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sure they will; same as they caved to the mainland china in the 1997 'negotiations'

Pretty much agree with you. Sure, Boris will squeal and protest, but the Chinese don't blink in negotiations, even though it proves their ill  intentions for its subjects. And when it gets away with H

The UK doesn't have much leverage in this but this is a bold move and I support it. China needs to be taken down a peg or two.  The new imperialists. Ironically. 

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Poor ole Boris is probably just hoping a  wee puff and huff will encourage a little British patriotism to deflect his  many other  worries and endear himself to  the POTUS.

Yet his proposal is at least more humanitarian than Trump's actions to sacrifice HK altogether by excuse of the objection to the internal legislation of another Nation which in effect is no more draconian than the US Patriot Act which has been repeatedly reauthorized for the last 20 years!

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36 minutes ago, flossie35 said:

But sovereign UK territory taken by force, ie stolen. And anyway dependent on the leased bit for eg water. Guess who owns the tap?

And in case no-one has noticed BJ seems intent on wrecking the UK economy with his no deal brexit; why would anyone want to come?

A bit like Singapore? 
 

Still an shrunken yet independent HK would have been unacceptable to China. 
 

As for colonialism - I take your point. Just that China doesn’t. Witness Tibet and most of the west of the country . They don’t even get their own time zone!

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25 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

So if it is a bilateral joint declaration how can one side have no right to monitor, as you claimed in your earlier post?

 

 

I was replying to your assertion that UN will monitor the bi-lateral declaration which is not true. UN will only be involved when the parties lodge a complaint. 
 

The subject of Britain monitoring the joint declaration is still a subject of legality after 1997. This is what I said. Will this legality be tested, we will have to wait and see. 

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18 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

I was replying to your assertion that UN will monitor the bi-lateral declaration which is not true. UN will only be involved when the parties lodge a complaint. 
 

The subject of Britain monitoring the joint declaration is still a subject of legality after 1997. This is what I said. Will this legality be tested, we will have to wait and see. 

So you acknowledge that UK has a right to lodge a complaint?  Which would have to be done after monitoring!

And you claim that UK monitoring the joint declaration may be illegal after 1997.  Please do advise on the legality of China not honouring the joint declaration

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18 hours ago, YetAnother said:

sure they will; same as they caved to the mainland china in the 1997 'negotiations'

You obviously didn't watch the BBC's excellent documentary 'The Last Governor'. 

 

Chris Patten fought like a tiger to maximize Hong Kong's rights and freedoms and won a lot of concessions from the Chinese negotiators. He was such a 'thorn in the side' of the Chinese negotiators that he became known as the 'whore of the East,' in Chinese media.

 

It was obvious why John Major chose a hard nosed politician to be the last governor, rather than a more whimsical career diplomat.

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2 hours ago, Bruntoid said:

So potentially 2,850,000 immigrants to the U.K. - brexiteer heads must be in a spin this morning !! 

Well post brexit they were talking about ‘Singapore on Thames’. Perhaps they now can tweak it to be ‘HK on Thames’. 
 

The SE is going to love it. The rest of England, probably not so much! 

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