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3 hours ago, Leaver said:

You are only in Pattaya for 4 days a month.  In any case, did you actually go to The Sportsman this past high season, pre virus?  I frequent The Sportsman, and noticed a big drop in clientele, and this was in high season.  This was confirmed by staff and management.  I hope they remain in business, even when things get back to normal.

 

The Sportsman is a good example because of its consistency. It consistently has good food and beverage, and service and facilities.  The same management, and their high standards, have been in place for years.  It's not like The Sportsman "went down hill."  The problem for The Sportsman is, Pattaya / Thailand has changed around it. 

 

What has changed has been well debated on TV, such things like strong baht, higher cost of living, rising competition from neighboring countries, changing tourist demographic, aging expat population etc etc  All of these things, and more, are outside of The Sportsman's control.  They were along for the ride pre virus.      

 

Sports bars like Retox are big operations.  They are not a hobby for a retired expat.  They do not operate like a charity for expats.  If profits aren't coming in, they wind up.  Retox is currently for sale.  What does that tell you?

 

Elderly expat clientele is not enough for these sports bars to continue operating.  There is no money in putting a football match on, and having your bar full of spectators watching the match over a cup of tea, or a glass of coke, or one beer, and then leaving.  They need the tourists to come in, preferable with their two week Thai girlfriend, and for them to watch the match, get drunk, buy a meal, and hang around after the match, before heading out somewhere for the night.  This wasn't happening pre virus, and doesn't look to like happening for the foreseeable future.   

Your last paragraph confirms you have absolutely no idea.

 

The Sportsman is in a <deleted> location, not been for many many years ( used to do my visa run from there ).

 

You keep mention Retox - why? it was a flash in the pan.

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3 hours ago, luckyluke said:

According to a notice from the french speaking community in Pattaya ( Ensemble ) to their members, restaurants will only be able to sell alcohol from 11 am till 02 pm, and from 05 till 11 pm.

This to avoid they take over the role of a pub/bar.

Restaurants have been denied to sale alcool since weeks

and still without the tourism from abroad they have a tiny portion

of their usual clientele.

 

Most of them have been closed during the last 2 months or

have tried to survive with only the take out service

 

The authorities could at least let's them now try to make some decent money

in these hard times, and not come again with more silly restrictions.

 

The same thing is imo for the beach vendors, i don't get the logic to not

allow the beach chair renters to work everyday of the week.

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2 hours ago, treetops said:


Kilkenny on LK Metro seem to agree.

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I am in Bangkok, still can get beers now at The Ekkamai Beer House. 

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3 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Your last paragraph confirms you have absolutely no idea.

 

The Sportsman is in a <deleted> location, not been for many many years ( used to do my visa run from there ).

 

You keep mention Retox - why? it was a flash in the pan.

It's you who has no idea.  You are only here for 6 weeks of the year.

 

The Sportsman used to very busy, and regularly.  Yes, it's only a small bar, but even last high season, there were empty tables, regularly.  It's location is very central for expats, and tourists.  

 

I am talking about Retox on Soi Honey.  Have you ever been there.  It's probably Pattaya's busiest sports bar, and is for sale. 

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1 minute ago, Leaver said:

It's you who has no idea.  You are only here for 6 weeks of the year.

 

The Sportsman used to very busy, and regularly.  Yes, it's only a small bar, but even last high season, there were empty tables, regularly.  It's location is very central for expats, and tourists.  

 

I am talking about Retox on Soi Honey.  Have you ever been there.  It's probably Pattaya's busiest sports bar, and is for sale. 

I lived there for 8 years ( mentioned many times before that you seem to ignore ) until i got fed up with the place.

 

The Sportsman was never 'very busy'. Infact i beleive the owner got into trouble for trying to sell class A's from there?

 

I know where Retox is thank you, i have been there. How long has it been on the go, i don't think too long, right?

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10 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

I lived there for 8 years ( mentioned many times before that you seem to ignore ) until i got fed up with the place.

 

The Sportsman was never 'very busy'. Infact i beleive the owner got into trouble for trying to sell class A's from there?

 

I know where Retox is thank you, i have been there. How long has it been on the go, i don't think too long, right?

I seem to remember you saying you moved away from Pattaya, but come back to Pattaya for around 4 days every month, because you have a condo here.  Is this the case?

 

On years gone by, The Sportsman has been busy.  Yes, it's only a small bar, so when even full, we are not talking about the numbers the bigger places get, but then again, I am sure they pay less rent and have less over heads, so profit margins would have been ok back then. 

 

As for Retox, it been there a while.  I would hardly call it a flash in the pan.

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3 minutes ago, Leaver said:

I seem to remember you saying you moved away from Pattaya, but come back to Pattaya for around 4 days every month, because you have a condo here.  Is this the case?

 

On years gone by, The Sportsman has been busy.  Yes, it's only a small bar, so when even full, we are not talking about the numbers the bigger places get, but then again, I am sure they pay less rent and have less over heads, so profit margins would have been ok back then. 

 

As for Retox, it been there a while.  I would hardly call it a flash in the pan.

Sometimes longer, sometimes less.....up to me.

 

Don't agree, the busiest time was for the sunday carvery as i recall, never liked the place, too dark.

 

Define ' a while '

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11 hours ago, Leaver said:

You are only in Pattaya for 4 days a month.  In any case, did you actually go to The Sportsman this past high season, pre virus?  I frequent The Sportsman, and noticed a big drop in clientele, and this was in high season.  This was confirmed by staff and management.  I hope they remain in business, even when things get back to normal.

 

The Sportsman is a good example because of its consistency. It consistently has good food and beverage, and service and facilities.  The same management, and their high standards, have been in place for years.  It's not like The Sportsman "went down hill."  The problem for The Sportsman is, Pattaya / Thailand has changed around it. 

 

What has changed has been well debated on TV, such things like strong baht, higher cost of living, rising competition from neighboring countries, changing tourist demographic, aging expat population etc etc  All of these things, and more, are outside of The Sportsman's control.  They were along for the ride pre virus.      

 

Sports bars like Retox are big operations.  They are not a hobby for a retired expat.  They do not operate like a charity for expats.  If profits aren't coming in, they wind up.  Retox is currently for sale.  What does that tell you?

 

Elderly expat clientele is not enough for these sports bars to continue operating.  There is no money in putting a football match on, and having your bar full of spectators watching the match over a cup of tea, or a glass of coke, or one beer, and then leaving.  They need the tourists to come in, preferable with their two week Thai girlfriend, and for them to watch the match, get drunk, buy a meal, and hang around after the match, before heading out somewhere for the night.  This wasn't happening pre virus, and doesn't look to like happening for the foreseeable future.   

Well done Leaver, a detailed post talking about a place you actually go to.

I agree with your post in its entirety.

This forum is full of people who appauld the actions of the Thai government in keeping farang's out of Thailand but wouldn't spend a dime helping the businesses left.

Those that will not close permanently, will soon realise that penny pinching expats ain't going to keep the lights on.

 

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An on the ground inspection of the "restaurant" situation in my area this afternoon led me to believe that my watch was either 2 hours too fast, half an hour too slow or correct and some people have an Olympic ability to nurse a beer. 

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I went to a hotel bar on Buakhao yesterday and good to see it picked up where it left off, a steady stream of punters all day, so they'll be fine

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16 hours ago, luckyluke said:

I am in Bangkok, still can get beers now at The Ekkamai Beer House. 

This is about Pattaya.

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4 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

This is about Pattaya.

My first post was about Pattaya, mentionning there may be special drink hours in effect. 

Being in Bangkok actually, I mentioned that where I was, there were no special drink hours. 

So I believe there is a fair correlation. 

Of course you are entitled to believe there isn't. 

 

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tonguing for a beer and a bit of a fiddle down the 6, did it re-open yesterday ?

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Posted (edited)

I had a slap up meal all washed down with alcoholic beverages in Hemmingways.

Decent crowd & great service

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