An end may be in sight to separation of Thai-farang families

[Mama Noodle]

4 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

The visa exempt entry is for tourists.......... not people jobbing the system to avoid obtaining a visa.

 

No, that is your opinion on the matter. Just because a person chooses to do 30 day entries allowed by law does not mean they are 'jobbing' the system nor does it have any effect on you or 'everyone else' 

[kuzie57]

51 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

There was only 1 country who reacted perfect to the situation a couple of month ago, that was Taiwan.

The rest of the countries simply reacted too late and too slow. Fact !

Vietnam ring a bell?

[spiekerjozef]

36 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Taiwan closed borders to foreign nationals March 19 same date as NZ. AU and Vietnam along with many others March 20.

AU has had some of the strongest internal controls. On top of that state leaders have imposed their own controls.

Thailand closed borders March 26 yet have less deaths and positive tests than AU.

Agree, but Taiwan was the first country to ban flights from Wuhan.

That happened already in January.

[Canuck1966]

52 minutes ago, meechai said:

WTH?

 

Why can't parent of Thai children or Spouse of Thai citizen just be allowed to return on the same flights as Thai's being repatriated?

They have complained already the cost of a plane for so few were high...that would make cost less

 

Besides it is the year 2020 why does a parent of a "Thai" or the Spouse of a "Thai" not have any right to return? Especially given their current Visa allows it.

 

I assume that was a rhetorical question

We are lower than soi dog shìt

[rtco]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

even though it appears as if Thailand has won the battle against the virus, this is only the beginning and we have not yet overcome the war,

Paving the way for an extension to the State of Emergency

[Canuck1966]

48 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

So people on "Thai wife" extensions who don't have a work permit won't be allowed in. Why does one need to have a work permit to take care of one's family?

Have you not got it yet?

We are not welcome, they just put up with us............... for the time being

 

[Canuck1966]

23 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Yes, following the rules and doing what's allowed under immigration law is surely making it hard for you and 'everyone else' ????

I wouldn't even respond to some of the posters on here, they are absolutely mindless

[wmlc]

3 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Specifics, Thailand, you must be joking

Will be clear as mud, just like they like it

The hurdles to jump over will be 10 foot tall, and open to all kinds of interpretation 

Immigration officers will be rubbing their hands together in glee, looking forward to turning filthy foreigners away who haven't seen their wives/kids for months, for a teeny weenie indiscretion 

 

Wow! If you hate Thailand so much, I think no need to even read Thai Visa right ?

[Mama Noodle]

7 minutes ago, wmlc said:

Wow! If you hate Thailand so much, I think no need to even read Thai Visa right ?

 

Yes, the precursor to posting on Thaivisa is that one much be in lockstep with Thailand at all times, especially in the situation where Thailand blocks family members from joining their family because of a virus that has killed less than the amount of people who die on the roads here every 2 days. 

[Don Mega]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Yes, the precursor to posting on Thaivisa is that one much be in lockstep with Thailand at all times, especially in the situation where Thailand blocks family members from joining their family because of a virus that has killed less than the amount of people who die on the roads here every 2 days. 

The reason why there was/is so few deaths is because of the policies put in place.

A fact most seem to ignore whilst they are bleating me,me,me,me,me,me,me..................

[Canuck1966]

14 minutes ago, wmlc said:

Wow! If you hate Thailand so much, I think no need to even read Thai Visa right ?

I do actually as I've been following threads on when the passport office reopens. As soon as my daughter's passport reaches BKK I'll be on the first flight out of this sh*&%#)%

 

I won't entertain coming back until the usurpers have been overthrown

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

The reason why there was/is so few deaths is because of the policies put in place.

A fact most seem to ignore whilst they are bleating me,me,me,me,me,me,me..................

Yeah, real selfish and self centered for people with family to want to return to their family using the same quarantine rules that Thailand has imposed on their own people and pay for it themselves. 

 

But you know this, you are just trolling, exactly the same as you were doing in the last thread on the subject. 

[Canuck1966]

8 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Yes, the precursor to posting on Thaivisa is that one much be in lockstep with Thailand at all times, especially in the situation where Thailand blocks family members from joining their family because of a virus that has killed less than the amount of people who die on the roads here every 2 days. 

There are a lot of newbies who never got to enjoy Thailand before it was a totalitarian state

[crazykopite]

There are still more than 40,000 Thai citizens trying to return to there homeland these people have to be repatriated and placed into quarantine for 14 days in a couple of days it will be June . My wife is stuck in the U.K. I will be amazed if she manages to get back to Thailand by the beginning of August if there is no hope of that I am considering pulling the shutters down on the house and returning to the U.K. and not returning until 2021 at the earliest thankfully we have a U.K. base. I cannot see the Thai authorities allowing flights to resume until they have repatriated all Thais and they are extremely slow in doing that at the moment 

 

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, Canuck1966 said:

There are a lot of newbies who never got to enjoy Thailand before it was a totalitarian state

 

Obvious isnt it? Pre Thaksin was great and since then there's been coup's and governments and juntas and fake-elections and all the while immigration getting stricter and stricter on people who simply have families all the while absolutely nothing has changed for regular Thais. 

 

I feel sorry for anyone who has completely committed their lives and savings to this country.  

[TEFLKrabi]

1 hour ago, HashBrownHarry said:

I thought you were only allowed a certain amount of 'visa exempt' ( 30 days on arrival per year )? 

 

3 in any one year period rings a bell, but i may be wrong.

 

I did 30 day entries for 14 years but stopped when it was becoming scrutinized and now do Non O's.

The last time it was explained to me by immigration, you can only do 3 in/outs (same day) in a year but you can do 3 x 30 day exemptions in any 180 day period. 

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, TEFLKrabi said:

The last time it was explained to me by immigration, you can only do 3 in/outs (same day) in a year but you can do 3 x 30 day exemptions in any 180 day period. 

You are permitted 2 border entries visa exempt per calender year. VE entries via flights have no limit. However some immigration officers have their own ideas. DMK in particular.

[AndySilverfox]

Very misleading to state that the end is in sight. This is possibly applicable to about 5% of separated families. Fathers working overseas will rarely have Thai WP or residency status. So this is a useless post.

as for the guy coming in on 6 excemptions per year . That is not technically allowed . I used to do that and got stopped and told by immigration to get a visa  or refused entry. We had 4 of us doing the same and we all got got stopped. 
Just because you get away with it for years does not make it correct or compliant. He will get stopped eventually.

[Gilltom]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

Interesting, hope this becomes more specific very soon. 

Thailand must be very careful as to which country that person is coming from.personally Europe would be my last   place i would let ppl re enter.That's how they have kept it low here by not letting all and su dry in 

[Gilltom]

47 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

There are still more than 40,000 Thai citizens trying to return to there homeland these people have to be repatriated and placed into quarantine for 14 days in a couple of days it will be June . My wife is stuck in the U.K. I will be amazed if she manages to get back to Thailand by the beginning of August if there is no hope of that I am considering pulling the shutters down on the house and returning to the U.K. and not returning until 2021 at the earliest thankfully we have a U.K. base. I cannot see the Thai authorities allowing flights to resume until they have repatriated all Thais and they are extremely slow in doing that at the moment 

 

Yes thai's should be brought home first definately .but are they been cautious for isolation when they get here which is excellent .more than some countries SELF isolation what a load of <deleted> .well done Thailand for been more savvy.also think which country they are returning from plays a big part.Europe should be last on list 

[HuaHinHim]

1 hour ago, HashBrownHarry said:

I thought you were only allowed a certain amount of 'visa exempt' ( 30 days on arrival per year )? 

 

3 in any one year period rings a bell, but i may be wrong.

 

I did 30 day entries for 14 years but stopped when it was becoming scrutinized and now do Non O's.

I used to use the 30 day on arrival all the time up until about 10 years ago. Then one time immigration at Suvarnabhumi told me they would not let me in again and I needed to get a visa. I have been on multi entry non ‘o’s ever since. For a one year visa they are not cheap at $300 Australian dollars gone up $75 dollars in last 2 years. My wife’s visa to Australia cost $114 and is good until the end of her passport which had over 3 years left in it at the time. At little off topic but just sayin

[Guderian]

Good luck with getting the medical certificate from the authorities in whichever country you are, no more than 72 hours before flying, saying that you're clean. And good luck with getting the insurance to cover you for C19 up to $100,000. Until the Thai government drops these ludicrous requirements nobody is coming back any time soon.

[Miami007]

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

The reason why there was/is so few deaths is because of the policies put in place.

A fact most seem to ignore whilst they are bleating me,me,me,me,me,me,me..................

You mean the policy to allow Chinese tourists without any checks in January and February?  By the time the government closed borders they should have been overrun by sick people. 

[newatthis]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I don't follow this story. The guy with the newborn son does not have a work permit or PR so how does this news story help him. I would imagine that most guys that are married to a Thai are in same boat.

Sadly don't see a lot of joy in this for many with family/wife in Thailand.

Agree. Basically, even though he has a child here, he has been entering VE as a tourist. Until, the government allows tourists to enter Thailand (and provided he's not arriving from a restricted country), he will always be denied entry.

[superal]

35 minutes ago, AndySilverfox said:

Very misleading to state that the end is in sight. This is possibly applicable to about 5% of separated families. Fathers working overseas will rarely have Thai WP or residency status. So this is a useless post.

as for the guy coming in on 6 excemptions per year . That is not technically allowed . I used to do that and got stopped and told by immigration to get a visa  or refused entry. We had 4 of us doing the same and we all got got stopped. 
Just because you get away with it for years does not make it correct or compliant. He will get stopped eventually.

I had a pal who was warned a couple of times about using the 30 day voa . He was compliant with the amount of times he could use that in the given period , however he is not a tourist and was asked why he came to Thailand and told the IO he was here to see his wife . Turned back to origin on the next flight . He eventually got a non o visa .

I think we all have sympathy for split families and guys like Barry Mutch . These cases like this could be solved at a stroke of a pen under extenuating circumstances .

In Barry's case  the Thai IOs are equally to blame for not picking up the 8 years of visits using a tourist visa .

[Keyser Soze666]

I say keep them/us out for a good while longer. For any farang 'stuck' outside this sweatbox it is their own doing, anyone with half a brain could see the borders would close, there was plenty of time to get back in before the inevitable happened.

 

Also, Thai mothers are perfectly fine with the kids, so don't worry. 

[19DL86]

2 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Well if he's on a 4/4 rotation and coming to Thailand every time he's 'off' should that not require some sort of visa?

 

I'll help you out here, that's 6 months ( approx ) a year here or 6 visits.

As the guy in the article said he only spends 25-28 days per visit, in Thailand.  So given there's a 30 day stay, (visa exempt) on arrivals - this probably negated any reasons for him to go through the cost and hassle of applying for a Non O retirement/ married.  

Fairly logical and reasonable steps in the pre Covid world.

[Don Mega]

23 minutes ago, Miami007 said:

You mean the policy to allow Chinese tourists without any checks in January and February?  By the time the government closed borders they should have been overrun by sick people. 

When did travels restrictions get put in place..... was after January and February wasn't it ?

[ross163103]

I'm sick of hearing about permanent residence and work permits when a thread like this comes up. Thailand only has a quota of 100 PR's per country per year, hardly a viable option for the thousands of foreign spouses that live in Thailand. And as far as WP, pretty hard to get if you don't work IN Thailand.

I'm happy for the people that have these but doesn't seem a very attainable option IMO.

 

Bring on the comments about we're all just tourists, don't have any rights, blah, blah, blah, I know that already, it's been mentioned more than enough times in other threads.

[Airjockey]

5 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Specifics, Thailand, you must be joking

Will be clear as mud, just like they like it

The hurdles to jump over will be 10 foot tall, and open to all kinds of interpretation 

Immigration officers will be rubbing their hands together in glee, looking forward to turning filthy foreigners away who haven't seen their wives/kids for months, for a teeny weenie indiscretion 

 

Out come all the negative boomers.

 

Just give Thailand and it's leaders a chance and credit for the great job they've done protecting us. 

 

If you don't like their ways.... leave. Immigration is keeping people out...... not in.