Thai govt mulling which ‘red’ businesses can reopen in phase 4 easing

[webfact]

Govt mulling which ‘red’ businesses can reopen in phase 4 easing

By The Nation

 

 

Authorities are now considering which high-risk businesses will be allowed to reopen under the next phase of lockdown easing, the government’s Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) revealed today (June 4).

 

CCSA spokesman Dr Taweesin Visanuyothin said that the virus might be with us for months or even years, so the government had to carefully consider which “red” (high contagion risk) businesses could reopen. The CCSA has asked operators of “red” businesses to report their Covid-19 preventive measures and plans, so the agency could make decisions on whether they could open.

 

Businesses and activities currently in the running to restart in the fourth phase of lockdown easing are:

 

1. Educational institutes – for classes, training, and exams.

 

2. Nurseries and centres for the elderly.

 

3. Educational science attractions.

 

4. Meeting rooms holding more than 200 attendees.

 

5. TV and film productions with crews of more than 100 people.

 

6. National parks (restricted to certain areas).

 

7. Beaches (restricted to certain areas).

 

8. Amusement parks, playgrounds, and game centres.

 

9. Gyms, fitness centres, and sports stadiums.

 

10. Convention halls larger than 20,000 square metres, for concerts, expos, and events.

 

11. Entertainment venues, pubs, bars and karaoke outlets.

 

12. Large massage parlours.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30389056

 

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[smedly]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

11. Entertainment venues, pubs, bars and karaoke outlets.

the answer to this is obvious 

 

discos and nightclubs no way

 

small Bars no more risk than restaurants especially open air 

[tribalfusion001]

11. Entertainment venues, pubs, bars and karaoke outlets.

 

12. Large massage parlours.

 

Both mai dai.

[spiekerjozef]

No new cases in 6 weeks (incubation time is 14 days).

They can open all businesses without any problem.

If you want no new cases in Thailand, keep the borders shut till Jan. 2021.

Edited June 4, 2020 by spiekerjozef

[anchadian]

As for bars, pubs, karaoke bars and massage parlors, which are regarded as “red activities”, Dr. Taweesin said that the matter must be discussed in detail, especially preventive measures.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/ccsa-identifies-12-activities-which-could-have-covid-19-restrictions-eased/

[kwonitoy]

The gym I go to in Udon Thani opened on June 1st, same as before it closed, temp check on entering.

They've got the bar code thing to scan but I just ignore it.

Signs all over saying social distancing, (oh how I hate that term) and they moved some machines a little further apart.

Employees wear a mask but all the people, including me working out do not.

I'm glad it's open, same old faces inside.

Edited June 4, 2020 by kwonitoy

[Yorkshire Tea]

6. National parks (restricted to certain areas).

 

Why are they still closed?  Maybe the campsites can get crowded on holiday weekends, but the rest is open countryside. 

[Canuck1966]

50 minutes ago, smedly said:

the answer to this is obvious 

 

discos and nightclubs no way

 

small Bars no more risk than restaurants especially open air 

This ridiculous assertion that everybody who has a drink in a restaurant/bar gets paralytic is condescending to say the least

[Canuck1966]

I live near the beach and all bars open air.

Open everything asap and let people earn!

[holy cow cm]

Come on. With soapy slides all they have to do is enforce that the gal cleans and rubs you for more than 20 seconds.

[Mattd]

15 hours ago, webfact said:

Govt mulling which ‘red’ businesses can reopen in phase 4 easing

 

15 hours ago, webfact said:

9. Gyms, fitness centres, and sports stadiums.

I thought these were allowed to open in phase 3 from 1st June? 

 

14 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

11. Entertainment venues, pubs, bars and karaoke outlets.

 

12. Large massage parlours.

 

Both mai dai.

And the reason for your decision is?

[Borzandy]

15 hours ago, webfact said:

3. Educational science attractions.

Any in Thailand? Like tiger zoo or dolphin show

[LukKrueng]

14 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

No new cases in 6 weeks (incubation time is 14 days).

They can open all businesses without any problem.

If you want no new cases in Thailand, keep the borders shut till Jan. 2021.

First of all let me say that I am against all that closures, restrictions and the "new norms" and would have preferred all countries would act like Sweden (well, maybe with some changes such as more protection for the elderly and at risk population).

Now lets talk numbers... Every news article / Covid19 handling authority in the world keep throwing numbers at us. How many got infected yesterday, how many died the day before, how many were tested and so on. However, they never give the complete details. Say there were no new cases in Thailand for the past 6 weeks. But how many tests were done? Where? 

So just quoting incomplete numeral information is worthless. Any which way you look at it, the only way this virus will die is by not having anyone to infect anymore which means the majority of the world population will get infected (or vaccinated of course). 

[Nicolaas Jacob Breeker]

15 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

The gym I go to in Udon Thani opened on June 1st, same as before it closed, temp check on entering.

They've got the bar code thing to scan but I just ignore it.

Signs all over saying social distancing, (oh how I hate that term) and they moved some machines a little further apart.

Employees wear a mask but all the people, including me working out do not.

I'm glad it's open, same old faces inside.

Offcourse you ignore it,we don't give a <deleted> if you get yourself at risk but we don't want you to put us in danger.Let me ques you are britisch.

[Bender Rodriguez]

everything should be open as there is no pandemic... 58 deaths in 4 months ???

[Aland]

16 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

No new cases in 6 weeks (incubation time is 14 days).

They can open all businesses without any problem.

If you want no new cases in Thailand, keep the borders shut till Jan. 2021.

In the next several weeks, it'll be most interesting to see how they wont be able to stop everything from re-opening. Every day that goes by, more evidence comes out that this pandemic is no more dangerous then a bad case of the flu, dont take my word for it, look for yourselves https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/. All those people that crammed into the BTS on opening day? Not a single case of covid resulted from it, all those people in close proximity at a pool party in the Ozarks that was plastered all over the U.S. press several weeks back? No spike in covid cases there either. It was/is a scam people, hyped by the press until it was made into the end of times and yet here we all are.

Edited June 5, 2020 by Aland

[5633572526]

16 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

The gym I go to in Udon Thani opened on June 1st, same as before it closed, temp check on entering.

They've got the bar code thing to scan but I just ignore it.

Signs all over saying social distancing, (oh how I hate that term) and they moved some machines a little further apart.

Employees wear a mask but all the people, including me working out do not.

I'm glad it's open, same old faces inside.

Similar to my gym in bkk except no temp scan or bar code even available.

employees wearing masks and machines spaced further apart but no requirements for masks for those of us working out.

[rwill]

Soapy massages to be replaced with Sanitizer foam massages.

[JIMHILL]

Whatever has been in place here in Thailand is a breeze compared with misdirected, futile restriction and orders imposed on the UK population.

Strangely it appears, a lot of UK-ers are wallowing in the bossiness !

[nickmondo]

17 hours ago, zeamonkey said:

Meanwhile Italy, the former epicenter is FULLY OPEN, borders and everything. And what micromanagement are we doing here in the clownregime? This is pathetic and incompetent.

i think we need to see the result of Italy before commenting too much on this.

maybe the infections will spike again

[dogfish180]

Will we need to wear masks in the Soapy? Asking for s friend

[AgMech Cowboy]

Open it up!!! Let's get sick, get over it and move on. If you die, the living will miss you and morn. (Some will miss you, some will not. ???? Some will miss only your 'contributions')

[steven100]

18 hours ago, smedly said:

the answer to this is obvious 

 

discos and nightclubs no way

 

small Bars no more risk than restaurants especially open air 

you should be the prime minister of thailand

[Jcord1]

How many total phases are there in this reopening plan.  I thought there were only 4, but the way they're describing what can possibly reopen in phase 4, it sounds like there are some things that will remain closed.

 

When will I be able to get my teeth cleaned at the dentist office?

[Bangkok Barry]

There is something that no-one seems to be addressing. When places are allowed to re-open there are no staff. They've mostly been laid off many weeks ago and a large number have returned home to Nakon Nowhere. Who knows how many will return, of if where they worked will even be able to re-open or if the business is permanently closed.

 

I've seen a recent video of someone checking the massage shops on Suk 19 in Bangkok (shophouse size, not the kind listed above), and only one of a dozen or so were open after the restriction was eased. A couple were for sale. The Khon Kaen-Mukdahan bus that passes my house every 30 or 60 minutes depending on time of day, still missing. A friend has also seen very few buses out of Korat.

 

It isn't nearly as simple as the government announcing relaxations and seeing all businesses re-open the next day, bus routes working again.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, Aland said:

and yet here we all are.

Well, 393,142 are not. But I take your point.

[brucec64]

1 hour ago, Aland said:

In the next several weeks, it'll be most interesting to see how they wont be able to stop everything from re-opening. Every day that goes by, more evidence comes out that this pandemic is no more dangerous then a bad case of the flu, dont take my word for it, look for yourselves https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/. All those people that crammed into the BTS on opening day? Not a single case of covid resulted from it, all those people in close proximity at a pool party in the Ozarks that was plastered all over the U.S. press several weeks back? No spike in covid cases there either. It was/is a scam people, hyped by the press until it was made into the end of times and yet here we all are.

I looked for myself, not the conspiracy website that you pointed us to:

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/swiss-policy-research/

Overall, we rate Swiss Policy Research (SPR) a Moderate Conspiracy website based on the promotion of unproven claims. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the use of poor sources and complete lack of transparency.

 

This article provides a good explanation of how a novel coronavirus is worse than the flu, with an estimated death rate that is 4-6 times higher than the flu, and a much higher infection rate.

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

[toofarnorth]

45 minutes ago, rwill said:

Soapy massages to be replaced with Sanitizer foam massages.

Funny thing is 5 weeks ago I went for an under the table massage. Let me clarify , she was supposed to be closed.

But I got my usual 90 min. oily . Now her phone number is on a board outside and as a massage has become legal she has  sanitizer which she keeps in a jar by the door  ( Beatles moment ).  She also wears a mask now which the law says she must. 'twas better 5 weeks ago.

 

[Mac98]

A stadium where one infected person could infect dozens is far more if a risk than a massage shop where a worker might have two or three customers a day.

   The better test would be to keep large gatherings banned, keep social distancing in place, but dump the masks and see if there is any adverse result. If not, then drop social distancing. No spike? Open everything.

[davemos]

According to Reuters  the Suicide hot line has 5 times as many calls. Most are about financial  woes. According to them the suicide rate will jump from 300 per month to much higher levels .