yourauntbob Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Jingthing said: Total paranoia. They'll ask people to get tested and possibly self isolate. You don't need symptoms to have it. Then what is the purpose of all this? https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf "there has been no documented asymptomatic transmission" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave s Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jingthing said: Total paranoia. They'll ask people to get tested and possibly self isolate. You don't need symptoms to have it. News reports of this go back at least to mid April. The government statements at the time said you WOULD be taken to an isolation center, no option, and you WOULD be given a real corona virus blood test there, no choice, where you would remain until your lab test results came back. No "ask", no "possibly", no "self isolation": detention, contacting you is not something you can just ignore if you please, they plan to come and get you. The trouble with that is, reports of repatriation flights arriving mentioning lab tests usually say something like "results expected sometime next week": it takes Thailand days to resolve a test, during which you will sit in detention staring at the wall. And it's been really vague about cost: the most definitive statement I've heard is that confinement will be free for Thais, varying figures up to several thousand baht per day for foreigners. Now, when Central Phuket re-opened, the press person was bragging that the daily capacity of Festival was about 9,000 customers per day, and of Florestra about 26,000. As a worst case, one infected customer would mean tracking down and isolating 35,000 people -- where the hell would they put them all? And how many years would you wait for your lab results, if Thailand cannot expeditiously handle a few tests from repatriation? A second wave would mean many such instances every day, day after day. The Google API went through revision after revision, not only because of privacy concerns, but to reduce the volume of data. The type 2 Bluetooth in most cell phones can be heard for 8 to 10 meters max, but varying environmental conditions make accurate distance measurement infeasible. Still, constant Bluetooth broadcasting to nearby phones, measured as "can I hear the other phone or not, yes or no?" could approximate the standard of 2 meters or closer and 15 minutes of contact before worrying about infection. You need an app to do this; the web pages of Thaichana cannot access Bluetooth or GPS circuitry. This would give an enormous reduction in the amount of data that need be considered compared to an "everyone who was anywhere in the complex during the infected visit", in a place the size of Central. And Thailand's Thaichana app does ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THIS DATA REDUCTION, or anything else that came out of the Google reviews and the Google API. In a busy second wave, it would collapse completely. It's fake, feel-good, purely for show, face saving to claim they are doing something. It carries a heavy cost if you are selected erroneously as infected, and offers no offsetting benefit if the whole system collapses under heavy load. Edited May 29, 2020 by dave s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mr Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 19 hours ago, webfact said: Thai Chana can be translated as "Thailand (will) win". of course it does. why am i not surprised in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattjock Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just downloaded but nothing in english in this app?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 10:46 AM, JonnyF said: Same here. Local style shops and restaurants and going to be getting an awful lot of my money until this tracking nonsense disappears. I don't know why they don't just tattoo us all with barcodes and be done with it. Or maybe resurrect the plan to electronically tag tourists and extend it to the whole population? All in the name of national security, obviously. I was wondering how long it will be before, no matter what country you are in, it will be an offence to be somewhere on your own and no-one knows where you are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattjock Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 More and more places require you to use the Thai Chana app. This is now supposed to be in English but as far as I can see this is not the case. Can anyone let me know if they can get this app running in English. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Do we know of a single instance of the app being used to trace someone? Any reports anywhere about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 13 hours ago, JCP108 said: Do we know of a single instance of the app being used to trace someone? Any reports anywhere about that? It's new. Ask that question in a month or so and it might be meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 10:52 AM, brommers said: ....... Americans do not speak English. As Donald Trump demonstrates on an almost daily basis. https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattjock Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just installed yesterdays update of this app. Still not in English!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo69 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 7:12 AM, jonclark said: As Donald Trump demonstrates on an almost daily basis. https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA That's proper 'Murican English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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