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7 minutes ago, smedly said:

I must be watching the wrong channels then - until I asked the question on here I understood him to be a wonderful family man and pillar in society - evidently not 

It doesn't really matter what he was like, he didn't deserve to be murdered by the police.

 

@Orton Rd"Be polite and co operate when arrested and there is no need for restraint or risk to your health."

The first two or three times fer sure ........ but after they've arrested and held you, or taken you in for questioning, 10, 20, 30 times it starts to get a bit annoying, and the urge to 'fight back' becomes overwhelming.

 

PS. They restrain you, no matter how compliant you are.

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1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

what is it exactly the other 3 police officers did so wrong? 

hanging around and watching their colleague slowly killing a defenseless victim

without stopping him

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Actually I'm trying to be rational about the case. He wasn't the first black man to be killed by the cops and he won't be the last, also white guys are killed by the cops, apparently in greater numbers. The only reason that I can see to make this case "special" is to use it to attack Trump over.

So why don't all Americans demand serious, consistent and locked in change to police behaviors and demand clearly fair & balanced justice? After all the US is the land of freedom of speech with amendments to the constitution on this point etc.

 

Trump; i have no hesitation to share that I think he's a dangerous fool and IMHO he brings all the criticism on himself, through his attention getting grandstanding and obvious desire to be noticed, by his outrageous claims and behaviors. 

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3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You and many others here show there is still a long way to go, with many people being blind to or denying the issues.

Many others who see things and believe things that don't exist

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

"To charge them you’d have to show they knew or should have known he was acting with excessive force." {emphasis added by me for clarity}

Unless you've been living in a cave with a sack over your head, you can see in the video the other officers observing what was going on. And for over eight minutes? And these are trained professionals? They're going down.

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1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

Yeh he killed him, I'm not convinced it was anything to do with race and I don't think he purposely killed him

He had a camera on him for the whole time in broad daylight, hardly seems like a clever way to murder somebody

I don't think many people on this forum really think he did it on purpose. I certainly don't. But he did kill him and it was not needed. So its excessive force. Not murder, but he killed him by using to much force when it was not needed. I hope he gets punished for that. 

 

I dont know if he is racist or not. The guy had 18 complaints against him already. I honestly have no clue how many complaints the average cop has or what kind of complaints these are. 

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1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

He had the virus so could have spat at the officer in the car leading to him being taken out and restrained, sadly for too long. Be polite and co operate when arrested and there is no need for restraint or risk to your health.

",,,, he could have spat at the officer...." Any proof or specific details to back that up? Or your wild opportune assumption? 

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3 minutes ago, scorecard said:

",,,, he could have spat at the officer...." Any proof or specific details to back that up? Or your wild opportune assumption? 

The guy did say "Could have"....If you have anything info to the contrary then please post...

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1 hour ago, smedly said:

I understood him to be a wonderful family man and pillar in society

 

1 hour ago, smedly said:

what was the point of excluding the rest of my post - just so you could say pretty much the same thing 

 Because I wasn't saying the same as you. I am not mentioning the subject of the dead guys character like you which is irrelevant, rather the character of four killer cops.

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2 minutes ago, transam said:

The guy did say "Could have"....If you have anything info to the contrary then please post...

Could have has 3 arms, could have been a secret multi-billionaire, could have invented an invisible smartphone, could have is not relevant because puts ideas into peoples minds which can remain and actually build unfair process. Once it's said, even if the judge says 1,000 times 'the jury will disregard the comment, nothing can actually erase it and there is a chance that it will subconsciously sway some  jurors and the public.  

 

It someone deliberately set out to influence people to think I am a mass murderer etc., then I would be very angry, what about you?  

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5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's relevant if his character was known to the cops before they arrested him.

Not. Or shouldn't be.

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