Popular Post webfact Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 Life after coronavirus: future of Thai tourism industry is in Chinese hands, and phones -- Southeast Asia’s tourism giant is looking to China to refloat its battered travel industry -- Partnerships with digital firms and social media influencers are among the strategies to win back Chinese visitors Vincent Vichit-Vadakan Thai health officials take the temperatures of foreign tourists to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus in February, before flights were grounded. Photo: EPA Few people are as aware of the devastation the novel coronavirus has inflicted on international travel as Chattan Kunjara Na Ayudhya, a deputy governor of the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT). Tourism accounts for 12 per cent of his country’s GDP (up to 20 per cent when ancillary services are included) and provides jobs for almost one in 10 Thais, according to the International Labour Organisation. But with borders closed and planes grounded across the world, this pillar of the Thai economy faces an uncertain future. The TAT’s best-case scenariois that 14-16 million people will visit this year, more than the 8.5 million projected by the University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce, but far fewer than last year’s record of 39.8 million, a figure that made it far and away Southeast Asia’s most popular tourism destination. Full story: https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/lifestyle-culture/article/3085716/life-after-coronavirus-future-thai-tourism-industry -- SCMP 2020 05-25 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rasmus5150 Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 In 10-15 years you cannot label the Chinese as tourists anymore in Thailand. They will be "Pisao and Pichai" - Big Sister and Big Brother. I know the Chinese is a big market, and that 1 in 4 Intl. tourist is from China - and polls will probably say that this will rise over the next years. But that's not because there will be more Chinese tourists arriving, but the other 3 in 4 tourists (European, US, Australia) will not show up here anymore. Nobody wants to see Maya Bay Madness or Seafood Buffet Slaughter. 68 11 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 There will not be many coming this year.Home tourism being promoted by China. Thais also need to look inward for tourism. People do not want to get on aeroplanes to go on holiday and it will stay that way for some time. 31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 Get ready for some serious fleecing when it opens to make back that baht 21 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Relocated Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, webfact said: future of Thai tourism industry is in Chinese hands Sounds like life of dung beetle rely on elephant's dropping. Better to find different way to survive. 26 1 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCP108 Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 So, they want to attract social media influencers. Does that mean they will stop going after such people for working in Thailand without a work permit? Some farangs have been threatened with deportation if they don't demonetize their online videoblog channels. 10 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, JCP108 said: So, they want to attract social media influencers. Does that mean they will stop going after such people for working in Thailand without a work permit? Some farangs have been threatened with deportation if they don't demonetize their online videoblog channels. Which ones? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: Do they really want more of those commie virus spreaders back, most of the Thais hate dealing with them. Whatsoever "most of the Thais feel" is of no account. The people at the top of government, and the people at the top of its agencies like TAT, have strong ethnic, family and commercial ties with China. That's what counts. 53 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 my "before the end of June wager" is looking good https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1165606-thailand-looking-at-quarantine-waiver-for-selected-tourists/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GAZZPA Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Thailand said: There will not be many coming this year.Home tourism being promoted by China. Thais also need to look inward for tourism. People do not want to get on aeroplanes to go on holiday and it will stay that way for some time. We can only guess but I would think that people all over the world will be recovering from the financial situation caused by the pandemic, therefore the first thing people will do is to re establish their living standard at home before they even think of travelling overseas. Thailand will have to adjust quickly. I think its a perfect time to invest in development for the government, this will generate a lot of jobs and tax payments. relying on foreign money is not going to happen in the near future. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Whatsoever "most of the Thais feel" is of no account. The people at the top of government, and the people at the top of its agencies like TAT, have strong ethnic, family and commercial ties with China. That's what counts. I suspect the tourist spending is really the point including tourists from any country. But the reality is that tourists from China come to LOS in very big numbers and that equates to massive funds coming coming into the Thai economy from spending, accommodation, ground travel etc. Much much bigger than any other country. Incoming tourism generates about 20% all funds coming into the Thai economy, a massive slice of these funds come from China. Also important, tourism (massive numbers from China) directly/indirectly provides paid work for around 3 million Thai people. That money feeds and clothes Thai families and pays school fees, puts gasoline in the tank of the family motorcycle etc. 10 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trillian Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: What is it with all these commie lovers on here. Must be a lot of TVF members that are PRC paid stooges. Whether you like it or not the reality is that China is the largest, most influential and closest economy to Thailand that has the potential to stimulate and expand the Thai economy in a massive way, to ignore them or try to distance the country from them would be economic suicide. And the fact that Thailand is already home to huge numbers of Chinese and already established, highly successful Thai/Chinese families, supports that even further...politics doesn't even enter into the picture. 18 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baansgr Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 China's economy is down the crapper...they ain't gonna be travelling too much. 13 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterb0576 Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Thailand said: There will not be many coming this year.Home tourism being promoted by China. Thais also need to look inward for tourism. People do not want to get on aeroplanes to go on holiday and it will stay that way for some time. Also the 14 day isolation in a government hotel is not appealing to most. Most chienese I speak to are not spending on luxury item such as holidays abroad. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCP108 Posted May 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, tribalfusion001 said: Which ones? Let me dig through my video browsing history to remember. It was about a year or so ago. An older dude married to a Thai woman and living up North. He vlogs regularly. He had his channel monetized and was donating the proceeds to a local orphanage. Immigration found out and deemed it working on a retirement extension and threatened him with deportation if he didn't take the monetization off his channel. They also told him he couldn't go to fundraising events for the orphanage and substantially help out as that was volunteering without a work permit. I know a lot of digital nomads up in Chiang Mai are skirting that rule and operating in the slightly outlaw gray area of the work permit laws when they work online. This has been discussed in here before in other threads esp over in the visa part of the forum. 6 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trillian Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, findlay13 said: Thailand depends on "Big Brother" for Tourism. Thailand depends on "Big Brother" for water[Mekong Dams].What's next A vassel state? It's not that unusual for smaller countries to have a "special relationship" with a larger more powerful country, it happens the world over. Some of those smaller countries rely heavily on a "big brother" to supply military support and protection, electricity, finance etc and are a primary export destination, it's normal business in todays world. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LomSak27 Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just now, baansgr said: China's economy is down the crapper...they ain't gonna be travelling too much. This is all looking at 21/22 tourist season whether they, TAT, want to admit it, or not. China like every other country is hard hit and will be hit economically for a year or more, from the wuhan virus. They may talk like the chinese are going to come flooding back in August. That is not going to happen. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henryford Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, peterb0576 said: Also the 14 day isolation in a government hotel is not appealing to most. Most chienese I speak to are not spending on luxury item such as holidays abroad. The Chinese will be exempt from any travel restrictions to ensure they come back in their millions. Xi will "prove" the virus is gone from China. Edited May 25, 2020 by Henryford 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, scorecard said: Incoming tourism generates about 20% all funds coming into the Thai economy, a massive slice of these funds come from China. The problem is figures can be made to reflect what ever you want, the Chinese provide more of an income for the rich Thais who chauffeur them about and arrange where they eat & stay, much of this money going back to China - remember 0$-tourism ......!!! 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petedk Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, LomSak27 said: This is all looking at 21/22 tourist season whether they, TAT, want to admit it, or not. China like every other country is hard hit and will be hit economically for a year or more, from the wuhan virus. They may talk like the chinese are going to come flooding back in August. That is not going to happen. TAT are trying their best to make it happen: https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/travel-leisure/article/3085461/health-and-safety-come-first-tourism-thailand-when-travel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phetphet Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 I think the Chinese will come with their wallets ready, looking to buy businesses at bottom rate prices. They want to get their money out of China and can spot a desperate business a mile off. Economic takeover first. Then the hordes will come. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 A post with a "PRC paid stooges" allegation and the replies have been removed. If you have any actual evidence of "PRC paid stooges" posting on this forum, please forward it to support. Any further references like that may find your posting rights temporarily suspended. An offensive post and the replies have been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillian Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, scorecard said: Incoming tourism generates about 20% all funds coming into the Thai economy, a massive slice of these funds come from China. I don't believe the number is as high as that. Exports, including tourism, accounts for about 60% of Thailand's GDP whilst tourism itself is about 20% of the export figure. In total tourism is about 12% of Thai GDP. There seems to have been about 12 million Chinese visitors per year to Thailand before the virus began, I think that's about a quarter of all visitors or slightly over. If those things are true and spending is broadly similar, it looks as though Chinese tourism contributes around 3% to Thai GDP, give or take a % or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Geoffggi said: The problem is figures can be made to reflect what ever you want, the Chinese provide more of an income for the rich Thais who chauffeur them about and arrange where they eat & stay, much of this money going back to China - remember 0$-tourism ......!!! Yes of course, quite relevant point. The fact that a large proportion ends up in the pockets of the rich is rampant capitalism at work and unfortunately 'normal' for Thailand. But it's still true that several million Thai's get salaries from the Chinese tourism, albeit low, but it does keep food on their table. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, LomSak27 said: This is all looking at 21/22 tourist season whether they, TAT, want to admit it, or not. China like every other country is hard hit and will be hit economically for a year or more, from the wuhan virus. They may talk like the chinese are going to come flooding back in August. That is not going to happen. Free Mama Cup Pro-MO-Shunnnnn. One cup a day from 7-11 during 2 week quarantine Or paid 2000 bt upgrade for latex pillow to sleep nice during quarantine+ vat tax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mulambana Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, rasmus5150 said: In 10-15 years you cannot label the Chinese as tourists anymore in Thailand. They will be "Pisao and Pichai" - Big Sister and Big Brother. I know the Chinese is a big market, and that 1 in 4 Intl. tourist is from China - and polls will probably say that this will rise over the next years. But that's not because there will be more Chinese tourists arriving, but the other 3 in 4 tourists (European, US, Australia) will not show up here anymore. Nobody wants to see Maya Bay Madness or Seafood Buffet Slaughter. Western tourists are in fact sexobrimian migrants. They come to Thailand to find brides, engage in sex orgies and for economic advantage over their native lands. As long as Thailand is able to provide all the above three, they will come. But it is true that Thailand is becoming expensive or their native currencies are depreciating due to rampant desease and infections. People will be scared to engage in sex orgies due the virus for a while. The bride finding component will pick up as soon as the bars are open. Edited May 25, 2020 by Mulambana 1 3 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LomSak27 Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) Just now, ChakaKhan said: Free Mama Cup Pro-MO-Shunnnnn. One cup a day from 7-11 during 2 week quarantine Need to dig deeper. Two vacuum sealed pouches of dried Durian & a tin of mackerel. TAT will give coupons at the airport. Seal The Deal!! Edited May 25, 2020 by LomSak27 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChakaKhan Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, LomSak27 said: Need to dig deeper. Two vacuum sealed pouches of dried Durian & a tin of mackerel. TAT will give coupons at the airport. Seal The Deal!! Snail white? Jumbo bags of dried seaweed? woven baskets for all, to carry said items..converse chuck taylors with baby durians on them? tom yum goong mama? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Geoffggi Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, scorecard said: Yes of course, quite relevant point. The fact that a large proportion ends up in the pockets of the rich is rampant capitalism at work and unfortunately 'normal' for Thailand. But it's still true that several million Thai's get salaries from the Chinese tourism, albeit low, but it does keep food on their table. True, there is a small contribution to the grass roots of Thai society but the overall information is deceiving the public into thinking the Chinese are the saviours of all but they are not, it has been reported many times that the working class Thais want the farang back as they were the biggest contributor to the common Thai survival that consists of small shop keepers, small bar and restaurant owners etc. a fact the government continues to ignore ......!!! 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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