap political points out of it is nothing worse than despicable.

Why did he and his wife hide it? And what about Kinnock - do you have a problem with one of them, both of them or neither of them?

[vogie]

Just now, RuamRudy said:

Then again, taking class A drugs is not a crime if you are Michael Gove. 

Going off on another tangent RR.????????

[Phil McCaverty]

Just now, sungod said:

OK, you have kids?  Leave them with social services/Barnardos or your mum and dad...... ?

Employ an agency nurse and keep the kid at home.

[vogie]

1 minute ago, KhaoNiaw said:

Why did he and his wife hide it? And what about Kinnock - do you have a problem with one of them, both of them or neither of them?

Yes, no, and all of them.

[Logosone]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Most people are obeying the lockdown and expect others, regardless of who they are, to do likewise.

 

 

Neil Ferguson wasn't.

[evadgib]

4 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Yet more deflection. Is that all you've got?

By being open minded and exposing hypocrisy?

Feel free to weigh in with my opinion on this matter when any of you work out what it actually is.

[sungod]

1 minute ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Employ an agency nurse and keep the kid at home.

So that's what you would do? You must be a terrible parent, if you have kids at all.

[Phil McCaverty]

Just now, evadgib said:

By being open minded and exposing hypocrisy?

Feel free to weigh in with my opinion on this matter when any of you work out what it actually is.

I think we need to wait for you to work that out yourself first.

[Phil McCaverty]

Just now, sungod said:

So that's what you would do? You must be a terrible parent, if you have kids at all.

Now you're making zero sense. Keeping the kid at home with you and employing professional help isn't the best option?

[david555]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Shock, horror and go to the foot of our stairs, what father would not want to be with his child whilst his mother was ill. Well done Dom for being a decent human being. All your fiercist critics on here would have done exactly the same, infact they wouldn't be much of a father if they didn't. But hey let's make it political and crucify the guy for being decent.

For how many others this would / could be the same case....,? And because lockdown not allowed ?……But oho....not for members of "the happy few "so called leaders who should be exemplary ones to the common people 

 

What another nice example from ultimate arrogance , sure some blond guy gone be " grilled "once more ….????

Edited May 23, 2020 by david555

[evadgib]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The accusation you laid was far from any evidence of you remaining open minded.

An accusation surfacing via your much loved and extremely impartial MSM?

[sungod]

1 minute ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Now you're making zero sense. Keeping the kid at home with you and employing professional help isn't the best option?

You've made no sense since you started, no family would choose a stranger over family. Families need families in times of crisis, its the primary source of care. You really have no idea do you?

[Phil McCaverty]

Just now, sungod said:

You've made no sense since you started, no family would choose a stranger over family. Families need families in times of crisis, its the primary source of care. You really have no idea do you?

Any parent would chose to keep their child at home with them, particularly when it could be Covid+ rather than drive it 260 miles to dump it on aged grandparents.

 

And, yes I do have children, here's one of them, currently in charge of a Covid ward in a UK hospital. I haven't spoken to her since this story broke, but I'm sure she will be as disgusted as me.

 

                  

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, sungod said:

You've made no sense since you started, no family would choose a stranger over family. Families need families in times of crisis, its the primary source of care. You really have no idea do you?

Would that also be the case for someone not befriended to the PM? Should he be allowed to drive 300 Mike's while he is under suspicious of being infected, his wife confirmed of being infected, to drop off a kid at 2 people in the risk group?

 

It is clearly a violation of the rules they themselves implemented.

[sungod]

1 minute ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Any parent would chose to keep their child at home with them, particularly when it could be Covid+ rather than drive it 260 miles to dump it on aged grandparents.

 

And, yes I do have children, here's one of them, currently in charge of a Covid ward in a UK hospital. I haven't spoken to her since this story broke, but I'm sure she will be as disgusted as me.

 

                  

I doubt the kid was dumped, I'm sure the grandparents were more than willing as that's what families do. I wouldnt hesitate to do the same with my children.

 

Good luck to your daughter,

 

 

 

 

[sungod]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Would that also be the case for someone not befriended to the PM? Should he be allowed to drive 300 Mike's while he is under suspicious of being infected, his wife confirmed of being infected, to drop off a kid at 2 people in the risk group?

 

It is clearly a violation of the rules they themselves implemented.

I'm not defending Cummings, not a great fan. I'm defending his action as another parent.

[vogie]

11 minutes ago, david555 said:

For how many others this would / could be the same case....,? And because lockdown not allowed ?……But oho....not for members of "the happy few "so called leaders who should be exemplary ones to the common people 

 

What another nice example from ultimate arrogance , sure some blond guy gone be " grilled "once more ….????

But that is the point David, it appears to be an all party make it up as you go along, but in Doms case he chose his family which I'm sure most of us would have done, families come before politics.

Most of the posters on here if they were honest would have done exactly the same thing, I know I would, I would have walked the 260 miles if I had to, and if you are a father you would have done so too.