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Is Bangkok a good place for a new Buddhist?

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28 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

I'm open to something better: what of the 4 noble truths and the eight fold path are rubbish?

What statement about life and how to live it have you found to be better?

 

Thanks for the replies everyone.

I can't help you about finding places in BKK.  I just thought you might like some of the talks given by Ajahn Jayasaro.  He has a number of Youtube videos.  Such as: 

 

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Practice happens with every step, regardless of where you are.

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I went with one girl to visit a sort of monk come spiritualist in Bang Bon last December, took 2 hours to get there from Ratchada. It was above someones house, he gave her some readings, did some chanting and had 100s of buddhas and dolls around the room. All of this because she couldn't decide whether to work in Bangkok or Phuket, cost her 1000 baht and the taxi there from the MRT, I was generous and paid for the taxi back to the MRT station.

 

Another girl told me this was black magic buddhism and she would put on spell on me, well I'm still here and she is over there 555. If someone can tell me what that was all about I would like to know.

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2 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

I went with one girl to visit a sort of monk come spiritualist in Bang Bon last December

...and you didn't ask him for a winning lottery number? Oh well.

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11 hours ago, sidjameson said:

I am still very much a lay person attached to the bustle of life. I'd love to stay someplace and learn the language and also meet other Buddhists and talk over ideas and practice meditation.

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Early mornings, parks, language study, coffee shops, discussions on dharma and nature (lumpini and weekends away would be enough) is the type of life I'd love to experience.

I'm not sure where you'd find this experience, except by joining a Sangha in the west.

Most of what I've run into in Thailand is the 'retreat experience', or living in temples as a novice among the monks, doing daily meditation and listening to Dharma talks.

 

Most Thais get their 'Buddhist education' while in school. 

Foreigners learning Pali and Sanskrit aren't the normal fair here, except maybe learning the chanting by rote, unless you're a scholar (or long-term dedicated monk).

 

Any one else have a different experience?

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30 minutes ago, RichCor said:

...and you didn't ask him for a winning lottery number? Oh well.

I was sitting at the back and wondering what the <deleted> was going on. I do like weird trips like this and see something different.

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12 hours ago, sidjameson said:

I am still very much a lay person attached to the bustle of life.

It will be difficult to detach yourself in Bangkok. 

You might find more suitable temples in Kanchanaburi or Ayutthaya 

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11 hours ago, orchis said:

I would like to clarify a few things:

Both are in Bangkok.
Little Bang in ordinary times meets at Rojana Dhamma Centre; Pra Pandit has moved on, to Singapore.
BIA (Wat Suan Mokh Bangkok) is Budhadasa's archive and outpost in Bangkok, at Suan Rot Fai near Chatuchak. Normally also many activities.
Other centers are World Federation of Buddhism, Sukhumvit 24, and Baan Aree (BTS Ari), only scheduled activities.

The temple in the South is Wat Suan Mokh, but I heard the retreat content changed a lot there. (see trip advisor).
Good retreats I think are Goenka (https://www.dhamma.org/en/maps#TH), 8 centers, tend to fill up quickly.

Wow, I didn't know Phra Pandit moved to Singapore.  Visa problems would be my guess. 

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12 hours ago, RichCor said:

To the contrary. After practicing on and off for 20 years solely in the US I decided to visit the 'fountain' for myself and was instantly confronted by the absurdities that is Thailand and experience the stark contrast to my 'American' and 'being Buddhist' belief system.  I think it's been the best thing for my practice.

 

I no longer know what to believe. I can only watch.

It's perfect.

After practisicing for 20 years I would hope you got it right by now.    PML   LOL

 

And the OP is asking is it good for a NEW Buddhist, not one who has tried it on & off for 20 years.

What's a NEW one as opposed to and OLD one please?

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@sidjameson before you commit to anything in Thailand, I suggest you read this book,  'Zenwise' by Ajahn Sumano Bhikkhu, an American born Buddhist monk and Nash Siamwalla, a Thai mindfullness teacher and author. It's available from the Asia Book Store. https://www.asiabooks.com/zenwise-154832.html

 

Read it and draw your own conclusions about studying Buddhism in Thailand. It certainly opened my eyes!

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7 hours ago, Moonlover said:

@sidjameson before you commit to anything in Thailand, I suggest you read this book,  'Zenwise' by Ajahn Sumano Bhikkhu, an American born Buddhist monk and Nash Siamwalla, a Thai mindfullness teacher and author. It's available from the Asia Book Store. https://www.asiabooks.com/zenwise-154832.html

 

Read it and draw your own conclusions about studying Buddhism in Thailand. It certainly opened my eyes!

Is Ajahn Sumano still alive?  I used to visit with him at his small place up near Pak Chong.  Stayed with him a couple of times.  A really great human being.  I heard several years ago that he was very sick. 

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33 minutes ago, khaowong1 said:

Is Ajahn Sumano still alive?  I used to visit with him at his small place up near Pak Chong.  Stayed with him a couple of times.  A really great human being.  I heard several years ago that he was very sick. 

Well he's pushing 80 but now his death isn't recorded on his web site so I guess he's still around. I've never met him, but I do like his books despite my being none religious. He cuts through the dogma. Go visit http://next-life.com

 

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On 6/4/2020 at 6:09 PM, stouricks said:

I would have thought that Bangkok, or even Thailand in general are not places to get involved in TRUE Buddhism.

The only wat I have seen that is true to the spirit of Budhism is outside Ubon, famous for catering for foreign monks, forget the name founded by Pra Charn? No stray cats and dogs, no silly animal statues, no fortune telling or amulets, no vendors and spotlessly clean with no vanity building constanly in progress. That is the sort of place you want

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This is one of the most famous temples in Bangkok, but note, the abbot did a runner and no one knows where he is!

 

 

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