Private quarantine facilities at own cost offered to returning foreigners

[lopburi3]

33 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They've given foreigners a way back in with appropriate control measures to prevent the possible spread of COVID-19 and still there's moaning about it.

 

There's no pleasing some folk.

1.  This is only open to people who Thailand want to work here - and subject to a case by case basis review. 

2.  Those with family reasons or in retirement can still not return.

3.  For most there will not be any way to even get the required insurance paperwork - even if they have good insurance.

4.  They must wait on Embassy to screen and provide paperwork.

5.  They must wait for flight and have medical clearance.

6.  They must pay for two weeks in limbo under government or hotel house arrest. 

7.  A family/medical emergency exit would trigger the whole process again.

8.  For many the costs involved would never be recovered at wages they receive and the real chance their job will disappear.

9.  "There's no pleasing some folk."  True but in this case we do not have much meat.  

[kingofthemountain]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Questions:

 

-Does foreigner pay to stay at 'state facility'?   (It's clear that the foreigner pays at the luxury locations.)

 

- Can 'private facility' mean stay at own home with own family (no other older people in residence), isolated in own bedroom, son puts meals at the b'room door?

Answers

 

- yes

 

- no 

[NanLaew]

7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

"... and will also be subject to 14 days quarantine in Thailand, either at a state facility or in a private facility at their own cost,” he added."

 

My guess is that the above could easily be misunderstood:

 

Questions:

 

-Does foreigner pay to stay at 'state facility'?   (It's clear that the foreigner pays at the luxury locations.)

 

- Can 'private facility' mean stay at own home with own family (no other older people in residence), isolated in own bedroom, son puts meals at the b'room door? Especially where:

 

- foreigner uses a wheel chair

- if foreigner holds PR 

- if destination is not Bkk (mine is Chiang Mai where there's no mention of luxury locations)

- if coming from a country which has very low infections numbers, low number of deaths, e.g. Australia

- where Oz doctor is suggesting a full test 14 days before departure and then again 3 days before departure and both tests are negative?

 

Seems that no flights yet operating Sydney to Chiang Mai and return to Sydney, but when operational I will contact the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and CAAT and ask re the above and post their answers.

 

If you have a Work Permit first. Otherwise I reckon everyone gets the same 14-day monitored quarantine.

[scorecard]

13 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

If you have a Work Permit first. Otherwise I reckon everyone gets the same 14-day monitored quarantine.

 I have PR but no work permit, now retired.

 

Won't be surprised is the 14 days quarantine is monitored, not likely to trust either Thai citizens or foreigners to actually stay at home.

 

Somewhere in all of this, I guess there will come a time where some of this* gets relaxed and eventually (hopefully) is very relaxed but perhaps with electronic monitoring of all incoming passengers on arrivals at all locations for quite some time.

 

* Need for medical certificate with COVID 19 negative report

   Need for permission in advance to enter

   Need for 'fit to fly' document

   

[DirtyHarry55]

Maybe related?
 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Remember that they are adding in extra services. So, the per night charge will surely be much higher than whatever you are seeing now for a normal booking.

 The Movenpick one in BKK had a total package price that worked out to something above 4000b per night for each night of the 2 week stay, including the required medical checks and ending COVID test.

 

[Don Mega]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They've given foreigners a way back in with appropriate control measures to prevent the possible spread of COVID-19 and still there's moaning about it.

 

There's no pleasing some folk.

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

"... and will also be subject to 14 days quarantine in Thailand, either at a state facility or in a private facility at their own cost,” he added."

 

My guess is that the above could easily be misunderstood:

 

Questions:

 

-Does foreigner pay to stay at 'state facility'?   (It's clear that the foreigner pays at the luxury locations.)

 

- Can 'private facility' mean stay at own home with own family (no other older people in residence), isolated in own bedroom, son puts meals at the b'room door? Especially where:

 

- foreigner uses a wheel chair

- if foreigner holds PR 

- if destination is not Bkk (mine is Chiang Mai where there's no mention of luxury locations)

- if coming from a country which has very low infections numbers, low number of deaths, e.g. Australia

- where Oz doctor is suggesting a full test 14 days before departure and then again 3 days before departure and both tests are negative?

 

Seems that no flights yet operating Sydney to Chiang Mai and return to Sydney, but when operational I will contact the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and CAAT and ask re the above and post their answers.

 

No.

[Greg O]

In accordance with the provisions which have actually been in effect for a week now I deposited 46000 for 16 days at the Royal Benja for my gf coming from Dubai, in addition a 100,000 baht medical (refundable) deposit for medical services including death. Also paid 52000 advance for the repatriation flight. So total deposits are 198,000 baht. She is now number 1900 in the que coming from Dubai UAE. Without depositing the funds you Cannot get in the que....Coordination is through the Thai Embassy or consulate in the country of the originating flight. Absurd but that's the procedure. 

[metisdead]

Some troll posts and replies have been removed. 

[IamNoone88]

My wife is serving 2 weeks quarantine at the Shangri-la Sentosa resort, 3 meals a day, free wifi, courtesy of the Singapore government. They are very well organised.

[new2here]

Reading around it starts from the mid 30’s and can run up to 60k

 

but that does include all 3 meals.. so while it’s not cheap per se, if you look at some of these hotels (which are bookable on normal travel websites) their normal rate (which usually excludes all meals or at minimum includes only breakfast) when compared to the rate here (expressed on a per day basis) isn’t hugely overinflated.. 

[scubascuba3]

Why can't people quarantine in their own condo, house or guesthouse? you know treat people like adults so no extra price gouging

[jimn]

As I have said on other threads. As far as the UK is concerned until the UK foreign office changes its advice not to undertake foreign travel, there is no new UK insurance you can take out to meet requirements anyway.

[Geoffggi]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

This kind of quarantine venues are for those who need more services and conveniences compared to normal state quarantine.

Hi-So Quarantine, I bet alcohol and massage also available.......LOL

[jimn]

22 minutes ago, Greg O said:

In accordance with the provisions which have actually been in effect for a week now I deposited 46000 for 16 days at the Royal Benja for my gf coming from Dubai, in addition a 100,000 baht medical (refundable) deposit for medical services including death. Also paid 52000 advance for the repatriation flight. So total deposits are 198,000 baht. She is now number 1900 in the que coming from Dubai UAE. Without depositing the funds you Cannot get in the que....Coordination is through the Thai Embassy or consulate in the country of the originating flight. Absurd but that's the procedure. 

B*g*er that, I would have told her to wait it out in Dubai. But joking apart, she is lucky to have you supporting her. How do most people afford that amount of money?

Edited May 31, 2020 by jimn

[Don Mega]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Why can't people quarantine in their own condo, house or guesthouse? you know treat people like adults so no extra price gouging

Because like some children,  they struggle to follow instruction or do as they are told.

[jimn]

2 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They've given foreigners a way back in with appropriate control measures to prevent the possible spread of COVID-19 and still there's moaning about it.

 

There's no pleasing some folk.

Only foreigners with a work permit, nothing to be pleased about there.

[Greg O]

Can't quarantine at home due to the requirement of a daily health check by staff from an approved hospital .

[AhFarangJa]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

There are currently five places ready to accommodate people returning from foreign countries -- Movenpick Wellness BDMS Resort Hotel, Qiu Hotel Sukhumvit, Grand Richmond Hotel, Royal Benja Hotel, and The Idle residence. T

When I first read the article I thought it said the first hotel was a BDSM Resort............In Patpong no doubt?............ 

[hottrader77]

6 hours ago, ChakaKhan said:

The Idle residence...sounds about right for a 2 week quarantine..unless they have a fishbowl service ????

They should include hotel 27 on soi 22 Sukhumvit the foreigners will soon get the gist oif government state Thailand style with the constant cochroaches in your room and filthy rooms after short time girls been there with a hundread customers in 3 days 

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46 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said:

My wife is serving 2 weeks quarantine at the Shangri-la Sentosa resort, 3 meals a day, free wifi, courtesy of the Singapore government. They are very well organised.

That’s the difference between a civilized country and a madhouse.

[Bob A Kneale]

5 hours ago, JCP108 said:

I would pay even more if they would provide internet service in the hotel that actually works. 

Or you could just use that same money to pay for your own internet.

[Don Mega]

14 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said:

When I first read the article I thought it said the first hotel was a BDSM Resort............In Patpong no doubt?............ 

Packing me over night bag as we speak !!

[Don Mega]

3 minutes ago, Bob A Kneale said:

Or you could just use that same money to pay for your own internet.

Why, if internet access is included in the price it should function adequately.

[Bob A Kneale]

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Cost per night?

"The quarantine promotions offered by the hotels vary in price and service. Those interested in the Alternative State Quarantine accommodation can check the hotels’ websites or their social media channels".

[Bob A Kneale]

5 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Cost per night?

A ridiculously inflated price 

That's not good, how much were you quoted?

[Greg O]

Ironically she has the money in her UAE account but UAE has put a freeze on money transfers and a low daily limit in addition they're on a 20 hour per day curfew so it makes even the simplest tasks nearly impossible.....more sheer madness abounds ! 

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

double pricing at it's best...

Where have you seen that in connection with the quarantine arrangements?  How much have you been quoted?

[Bob A Kneale]

3 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Whats the difference between staying in hospitals and hotels if showing no signs of symptoms of returning from abroad and staying locked up in my own home for free in Thailand under quarantine - I am not keen on funding the ailing hotel industry - got enough bills of my own to pay?

"- I am not keen on funding the ailing hotel industry -".

You don't have to, when you return you can go to a state quarantine facility.