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It's proven.... lockdown does not work!

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Has published correspondence from a Swedish doctor and professor. 
 

if you want academic papers with research that shows the benefits of lockdown there are plenty.

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1 hour ago, CanadaSam said:

The Lancet, the foremost publication for Medicine, has published this article, which makes for an extremely interesting read:

unfortunately Spock read this. i could not believe it. 

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

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10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The objectives of the lock down were to prevent the health services from being overwhelmed after an new 'novel' virus spread across the world. Nothing was known about it at the time, projections showed the devastating potential of this new and unstudied virus.

 

The virus is not as deadly as we first believed, the heath services have not been overwhelmed.

 

The lock down was the correct decision initially, continued now seems pointless.

Those in high risk groups and those who would have contact with them could choose to isolate while the world moves on.

 

I can only suspect that any decisions to continue the lock down are taken out of fear of criticism when someone becomes severely ill from Covid-19.

 

We will continue to live with Covid-19 and the risks associated with Covid-19 years from now.

Perhaps a Vaccine will be found, but remember, the influenza vaccine is between 40 and 60% effective. Could we assume that any Vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 to be equally as effective meaning many people remain at risk.

 

As more testing continues, it is becoming recognised that more people have had Covid-19 without symptoms, the Case Fatality Rates are low (still double that of Influenza - which has a vaccine).

 

Question: if we had a vaccine that was 99% effective would we (humanity) be happy? because it should be noted that we already have more 99.8% effective protection when the CFR is 0.2%

 

Food for thought - All decisions now are not made for the benefit of the people and the future, but out of fear of criticism.

You are mixing up CFR and IFR. The CFR (Not really a useful statistic though) is much much higher than 0.2% and it is likely that the IFR will be significantly higher too.

 

You say that continued lockdowns are pointless but they are now being lifted almost everywhere. This may seem slow to some but there is sense in these things being done incrementally and with some caution. Nevertheless, the world will be significantly more open at the end of this month than it was on May 1st.

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Posted (edited)

I think that you should practice with Google more.

Sweden had a population of less than 11 milliion people in last years figures.

These are the current stats for the virus there. And you believe that no lockdown is better? I think that I will stay in Thailand thank you.

Confirmed
40,803
Recovered
4,971
Deaths
4,542
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Where in the UK? No it doesn't work there.

Everywhere else it works fine.

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Sweden is in the top countries with the highest death rate, with 450 deaths/1 million citizens. 
UK, which was aiming for herd immunity, has almost the highest death rate in the world (585 deaths/1M citizens).

Lockdowns work if they're done in time. Most (with common sense) know that a lockdown that is started 1 month after an epidemic in one's country has taken off amounts to little (such as with Trump's botched response in the US, now with almost 109,000 deaths).

 

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50 minutes ago, impulse said:

From the linked article:
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Measures to flatten the curve might have an effect, but a lockdown only pushes the severe cases into the future—it will not prevent them. Admittedly, countries have managed to slow down spread so as not to overburden health-care systems, and, yes, effective drugs that save lives might soon be developed, but this pandemic is swift, and those drugs have to be developed, tested, and marketed quickly.

 

The author of the study seems to think lockdowns work.

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