cardinalblue Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 A face shield does not replace a mask...they are protecting parts of the body.... from a Hospital perspective only a respirator (Not surgical masks) is proven against airborne illness for respiratory protection... face shield is to protect the eyes and skin from blood or bodily fluid splashes... doctors and nurses will wear a surgical mask and face shield in operations if they anticipate a splash from body part or fluid due to type of procedure... rarely HC providers will perform surgery on known airborne infectious patients where an approved osha respirator would be required... common procedures dealing with an airborne illness would require at a minimum a N-95 and a face shield if a splash is anticipated or likely... Another option is safety glasses in a clinical setting but will say face shields over the last 20 years seem to be the preferred choice over old-fashion safety glasses/goggles... Human skin is the best natural barrier we have if the skin is whole and healthy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyx Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Well...I hate masks so thinking about switching to the one in the vdo ....it is undoubtedly 100% efficient ( I am dead serious actually ) IMG_6874.MOV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 12 hours ago, NCC1701A said: i am saving up for a face lift, not a face mask. Going to impress the Hun Hin female newcomers...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 12 hours ago, pixelaoffy said: The noun ' pointless ' could be used to describe alot of the current measures in Thailand If it was only a noun, you'd be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomauasia Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 COVID19 The Chinese weapon which is a bacteria made in lab..Not a virus no need a face mask period. Curable with Aspro and antibiotics..Italy changed there treatment people going home. Ilegàl autopsy by the italians has uncovered the WHO lies. China and WHO both belong in adjoining cells. Joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 5 hours ago, saakura said: Then why are they dying by the thousands everyday for months in both US and UK? Maybe the good Thai doctor actually knows a little more compared to you? Complete and utter rubbish. it is not a joke people are dying so keep this nonsense to yourself, very childish comment. Do your research if you want to know why people are dying in the western world. The shield is a better cover then a mask as it is not porous, however wearing with a face mask will be extra protection but the reality is if you want to completely protect yourself and others you need a fully sealed affair such as a hasmat suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, tomauasia said: COVID19 The Chinese weapon which is a bacteria made in lab..Not a virus no need a face mask period. Curable with Aspro and antibiotics..Italy changed there treatment people going home. Ilegàl autopsy by the italians has uncovered the WHO lies. China and WHO both belong in adjoining cells. Joke It is not a bacterial infection, it is a virus, antibiotics are useless. Therefore it is not curable with aspro and antibiotics, do you not think the hospitals would have worked that out by now.. Do your research for crying out loud... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 hours ago, cardinalblue said: A face shield does not replace a mask...they are protecting parts of the body.... from a Hospital perspective only a respirator (Not surgical masks) is proven against airborne illness for respiratory protection... face shield is to protect the eyes and skin from blood or bodily fluid splashes... doctors and nurses will wear a surgical mask and face shield in operations if they anticipate a splash from body part or fluid due to type of procedure... rarely HC providers will perform surgery on known airborne infectious patients where an approved osha respirator would be required... common procedures dealing with an airborne illness would require at a minimum a N-95 and a face shield if a splash is anticipated or likely... Another option is safety glasses in a clinical setting but will say face shields over the last 20 years seem to be the preferred choice over old-fashion safety glasses/goggles... Human skin is the best natural barrier we have if the skin is whole and healthy... ok, except coronavirus is not an airborne virus. the face masks used in surgery are to protect the doctor contaminating the patient, not the other way around. So the surgical masks everybody uses are basically to protect others not yourself really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 6 hours ago, DrTuner said: As it happens, there's a new paper in Lancet: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext?utm_campaign=tlcoronavirus20&utm_content=130650663&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&hss_channel=tw-27013292 sounds very sensible to me. better then the rubbish many people come out with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 9 hours ago, tyga said: We've made some nice carbon hi-so face shields to trump any others out there. None of that common plastic <deleted>. Sends out a statement that I'm sporty, modern, rich and hi-so ???? cartier face shields on the way with diamond encrusted brim,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Bob A Kneale said: The DPM has never said "caucasians are spreading Covid 19" [sic]. ok, dirty farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said: 650.000 people die on the FLU every year, check CDC so, yes, no pandemic really? Why don't you go volunteer on a covid ward then, minus face shield of course. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Bkkthebest said: i disagree. There is a point. The idea of wearing the HI-SO face shield is to show others that you are Hi-So. The face shields cost about 20-30 baht. Less than many masks cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sunderland Posted June 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2020 The point of wearing most masks is to prevent spread from someone who has the virus, not protect the wearer. If you are looking for protection, you need to wear a minimum of an N95 mask and either wraparound goggles or a face shield to provide protection for your eyes. Most mask wearers misunderstand this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadingEdge Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Plenty of prominent doctors, virologists, biochemists and nurses say that even masks are pointless, because virus (if it is present) is so tiny that no such mask is able stop it. Mask might protect from bacteries but not from viruses. And if Covid is a virus then masks are really useless. Recently even the WHO admitted that masks don't need to be worn by healthy individuals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bassclomp Posted June 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2020 Face masks are useless.People just touch their face more and they give false sense of safety. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Sweden no Lockdown, no face masks, no closing of anything schools , restaurants etc all stayed normally open.. Why Spain with their full Super tight lockdown and mandatory Face-masks has been hit much more badly then sweden? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Since there are space between the sides of the head and the face shield, of course air with possible Covid 19 in it could still require a mask as well to stop the very tiny Covid from getting into the nose and mouth. But of course somone like Homer Simpson would think otherwise, and Homer is not a real person. I get it. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 As it was said a hazmat suit may stop the Covid 19 virus better than face shields, or safety goggles and N95 or better masks, but they are hell on a hot day if the AC unit quits. I would rather have on a cap, goggles and good mask as I can still have some ventilation on my clothes, and I can drive my car a bit better without wearing a hazmat suit as well. The world is a different place today, and I am looking forward to the day that there will be a vaccine for covid 19, and its weak or strong strains. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 15 hours ago, DrTuner said: Yeah, only 6,273,402 confirmed, 375,683 dead in nearly all countries. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 I guess it'll have to be in the billions or trillions to be a legit pandemic. out of total population of how many billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Warrior Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 makes sense 100% == can still intake <deleted> from the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtong Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 23 hours ago, Canuck1966 said: How long are you willing to wear a mask for? 1 year, 5 years, forever?? since 9/11, cant have 100ml+ liquid and nail clippers on the planes....19 years.... sincerely hope these masks wont stay that long, totally pointless. since weeks Thailand pretty much have imported virus cases, so really unclear the spread of what they trying to stop? on same basis, Thailand could save 20000 lives if only ban all cars and tracks and motorbikes in favor of hand carts and walking. on the upside, Thai Airways may get the field even, if they force all airlines to leave empty seats ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 16 hours ago, Advocatus Diaboli said: On thing that no one can argue against and say it is not correct, is that COVID19 haS saved lives in Thailand. more so... saved from: - a lot of work related pregnancies - a lot of going-on-a-trap-run debt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomauasia Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 10 hours ago, GAZZPA said: Complete and utter rubbish. it is not a joke people are dying so keep this nonsense to yourself, very childish comment. Do your research if you want to know why people are dying in the western world. The shield is a better cover then a mask as it is not porous, however wearing with a face mask will be extra protection but the reality is if you want to completely protect yourself and others you need a fully sealed affair such as a hasmat suit. Wring meds it's a bacteria which clots the blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 yes next year is almost here so no problem next year is very much on the cards as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadingEdge Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said: Since there are space between the sides of the head and the face shield, of course air with possible Covid 19 in it could still require a mask as well to stop the very tiny Covid from getting into the nose and mouth. But of course somone like Homer Simpson would think otherwise, and Homer is not a real person. I get it. Geezer It just takes little research to learn that face masks are totally unable to stop any kind of virus, due to its extremely microscopic size, so the masks fabric can't prevent it if it is there. It's the same as building a linkchain fence to block out mosquitoes. Plus I'm seeing more and more medical specialists reports about coronavirus not being airborn anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadingEdge Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 2:07 PM, Bob A Kneale said: They will also be moved around randomly by air currents which means that they can be blown in any direction after their initial sneeze/cough velocity has stopped, and that includes up face shields and noses. Previously, the WHO was saying Covid19 can remain suspended in the air for up to 3 hours. Now they are saying it is not airborn but can only be shot through sneezing, etc. So, which is it? Looks like they are confused and make stuff on the go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadingEdge Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 15 hours ago, Sunderland said: The point of wearing most masks is to prevent spread from someone who has the virus, not protect the wearer. If you are looking for protection, you need to wear a minimum of an N95 mask and either wraparound goggles or a face shield to provide protection for your eyes. Most mask wearers misunderstand this. Face masks might protect from spreading bacteria but not viruses, as we can all see with little research that plenty of prominent epidemiologists say that virus is so tiny it can't be contained by mask pores, if it is there. So either Covid19 is not a virus or if it is, masks are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Treehug Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 3:56 PM, worgeordie said: AS well, the more protection the better,US,UK its a serious problem regards Worgeordie One of the main problems is the virus can enter your eyes more so than any other way! But if you have already got the virus the face mask ???? will stop you from spreading it ! The Question is if you don't know if you already have it ???? And you don't want to spread it , then wear a mask ???? and if you differently know you don't have the virus the face shield is perfect ???? and clean your hands as often as possible ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, LeadingEdge said: It just takes little research to learn that face masks are totally unable to stop any kind of virus, due to its extremely microscopic size, so the masks fabric can't prevent it if it is there. It's the same as building a linkchain fence to block out mosquitoes. Plus I'm seeing more and more medical specialists reports about coronavirus not being airborn anyway. Every little helps, especially if you get it and didn't wear a mask, you will always wonder..???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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