Popular Post rupert the bear Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 its a strange phenomenon in UK.the police have been harassing people in parks sunbathing etc yet in the case of these demos when people have been attacked in the street .police took no action.a double standard and quite disturbing.the situation in the UK is very different to USA,i have spent time in the USA in IMO the US police are armed and aggressive,towards most groups,blacks hispanic and poor whites.this is indelibly branded in to the DNA of these forces and will be hard to stamp out the john wayne swagger,it does not apply in europe to police or society in general 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I hope the cops arrest them then, and they get a criminal record. you dont get a criminal record for such things. Crimnal records are only used if it states conviction recorded. If it doesnt say that then you dont need to mention it. Yeah be funny seeing police try to deal with arresting tens of thousands. Wont happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, Don Mega said: The 430 deaths in custody in Aus mentioned is just indigenous and Torres Strait Island people. Apparently white lives don't matter. #whitelivesmattertoo Who said they dont matter. If you are against deaths in custody feel free to attend. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phantomfiddler Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Don Mega said: Why are aussies protesting because of the death of a black man in the USA ? Because some realize that it can produce the perfect environment for looting ???? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phantomfiddler Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 Anyone would realize that there is no place in society for police brutality or abuse of power, but in America thousands of blacks are killed by blacks every year and no-one gives a toss. Also worth mentioning that this Floyd character was no saint, and if he had lived in China he would have got one behind the ear long ago ???? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, simple1 said: You likely well know deaths in custody demonstrations in Oz are not unusual. Just an increasing trend to protest against social injustice in response to increasing right of centre political indifference and efforts at social division by trump wannabees in Oz. I was wondering how long before Trump got blamed for an Australian march. Didn't take long. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Don Mega Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, Sujo said: Who said they dont matter. If you are against deaths in custody feel free to attend. They do matter but ive never seen a #WhiteLivesMatter protest, Have you ? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Don Mega said: They do matter but ive never seen a #WhiteLivesMatter protest, Have you ? Sounds racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Sounds racist And #BlackLivesMatter is not ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post teatime101 Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Don Mega said: Why are aussies protesting because of the death of a black man in the USA ? They're not, but I'm glad you asked. Australia has its own history of racism, massacres and a long list of Aboriginal deaths in custody or by police at the scene. Events like the George Floyd killing can act as flashpoint for global protests about racism and police brutality. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teatime101 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Don Mega said: ive never seen a #WhiteLivesMatter protest Because being white gives you privileges that black people are denied. Of course all lives matter, but racism has deadly consequences. And it's not just blacks, it applies to being non-white, non-male and non-straight as well. People with brown skin, women and homosexuals are all targets of violent white men. One woman per week is murdered by her partner in Australia. Bashing poofs is a sport in Oz, especially for blokes who spend a lot of time at the pub and regard 'f***in' as an essential part of their vocabulary. If you're a white, straight male, you're automatically placed at the front of the queue - every single day of your life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, teatime101 said: . People with brown skin, women and homosexuals are all targets of violent white men. Are they not also target of violent black men ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 The racial problems in Australia are long standing and complex. Essentially British colonists 230 plus years ago are regarded by current indigenous activists and their leftist sympathisers as invaders. In roughly the first 200 years there were a lot of injustices, sometimes as a result of actions with what was seen at the time as good intent, and sometimes outright massacres as retribution for petty crimes, stealing a sheep, whatever. Then they obtained some land rights and as social justice issues came to the fore, more and more Government resources have been poured into the sector. Success stories are ignored and failures highlighted. Huge problems still remain, there is much good will for more to be done. The Australian Prime Minster publically apologised in Parliament in 2007. From my perspective there is endless talk and little chance of getting indigenous leaders to agree to anything except more talk, and even more resources. (much of which are supposedly wasted) I have heard that they consider another apology is necessary. Many of the remote communities are still very disadvantaged. This protest is being organised by a group called WAR Warriors against r? So anyway I hope they dont riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, teatime101 said: Because being white gives you privileges that black people are denied. What privileges do I receive (that are denied to black people)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Are they not also target of violent black men ? There is only violent white men according to him, every other form of violence has come about because of the tyranny imposed on those perpetrators by violent white men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CorpusChristie Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, teatime101 said: If you're a white, straight male, you're automatically placed at the front of the queue - every single day of your life. No, white straight males are the only group of people in the world whom you can be sexist and racist against . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, teatime101 said: Bashing poofs is a sport in Oz White men generally accept "poofs" , most have no problem with it . Its often Blacks and Muslims who have issues with homosexuality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, phantomfiddler said: Anyone would realize that there is no place in society for police brutality or abuse of power, but in America thousands of blacks are killed by blacks every year and no-one gives a toss. Also worth mentioning that this Floyd character was no saint, and if he had lived in China he would have got one behind the ear long ago ???? How do you know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teatime101 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Are they not also target of violent black men ? Domestic violence, yes. I shouldn't have included that. Poverty is a factor in violent crimes, so PoC and indigenous people are over-represented in the stats. The salient point is that PoC are targeted specifically because of their skin colour, by non black males and police. That's the main issue in these protests. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Don Mega said: 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: So it took a man dying in a far away country for Australians to protest about Aborigine deaths? I think not. Have a march for Aborigines then, not some man with no connection to Oz. Exactly, the American death whilst sad should not be the trigger point in Aus. Sounds like my fellow Aussies are just using it as an excuse for the sake of protesting. Neither of you get it. I doubt you have experienced systemic and lifelong racial discrimination in your existence 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, teatime101 said: The salient point is that PoC are targeted specifically because of their skin colour, by non black males and police. That's the main issue in these protests. The main issue in these protests is Police brutality, nothing to do with non black males other than they are the excuse for the protests and rioting. Wonder what the stats are for White on black and Black on black violence is ? Edited June 6, 2020 by Don Mega 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: What privileges do I receive (that are denied to black people)? If you need to ask i suggest you educate yourself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Don Mega said: The main issue in these protests is Police brutality, nothing to do with non black males other than they are the excuse for the protests and rioting. Wonder what the stats are for White on black and Black on black violence is ? This is about the culture of systemic racism from law enforcement agencies towards POC,and in Australia towards Aboriginal men and women in custody. nice try at deflection, but not the issue here. The main issue is systemic endemic racism Edited June 6, 2020 by RJRS1301 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Don Mega Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: This is about the culture of systemic racism from law enforcement agencies towards POC,and in Australia towards Aboriginal men and women in custody. nice try at deflection, but not the issue here. The main issue is systemic endemic racism And yet more white men die in police custody or imprisonment in Australia than indigenous people. What is this endemic racism you speak of ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) Australia needs a designated protest city ! You must stage 100 or less empty police cars , multi brand fully stocked department stores and businesses ,all within a one k of each other then Invite protestors with a 8 hour time limit. Think of the advantages this experiment would have on lives,property while instilling social awareness Edited June 6, 2020 by riclag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Sujo said: If you need to ask i suggest you educate yourself. I have been trying to do that by asking people...…………………...but no one will tell me . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Don Mega said: And yet more white men die in police custody or imprisonment in Australia than indigenous people. What is this endemic racism you speak of ? Aboriginal people are 3% of the population but 34% of those incarcerated. The manner of the deaths in custody of the Aboriginal population is often preventable, and most often as a result of violence or neglect ( with holding medications etc, ) at the hands of either police or custodial officers. Rarely have people been prosecuted or convicted. I understand you cannot see past your own bias, and any objective view of situations for you currently is not possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I was wondering how long before Trump got blamed for an Australian march. Didn't take long. Except SA, demo's have been cancelled due to Covid concerns. trump wannabees in Oz and elsewhere is regrettably a fact of political life. On the other side of the coin trump admires Putin, Orban and others - excellent representative of the Office of the President of the USA - LOL Edited June 6, 2020 by simple1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonnieandClyde Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Don Mega said: Why are aussies protesting because of the death of a black man in the USA ? America's poodle is yapping Down Under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Don Mega Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said: Neither of you get it. I doubt you have experienced systemic and lifelong racial discrimination in your existence Am constantly called a Farang, Thai's are racists !! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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