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30 minutes ago, Trolleen said:

Chinese tourist very profitable to Thailand

 

Sadly:

 

2018/19 not good because many chinese not come after Phuket boat disaster, and Don Muang video of tourist beat down.


2019/20 - not so good, no, exceptionally bad as Wuhan virus was brought into Thailand by Chinese tourist. causing lockdown, All tourist had to go and no one could come back. A total loss of a tourist season so far.

2020/21 many believe not auspicious for travel as world & chinese economy recovering from worldwide depression caused by wuhan pandemic. Low volume year.

 

Three not good years for Thailand tourism, which decided eggs in the celestial basket is the way to go. Maybe 2021/22 A winner! Long time to wait. Many business's will not make it. 
 

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25 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Actually it was the reverse. Immigration had to get the government to issue a ministerial notice to allow for the first amnesty in April. And again the cabinet had to approve the extension to July 31st.

Immigration did not follow the 1st admin-order in practice.  Many here cited it's language in advise to those applying, who were then denied their extensions (no embassy-letter, when none was required per the text). 

 

The 2nd order by the cabinet was what finally shut down Immigration's shenannigans.  We owe thanks to Richard Barrow, for his viral tweets, which helped get that done.

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11 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Immigration did not follow the 1st admin-order in practice. 

Immigration issued the first memorandum for the 30 day special extensions. They used an existing clause in the policer order for them.

 

12 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

 

The 2nd order by the cabinet was what finally shut down Immigration's shenannigans.

The first ministerial notice was approved by the cabinet on April 7th over 2 weeks after immigration sent a letter to the interior ministry requesting something be done.

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The government do not think about you and me.  It wants to do best for Thai people.

Restriction to buy a land. Why? Because 15 years ago the land cost nothing and majority of Thai have no money. If you let European come and buy they buy all land and leave Thai with nothing.

1. Just go to New Zealand and Australia immigration department and read requirement for retired in those countries.

2. Majority of  European people who comes to Pucket , krabi hua hin  buy a tour group same Chinese do. Chinese  go same European to the markets shops Chinese restaurants and spend a money. They are many and good for Thailand. That's why Thailand chose them because of a numbers.

5 years boy can understand it.

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Immigration do not deny extension in till you live in Thailand for one year. If you 're 30 years old and have good money from your family you can buy 5 years visa. If you do not like Thailand you can go to Vietnam. What a problem? Thailand do not ask about your job when you buy 5-20years visa. What is a problem? Tell me.

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Only if you're less than fifty, not married to a Thai woman, or, are poor.

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13 minutes ago, uhuh said:

1. Expats on an expat package.  

2. Digital nomads. They avoid taxes and social security,  in a typical European country it's maybe 30% taxes plus 30% social insurance. And, of course,  cost of living in a place like CM is cheaper - so in purchasing power your income is higher. 

3. English teachers, many of whom would be jobless anywhere else in the world. 

4. Rentiers saving taxes (e.g. Swiss)

5. Quite a few people in the hospitality industry. 

 

English teaching jobs here pay less than the lowest-paid jobs in Western countries, so that doesn't fit.  Yes, they could "mind a counter" at a store back home and earn more.

 

Those working remotely can either spend their income in Thailand, or another country, so much better for Thailand if they spend it here.  Same with rentiers.  They should be at the top of the "welcome wagon" list.

 

Who in hospitality earns more here than in the West?  Do you mean international-corporate managers posted here?  They have B-Visas from their company - same as those on "expat packages."  This small number of foreigners were not affected by the "crackdowns" against Westeners, which shuttered thousands of Thai businesses.

 

 

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5 hours ago, JackThompson said:

English teaching jobs here pay less than the lowest-paid jobs in Western countries, so that doesn't fit.  Yes, they could "mind a counter" at a store back home and earn more.

There is one factor that is important to take into account. The cost of living in Thailand is far lower than in the Western world. You would have a pretty miserable life in, say, New York on $1,000 a month. In Thailand, you are certainly not living the high life on such an income, but can be perfectly comfortable if living responsibly.

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9 hours ago, BritTim said:

There is one factor that is important to take into account. The cost of living in Thailand is far lower than in the Western world. You would have a pretty miserable life in, say, New York on $1,000 a month. In Thailand, you are certainly not living the high life on such an income, but can be perfectly comfortable if living responsibly.

That is true, but NYC jobs do not pay the national min-wage, so even after expenses, you can save more per-month if living frugally there.

The exception-case are those working online, who make the same regardless of where they live.  For them, Thailand offers a good balance of civilization + low-overhead.  This group of people is a Billion-Dollar ball laying on the field, getting fatter by the day as more switch to remote-work.  The Thai authorities not only refuse to pick it up and cash it in, but actively-block that income being spent here with 'crackdowns'.

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I was talking about those English teachers in Thailand that would not be able to find ANY job at home. Not even minding a counter 

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On 5/25/2020 at 7:46 AM, Trolleen said:

If people want to retire in England Sweden Norway they have almost no chance.

But they can do in Thailand for very small money. Only 800.000 baht.

What to complain?

Even less than that to complain about: the OP is talking about Europeans, and they don't need these 800'000B in a Thai bank. They just need a letter from their Embassy,.

Yearly renewal for European retirees in Thailand must be one of easiest to get in the World. 🙂

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1 hour ago, uhuh said:

I was talking about those English teachers in Thailand that would not be able to find ANY job at home. Not even minding a counter 

Just joking, then?  You need a Bachelors Degree to begin teaching English here.  Showing up for work is required for either job.  Modern cash-registers calculate change for the "math challenged." 

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