Road carnage: Less deaths on the Thai roads but let them drink alcohol again and it'll be back to a "new normal"

[rwill]

News flash!!! They never stopped drinking.  There were just less drivers on the road than normal.

[mr mr]

quite the predicament thailand has put themselves into. beep beep !!

[Bender Rodriguez]

I cant wait for the new songkran

[1Gringo]

fewer deaths, not less.  less is used for uncountable items;  deaths are clearly countable.

 

grammar is important.

[Damrongsak]

13 hours ago, missoura said:

While it appears that Thailand has been successful (so far) in flattening the Covid-19 curve, one important curve yet remains. As demonstrated by the photo below, many Thais (and a few tourists) are often confused about the differences between a curve and a safe passing zone.

 

This is a common occurrence that I have seen way too many times and the only thing that gets flattened on these curves are people. Eventually Thailand will reopen for business and when that occurs, expect this curve to peak once again…

The pickup driver is an idiot.  The fastest line would have been to undertake on the inside of the curve on the road shoulder.  He maybe could have nudged the truck driver onto or over the yellow line a bit and no oncoming traffic would mess with that big truck.  Taking the short line also saves fuel. 

[Airbagwill]

Just a load of froth with the usual rubbish "evidence" thrown in that does nothing more than reinforces bias.

 

[Moonlover]

On 5/27/2020 at 2:01 PM, Laza 45 said:

...the alcohol ban didn't appear to slow down my neighbours drinking.. but they partied all night because as my wife said.. they couldn't go home because of the curfew..  Maybe the curfew has a lot to do with the drop in road trauma..  just guessing.. 

My wife suggested that was the lack of Lao Khao that reduced the accident figures. It disappeared within a few days of the ban being imposed apparently and once it had been consumed, many people could not afford the more expensive spirits that were available. They, of course, were in limited supply and being sold at black market prices.

[Airbagwill]

On 5/27/2020 at 7:27 PM, 1Gringo said:

fewer deaths, not less.  less is used for uncountable items;  deaths are clearly countable.

 

grammar is important.

What is more important is a knowledge of English usage - and in day-to-day conversation one will often hear less used with plural countable nouns in informal spoken situations, but traditionally it is not considered to be correct.

In English their are no rules only conventions and grammar nazis

[Kwasaki]

On 5/27/2020 at 10:32 AM, webfact said:

Dr Suwannachai told the forum that alcohol consumption coupled with the rainy season and the return of schools would likely see the figures go back up again.

Whow this guy is sooooo clever. ????

[Airbagwill]

On 5/27/2020 at 1:49 PM, Bender Rodriguez said:

I cant wait for the new songkran

You do realise that during new Year and Song Khran the death rates usually lower than the national average?

[Airbagwill]

On 5/27/2020 at 8:26 PM, Damrongsak said:

The pickup driver is an idiot.  The fastest line would have been to undertake on the inside of the curve on the road shoulder.  He maybe could have nudged the truck driver onto or over the yellow line a bit and no oncoming traffic would mess with that big truck.  Taking the short line also saves fuel. 

This phot is repeatedly shown...as evidence it is meaningless - firstly it could happen in any country - there are no stats to back the allegation and it is actually impossible to see the whole picture.

furthermore 73% of deaths are motorcyclists not 4 wheeled private vehicles which turned out to be just as safe as in the USA.

What this photo is, is a classic example of information bias - all it does is reinforce erroneously held prejudgements.

E.G. it tries to support the myth that Thai drivers are inherently worse than their "superior" counterparts from the West. However this kind of allegedly irresponsible diving occurs world wide - the difference is that roads and emergency systems are simply not in place in Thailand to cope with even "normal" human errors in driving.

 

UK has one of the lowest death rates in the world......... 

Edited June 1, 2020 by Airbagwill

[Daffy D]

Looks like one lane of a dual carriageway.

 

[Airbagwill]

On 5/27/2020 at 6:43 AM, transam said:

Then Mrs.., Get the police out on the streets to control it, after all, you are controlling mask wearing, stopping folk coming to Thailand, so why can't you get the police to do the road carnage job.....?  ????

The RTP are completely unequiped and untrained to do anything about this and the court fines and prison system is totally inadequate to handle it too.

 

[transam]

13 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

The RTP are completely unequiped and untrained to do anything about this and the court fines and prison system is totally inadequate to handle it too.

 

Then the lady/Gov should tackle their problem.

[JCP108]

Could we see the total monthly number of deaths from all causes for the past six months, please?

[Rimmer]

A troll/slur has been removed

[Susco]

On 5/27/2020 at 1:51 PM, nahkit said:

On 5/27/2020 at 1:06 PM, missoura said:

While it appears that Thailand has been successful (so far) in flattening the Covid-19 curve, one important curve yet remains. As demonstrated by the photo below, many Thais (and a few tourists) are often confused about the differences between a curve and a safe passing zone.

 

This is a common occurrence that I have seen way too many times and the only thing that gets flattened on these curves are people. Eventually Thailand will reopen for business and when that occurs, expect this curve to peak once again…

 

Broken yellow centre lines so overtaking is allowed according to the highway code.

 

Obviously depends on what sort of view the driver has but I personally wouldn't be taking the chance.

 

Broken yellow line in a curve most likely mean this is a one way road, so there is no upcoming traffic.

[lee b]

In the direction this place is going people are going to have more freedom in Saudi Arabia.

[Airbagwill]

4 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Could we see the total monthly number of deaths from all causes for the past six months, please?

Unfortunately on past performance the collation and interpretation of figures in Thailand are completely misconstrued by the media, the authorities and subsequently by contributors to ThaiVisa.

[Airbagwill]

4 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Broken yellow line in a curve most likely mean this is a one way road, so there is no upcoming traffic.

The apparent incident - and it is not possible to accurately define what is groin on, is irrelevant to any serious conclusion about road safety in Thailand.......

[Airbagwill]

4 hours ago, transam said:

Then the lady/Gov should tackle their problem.

I don't think you fully understand the problem.

It would require a new police force

Redesigned roads

New and accurate equipment that is regularly calibrated by a recognised and independent body.

A totally revised court system.

A new driving licence system

Massive turn around in government policy etc etc

 

The post being that road safety in Thailand requires reform from the roots up.

In fact alcohol insolvent in RTIs is about 30% which is only marginally higher that the world average,    the truth is that just looking at single issues of road safety won't make the blindest difference - as 3 decades of pronouncements by successive governments has indisputably shown.

[Airbagwill]

4 hours ago, lee b said:

In the direction this place is going people are going to have more freedom in Saudi Arabia.

I can't see how this relates to road safety - do tyou mens the "freedom" to drive under the influence of alcohol?

[Mr Meeseeks]

6 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Broken yellow line in a curve most likely mean this is a one way road, so there is no upcoming traffic.

Lines are white in the middle of a one way road.

 

Yellow in the middle of a normal two-way road.

[Airbagwill]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Lines are white in the middle of a one way road.

 

Yellow in the middle of a normal two-way road.

White lines are used to denote LANES - the yellow indicates the middle of the road.

 

This is 2 way road but dashed yellow indicates it may be crossed over.

 

It is possible that te pickup can see perfectly well what is coming.

It should also be noted how wide the road is as well.

 

The photo is still an irrleent piece of rubbish as a comment on road safety.

Private 4-wheeled vehicles are also slightly less likely to have a fatal accident than in the USA

 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Airbagwill

[transam]

11 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

I don't think you fully understand the problem.

It would require a new police force

Redesigned roads

New and accurate equipment that is regularly calibrated by a recognised and independent body.

A totally revised court system.

A new driving licence system

Massive turn around in government policy etc etc

 

The post being that road safety in Thailand requires reform from the roots up.

In fact alcohol insolvent in RTIs is about 30% which is only marginally higher that the world average,    the truth is that just looking at single issues of road safety won't make the blindest difference - as 3 decades of pronouncements by successive governments has indisputably shown.

That's what I said in just a few words...????

[stouricks]

On 5/28/2020 at 1:27 AM, 1Gringo said:

fewer deaths, not less.  less is used for uncountable items;  deaths are clearly countable.

 

grammar is important.

Ooh Gringo, you'll be getting some stick for putting that.