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Well...due to the 05 March restrictions, and subsequent restricting international flight arrivals, I stuck i the U.S. My long-stay expired in the middle of March. Any members have and information if there are rules and policies in place with Thailand Immigration for an automatic extension (as for those stuck inside Thailand)? Thanks.

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No idea what you actually had but I think you will have to start all over again.

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My retirement extension is due June 1st. 

Tripping over routine issues due to corona related travel problems.

 

Now looking at the Elite Visa (again!). 

 

Here's what they are telling me

 

" ...

You are still eligible but we can’t get you the visa by June 1.

Processing time is more like 3 to 4 weeks but if you send me the application form today, I’ll see what I can do to make it as fast as possible.

Thai Immigration shouldn’t count this as overstay since all visas for foreigners are extended until July 30.

..."

 

 

The kicker for me was that the insurance went up due to inflation and extra health related charges, So saving the $50k Baht a year for junk insurance makes more sense.

 

Back to the point of this posting -- The July 30th extension is a legitimate question.

And as usual with these types of things, I won't be sure who or what to believe until I've either experienced it firsthand or met someone who has. 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, kbb said:

Back to the point of this posting -- The July 30th extension is a legitimate question.

And as usual with these types of things, I won't be sure who or what to believe until I've either experienced it firsthand or met someone who has. 

The allowed stay until July 31st is for real and has been posted on the immigration website more than once.

There will certainly not be an overstay charged.

See: https://immigration.go.th/content/extend_alien?click=1

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I had a visit from suratthani immigration two weeks ago 3 officers all with uniforms on and ID cards they asked me for my passport they noted I had a 90 day renewal 6 June and told me I was okay until 31 July they then noted my extension of stay ( retirement ) ended last week of June and told me a I was also good until 31 July the one that looked like the boss gave me his name and telephone number and I gave him mine he told me any problems at Samui IO to get them to ring hi I live on the island of Koh Phangan. I also explained that my wife was on the same visa as my dependent but was stuck in the U.K. until flights resume back to Thailand unfortunately they said they could not offer advice accept that when she came back we would have to go to the IO in Samui and see what they recommend.

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12 minutes ago, HarrySeaman said:

The only potential problem is the requirement for you having 800,000 Bt untouched in a Thai bank account for 2 months before the visa is issued and 3 months after.  If you already have this then it isn't a problem.  If not you may have to get a 60 day extension (or two 30 day extensions) before the visa is issued.

 

The next year if you renew your Non-O visa you will have to have the untouched 800, 000 Bt in the bank 3 months before and 3 months after the visa is renewed.

There is no time requirement for obtaining conversion to non immigrant O visa and that allows a 90 day stay before it has to be extended which will require 2 months in account.

 

The requirement if using bank deposit for any one year extension of retirement is two months in account prior to extension and at least 3 months after at or above the 800k level - at other time at or above 400k

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2 hours ago, HarrySeaman said:

If you apply for a retirement visa outside of Thailand you are given a Non-OA visa.  The Non-OA visa requires you to have health insurance, which is very expensive to buy inside Thailand.  You can find the notice of this requirement and a list of acceptable Thai insurance companies here:

 

https://longstay.tgia.org/home/companiesoa


If you don't have the insurance from a company in the USA which will cover you for as long as you are in Thailand then don't apply for a visa in the USA.  If you have health and accident insurance from a company in the USA which will cover you for as long as you are in Thailand you can apply for a Thai retirement visa while you are in the USA, but I don't recommend doing so. 

 

Wait until you enter on a 30 day visa free entry then a couple of days later go to immigration and apply for a retirement visa.  Retirement visas issued in Thailand are Non-O visas, which do not have the odious health coverage requirement.

 

You won't be issued the new visa before the 30 days runs out but you will be allowed to pay 1900 Bt for a 30 day extension to give Thai Immigration long enough to consider whether or not to give you the visa.  You will be issued the new Non-O retirement visa just before the extension runs out. 

 

The only potential problem is the requirement for you having 800,000 Bt untouched in a Thai bank account for 2 months before the visa is issued and 3 months after.  If you already have this then it isn't a problem.  If not you may have to get a 60 day extension (or two 30 day extensions) before the visa is issued.

 

The next year if you renew your Non-O visa you will have to have the untouched 800, 000 Bt in the bank 3 months before and 3 months after the visa is renewed.

 

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Does marriage to Thai where 400,000 is required apply the same as a retirement visa with 800,000 requirement as you describe here?

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8 minutes ago, Ken126 said:

Does marriage to Thai where 400,000 is required apply the same as a retirement visa with 800,000 requirement as you describe here?

The requirement is 400k or more in bank account for 2 months prior to application (and at some locations keeping it at that level for the one month under review period).  

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14 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

The amnesty/extension does not apply to extensions.

 

 

Starting over will be required.

The correct answer is: The amnesty doesn't cover anyone outside Thailand. 

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