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5 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Good to hear all four will be charged. 
 

Though I have concerns that second degree murder can be proved.
 

The cop is undoubtedly a thug whose actions are directly responsible for George Floyds death, but I seriously doubt he intended to kill him. 

What's the difference between second and third degree murder?

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5 hours ago, ezzra said:

If i were the head of the Minneapolis law enforcement associations i would call to a resignation en mass to protest the murder charges on 4 police men, you can't have police men punting their lives on the line day and night day in and out dealing with criminals only to be charged with murder, yes they have stepped their enforcement boundaries but murder charge to appease millions of looters and lynch mob this is over kill... 

You really are a sick man. The cop murdered the black fellow in cold blood. Never at any time was the cop under any threat to his safety.

It is not ok to kill black people even if you think it is.

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5 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Good to hear all four will be charged. 
 

Though I have concerns that second degree murder can be proved.
 

The cop is undoubtedly a thug whose actions are directly responsible for George Floyds death, but I seriously doubt he intended to kill him. 

I agree. Stupid and thoughtless but murder?  manslaughter I'd have thought.

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9 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

What's the difference between second and third degree murder?

Degree of intent I think, but others have since said, that might not be the case here

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5 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

10 unarmed black people were killed by police in 2019

That's the Washington Post too

See the video below, each case is broke down 

 

 

Absolute nonsense

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1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

I agree. Stupid and thoughtless but murder?  manslaughter I'd have thought.

Manslaughter is still murder, I think it all comes down to degree of intent. However I am not a lawyer or law student.

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1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Manslaughter is still murder.

No , look up both words to see the difference

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I just looked up the stats for police deaths......31.8% of all police murders were black......ie twice the per capita rate for any other group.

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5 hours ago, Sujo said:

Bottom line is the officer used a technique that is not authorised on a guy that was not resisting for 8 minutes, and 2 minutes after being told he was unresponsive.

 

so bottom line is officer rightly charged.

 

Btw, there is no law that says you have to respect police, and why would they get respect the way they act.

you have a burglary and don't bother calling them then after all you don't respect them 

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8 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

you have a burglary and don't bother calling them then after all you don't respect them 

Why. I expect them to do their job. I dont have to respect them for it.

 

I dont respect politicians but i ecpect them to do their job.

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1 minute ago, Sujo said:

Murder is intent.

manslaughter is no intent.

 

You punch someone and he hits his head on a table and dies it is not murder because your intent was not to kill. Manslaughter.

 

You could say the same for the officer but....his actions can be seen as intent after he was told the guy was non responsive yet still had him for another 2 minutes. A reasonable person would consider that further action could cause death. So that can bump it up to murder.

 

Murder 1 would be premeditated, or planned. Not the case here. So murder 2 it is.

You can argue that but the site I quote is quite clear.

 

Manslaughter is murder without intent.

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