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10 minutes ago, andy72 said:

that is just speculation at this time, no one knows when the borders will open and to whom.

I was replying to a post stating there would be be a big rush to the borders on July 31st. No comment at all about them being open or not.

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3 hours ago, andy72 said:

no never a stop but bordering nations are closed

where are you going to fly to?

home?

Flights going to everywhere in Europe and were never stopped. Middle East, africa, Australia etc. Thailand is more than happy to see people leave.

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every single day so much speculation. NOBODY KNOWS what Thai immigration is going to do !!!!!!!

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18 hours ago, JackThompson said:

How hard to get a visa for a Thai wife (under 50)?  Can she be your "dependent"?

Very sorry i am single and I have no idea but I am sure she will be able to get a visa without any problems as the official visa agencies you deal with will offer the best advice - they are very helpful.  

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1 hour ago, Burma Bill said:

Very sorry i am single and I have no idea but I am sure she will be able to get a visa without any problems as the official visa agencies you deal with will offer the best advice - they are very helpful.  

Yes - when I was living in Cambodia some years ago, an agent to handle a 1-year ME Visa cost just $20.  I hope we don't have to leave Thailand, but good to know if Immigration won't let me stay (to spite meeting all "published" requirements), we at least have other options to stay together.

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4 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Yes - when I was living in Cambodia some years ago, an agent to handle a 1-year ME Visa cost just $20.  I hope we don't have to leave Thailand, but good to know if Immigration won't let me stay (to spite meeting all "published" requirements), we at least have other options to stay together.

Good luck to you, Sir.

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On 6/5/2020 at 12:12 PM, MyTHaiMyKe said:

will there be a big rush to the borders

I thought the topic referred to all the farangs that can't wait to get out of Thailand, to move to a new location. I know I can't wait til they officially open the airport, to leave permanently! I have had enough of the Thai way, being treated like a second rate person and that was before the china/xi virus!!

Then Why Didn't YOU Leave Before it came then ??

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On 6/5/2020 at 12:12 PM, MyTHaiMyKe said:

will there be a big rush to the borders

I thought the topic referred to all the farangs that can't wait to get out of Thailand, to move to a new location. I know I can't wait til they officially open the airport, to leave permanently! I have had enough of the Thai way, being treated like a second rate person and that was before the china/xi virus!!

 

You can leave anytime you want providing the country you wish to go to has their border open. However, if you wish to return to your country of nationality, it's fairly straightforward on repatriation flights such as Europe, UK, USA.

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3 hours ago, JackThompson said:

Yes - when I was living in Cambodia some years ago, an agent to handle a 1-year ME Visa cost just $20.  I hope we don't have to leave Thailand, but good to know if Immigration won't let me stay (to spite meeting all "published" requirements), we at least have other options to stay together.

 

Not many Thais are prepared to swap Thailand for a life in Cambodia without family and friends and their favorite foods.

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Personally, im far more interested in when the laos and other surrounding consulates reopen, what their requirements will be if changed (and somehow I cannot see it going back to business as usual), and whether or not there will be a government enforced quarrantine upon return.

 

Very little joy in doing a visa run if there is nowhere to run and you cant come back and resume life unhindered.

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On 6/4/2020 at 1:44 PM, JeffersLos said:

The guys that use(d) a multi-entry Non O from Sav or HCM to live here without 400k in the bank or showing 40k a month into their own Thai bank account from abroad might be in for a serious shock.

 

What will they do if their visa runs out, they come to an end of a 60 day extension based on family, cannot get another extension so need to leave, perhaps no more multi-entry visa from neighboring consulates, need Covid health insurance and health certificate from their home country to come and go?

 

It could be a right nightmare for them. 

 

Will every sort of border run require covid insurance and health certificates every time someone does one. A right PIA that would be. 

A very valid scenario.

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43 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Not many Thais are prepared to swap Thailand for a life in Cambodia without family and friends and their favorite foods.

The food-ingredients are in the markets, and plenty of Thai restaurants.  Many already live away from their families to work.  The key is being close enough they can go home to visit. 

 

Granted, it's not ideal, but as long as Immigration offices continue to be allowed to break the official rules, to deny extensions to those of us who qualify, this may become the only option to avoid breaking up our families. 

 

Remember, it is not just about "having the 40K/mo" or not - though sad if someone with a more than adequate 30K/mo pension is denied.  I had well over 40K/mo every time I applied - proven with foreign transfers on the first attempts, and with tax-payments + work-permit + bank-letter proof on my last attempt.  The REAL problem are the "unpublished" rules, which offices use to deny Valid applications. 

 

The corruption is what forces most most Multi-Entry Non-O Visa use, and is why immigration hate those visas - because they cut into their "undocumented" envelope revenue.

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On 6/4/2020 at 1:44 PM, JeffersLos said:

The guys that use(d) a multi-entry Non O from Sav or HCM to live here without 400k in the bank or showing 40k a month into their own Thai bank account from abroad might be in for a serious shock.

 

What will they do if their visa runs out, they come to an end of a 60 day extension based on family, cannot get another extension so need to leave, perhaps no more multi-entry visa from neighboring consulates, need Covid health insurance and health certificate from their home country to come and go?

 

It could be a right nightmare for them. 

 

Will every sort of border run require covid insurance and health certificates every time someone does one. A right PIA that would be. 

I imagine a lot of them are like myself.  Fed up with local immigration office bureaucracy,  [email protected] exchange rates, hoping for the baht to decrease in value, reluctant to stick 400,000 in the Thai bank account, prefer to do the multi non-O.  When the push comes to a shove, many will reluctantly comply with the annual extension circus.  Sorry to burst your bubble 😉

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2 hours ago, JackThompson said:

The food-ingredients are in the markets, and plenty of Thai restaurants.  Many already live away from their families to work.  The key is being close enough they can go home to visit. 

 

Granted, it's not ideal, but as long as Immigration offices continue to be allowed to break the official rules, to deny extensions to those of us who qualify, this may become the only option to avoid breaking up our families. 

 

Remember, it is not just about "having the 40K/mo" or not - though sad if someone with a more than adequate 30K/mo pension is denied.  I had well over 40K/mo every time I applied - proven with foreign transfers on the first attempts, and with tax-payments + work-permit + bank-letter proof on my last attempt.  The REAL problem are the "unpublished" rules, which offices use to deny Valid applications. 

 

The corruption is what forces most most Multi-Entry Non-O Visa use, and is why immigration hate those visas - because they cut into their "undocumented" envelope revenue.

 

 

What part of the country are you in?....... I am up in Isaarn and they tend to be fairly laid back up here, where I am at least.

 

I once floated the idea of moving to Cambodia with my other half and I was met with such resistance I never mentioned it again. I think mentioning Cambodia is a lot less appealing to them than Europe or the United States or Australia. They class it as a step down, mine did for sure. However, she did enjoy Vietnam a lot more and wants to go again.

 

I have been with my other half 24 years, I also have quite a reasonable understanding of where many of them are coming from thinking wise.

 

Yes, I know the Thai restaurants and the owners in Siem Reap. I am down there a lot.

 

I also knew a Belgian guy and his Thai wife operating a successful restaurant by the river called Crocodile Bistro. It seemed busy, and was busy and successful, but they still left.

 

I just use the 800K method annually. In fact I will renew in a few weeks.

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

What part of the country are you in?....... I am up in Isaarn and they tend to be fairly laid back up here, where I am at least.

The Issan immigration office where I attempted to apply was the ONLY one where they were polite to my wife.  But, a "district approval" is needed for Thai-Family based extensions, and they said my proven income (embassy-letter plus international bank-transfer history) would not work, unless I could provide proof the income was from a "state pension." 

 

My last failed attempt at a Non-O extension was at Chiang Wattana - with work-permit and proven income.  Before that, BOI, who would not do it, because I am on a Non-O visa-entry (vs Non-B), though it is 100% legal to work on a Non-O supporting Thai family.
 

13 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

I once floated the idea of moving to Cambodia with my other half and I was met with such resistance I never mentioned it again. I think mentioning Cambodia is a lot less appealing to them than Europe or the United States or Australia. They class it as a step down, mine did for sure. However, she did enjoy Vietnam a lot more and wants to go again.

I am also considering Vietnam, and do think the food/culture would be more compatible.  But not sure about the visa-rules - no way my wife would put up with constant visa-running. 

 

13 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

I have been with my other half 24 years, I also have quite a reasonable understanding of where many of them are coming from thinking wise.

 

Yes, I know the Thai restaurants and the owners in Siem Reap. I am down there a lot.

 

I also knew a Belgian guy and his Thai wife operating a successful restaurant by the river called Crocodile Bistro. It seemed busy, and was busy and successful, but they still left.

Siem Reap might work, because it is less run-down / poor than much of Cambodia.  I just hope the borders / consulate options return to what they were in time, so I can avoid this.  If I just have to work for my Thai company as a digital-nomad in Cambodia for 3 mo or so, will just do that, and return.  

The company would like to use BOI (easier for them) - but that requires a now-impossible a Non-B Visa-Run to start, and leaves my permitted-stay at the mercy of work, unlike a family-based extension.

 

13 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

I just use the 800K method annually. In fact I will renew in a few weeks.

If you can afford to risk that sum in a foreign-bank, in a country where you have no rights, this is definitely the best option.  I have some savings, but not enough to put a lump-sum at risk in Thailand.  I have to keep my liquid funds where I have FDIC (USA) funds-protection.   I am not a financial-expert, and therefore cannot predict what might happen here if things went sideways.

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