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A face shield does not replace a mask...they are protecting parts of the body....

 

from a Hospital perspective only a respirator (Not surgical masks) is proven against airborne illness for respiratory protection...

 

face shield is to protect the eyes and skin from blood or bodily fluid splashes...

 

doctors and nurses will wear a surgical mask and face shield in operations if they anticipate a splash from body part or fluid due to type of procedure...

 

rarely HC providers will perform surgery on known airborne infectious patients where an approved osha respirator would be required...

 

common procedures dealing with an airborne illness would require at a minimum a N-95 and a face shield if a splash is anticipated or likely...

 

Another option is safety glasses in a clinical setting but will say face shields over the last 20 years seem to be the preferred choice over old-fashion safety glasses/goggles...

 

Human skin is the best natural barrier we have if the skin is whole and healthy...

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Dr Fauci has said on tv they are acceptable as a replacement for a face mask as long as they go below the chin and back to just in front of the ears and this a man who knows what he is talking about .

i am saving up for a face lift, not a face mask. 

Human nature. Even in crisis, people feel the need to differentiate themselves to show they are ‘better’. 

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COVID19 The Chinese weapon which is a bacteria made in lab..Not a virus no need a face mask period. Curable with Aspro and antibiotics..Italy changed there treatment people going home. Ilegàl autopsy by the italians has uncovered the WHO lies. China and WHO both belong in adjoining cells. Joke 

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5 hours ago, saakura said:

Then why are they dying by the thousands everyday for months in both US and UK? Maybe the good Thai doctor actually knows a little more compared to you?

Complete and utter rubbish. it is not a joke people are dying so keep this nonsense to yourself, very childish comment. Do your research if you want to know why people are dying in the western world.

 

The shield is a better cover then a mask as it is not porous, however wearing with a face mask will be extra protection but the reality is if you want to completely protect yourself and others you need a fully sealed affair such as a hasmat suit.

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3 minutes ago, tomauasia said:

COVID19 The Chinese weapon which is a bacteria made in lab..Not a virus no need a face mask period. Curable with Aspro and antibiotics..Italy changed there treatment people going home. Ilegàl autopsy by the italians has uncovered the WHO lies. China and WHO both belong in adjoining cells. Joke 

It is not a bacterial infection, it is a virus, antibiotics are useless. Therefore it is not curable with aspro and antibiotics, do you not think the hospitals would have worked that out by now.. Do your research for crying out loud...

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3 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

A face shield does not replace a mask...they are protecting parts of the body....

 

from a Hospital perspective only a respirator (Not surgical masks) is proven against airborne illness for respiratory protection...

 

face shield is to protect the eyes and skin from blood or bodily fluid splashes...

 

doctors and nurses will wear a surgical mask and face shield in operations if they anticipate a splash from body part or fluid due to type of procedure...

 

rarely HC providers will perform surgery on known airborne infectious patients where an approved osha respirator would be required...

 

common procedures dealing with an airborne illness would require at a minimum a N-95 and a face shield if a splash is anticipated or likely...

 

Another option is safety glasses in a clinical setting but will say face shields over the last 20 years seem to be the preferred choice over old-fashion safety glasses/goggles...

 

Human skin is the best natural barrier we have if the skin is whole and healthy...

ok, except coronavirus is not an airborne virus. 

the face masks used in surgery are to protect the doctor contaminating the patient, not the other way around. So the surgical masks everybody uses are basically to protect others not yourself really.

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6 hours ago, DrTuner said:

sounds very sensible to me. better then the rubbish many people come out with.

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9 hours ago, tyga said:

We've made some nice carbon hi-so face shields to trump any others out there. None of that common plastic <deleted>. Sends out a statement that I'm sporty, modern, rich and hi-so  😉

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cartier face shields on the way with diamond encrusted brim,,,

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10 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

650.000 people die on the FLU every year, check CDC

 

so, yes, no pandemic

really? Why don't you go volunteer on a covid ward then, minus face shield of course. 😁

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9 hours ago, Bkkthebest said:

i disagree. There is a point. The idea of wearing the HI-SO face shield is to show others that you are Hi-So.

The face shields cost about 20-30 baht. Less than many masks cost.

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Plenty of prominent doctors, virologists, biochemists and nurses say that even masks are pointless, because virus (if it is present) is so tiny that no such mask is able stop it. Mask might protect from bacteries but not from viruses. And if Covid is a virus then masks are really useless. Recently even the WHO admitted that masks don't need to be worn by healthy individuals. 

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Sweden no Lockdown,  no face masks, no closing of anything schools , restaurants etc all stayed normally open..

Why Spain with their full Super tight  lockdown and  mandatory Face-masks has been hit much more badly then sweden?

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Since there are space between the sides of the head and the face shield, of course

air with possible Covid 19 in it could still require a mask as well to stop the very

tiny Covid from getting into the nose and mouth. But of course somone like

Homer Simpson would think otherwise, and Homer is not a real person.

  I get it.

Geezer

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As it was said a hazmat suit may stop the Covid 19 virus better than face shields, or safety goggles

and N95 or better masks, but they are hell on a hot day if the AC unit quits.   I would rather

have on a cap, goggles and good mask as I can still have some ventilation on my 

clothes, and I can drive my car a bit better without wearing a hazmat suit as well.

  The world is a different place today, and I am looking forward to the day that

there will be a vaccine for covid 19, and its weak or strong strains.

Geezer

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23 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

How long are you willing to wear a mask for?

1 year, 5 years, forever??

 

since 9/11, cant have 100ml+ liquid and nail clippers on the planes....19 years....

sincerely hope these masks wont stay that long, totally pointless.

 

since weeks Thailand pretty much have imported virus cases, so really unclear the spread of what they trying to stop?

 

on same basis, Thailand could save 20000 lives if only ban all cars and tracks and motorbikes in favor of hand carts and walking.

 

on the upside, Thai Airways may get the field even, if they force all airlines to leave empty seats 😄

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16 hours ago, Advocatus Diaboli said:

On thing that no one can argue against and say it is not correct, is that COVID19 haS saved lives in Thailand. 

more so... saved from:

 - a lot of work related pregnancies 

 - a lot of going-on-a-trap-run debt 

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10 hours ago, GAZZPA said:

Complete and utter rubbish. it is not a joke people are dying so keep this nonsense to yourself, very childish comment. Do your research if you want to know why people are dying in the western world.

 

The shield is a better cover then a mask as it is not porous, however wearing with a face mask will be extra protection but the reality is if you want to completely protect yourself and others you need a fully sealed affair such as a hasmat suit.

Wring meds it's a bacteria which clots the blood.

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10 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Since there are space between the sides of the head and the face shield, of course

air with possible Covid 19 in it could still require a mask as well to stop the very

tiny Covid from getting into the nose and mouth. But of course somone like

Homer Simpson would think otherwise, and Homer is not a real person.

  I get it.

Geezer

It just takes little research to learn that face masks are totally unable to stop any kind of virus, due to its extremely microscopic size, so the masks fabric can't prevent it if it is there. It's the same as building a linkchain fence to block out mosquitoes. Plus I'm seeing more and more medical specialists reports about coronavirus not being airborn anyway. 

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On 6/2/2020 at 2:07 PM, Bob A Kneale said:

They will also be moved around randomly by air currents which means that they can be blown in any direction after their initial sneeze/cough velocity has stopped, and that includes up face shields and noses.

Previously, the WHO was saying Covid19 can remain suspended in the air for up to 3 hours. Now they are saying it is not airborn but can only be shot through sneezing, etc. So, which is it? Looks like they are confused and make stuff on the go. 

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15 hours ago, Sunderland said:

The point of wearing most masks is to prevent spread from someone who has the virus, not protect the wearer. 

If you are looking for protection, you need to wear a minimum of an N95 mask and either wraparound goggles or a face shield to provide protection for your eyes.

 

Most mask wearers misunderstand this.

Face masks might protect from spreading bacteria but not viruses, as we can all see with little research that plenty of prominent epidemiologists say that virus is so tiny it can't be contained by mask pores, if it is there. So either Covid19 is not a virus or if it is, masks are useless. 

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On 6/2/2020 at 3:56 PM, worgeordie said:

AS well, the more protection the better,US,UK its a serious problem

regards Worgeordie

One of the main problems is the virus can enter your eyes more so than any other way! But if you have already got the virus the face mask 😷 will stop you from spreading it ! The Question is if you don't know if you already have it 🤔 And you don't want to spread it , then wear a mask 😷 and if you differently know you don't have the virus the face shield is perfect 👌 and clean your hands as often as possible 😁

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2 hours ago, LeadingEdge said:

It just takes little research to learn that face masks are totally unable to stop any kind of virus, due to its extremely microscopic size, so the masks fabric can't prevent it if it is there. It's the same as building a linkchain fence to block out mosquitoes. Plus I'm seeing more and more medical specialists reports about coronavirus not being airborn anyway. 

Every little helps, especially if you get it and didn't wear a mask, you will always wonder..😊

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