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Now that the big countries have all taken up their cudgels against China, I doubt Chinese tourists will be as affluent as the pre-COVID era.  With a lot of factories struggling to regain production in China, will we see less Chinese tourists or even no Chinese tourists  when the Thailand reopens its border ?

 

A lot of businesses were created just to serve the Chinese tourists.  You could see loads of mini emporiums pretending to be pharmacies sprouting near all the major hotels in Pattaya, and these businesses are still waiting for the Chinese tourists to return.  They are still reluctant face the truth even though RMB has been going south.

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New car sales in China were up in April, yoy, but just about everyone is going to be tighter with their money for a while.  Large swathes of the tourist industry are made for Chinese tour groups.  The Chinese are aware of a deserved rise in anti-china sentiment, otoh that might be more of a reason for them to choose Thailand over the likes of NY and London.  The trade war will help SEA more than it will hurt China, but it is just another part of global belt tightening.  The operational abilities and finances of the airlines might be more of a factor determining how many million Chinese tourists come, but again, that affects most, and since it is so much closer than NA or Europe, that would support more of them coming, here.

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2 hours ago, Kerryd said:

China will laugh at anyone pretending to "take up cudgels" against them just like they laughed at, then imposed tariffs against, Australia for suggesting an investigation into the origin of the covid virus. (Notice how that story has apparently been shuffled to the back burner for the last couple of weeks now.)

Most of China wasn't overly affected by the virus and you don't hear stories about destitute Chinese lining up for handouts in the streets there. I think you'll find that most of their industry has been cooking along much as it did before, except the areas hardest hit by the virus but even then, places like Wuhan are apparently pretty much back to normal. Just no "wet markets" anymore.
(Makes me wonder what they'll try to blame next time as I doubt they'd be able to use the same story twice in a row.)

Just like most of Thailand, less the Tourism and Hospitality industries, has kept working throughout the crisis.

And considering how many Chinese there are, I don't think they'll have any problem filling plane loads of them to go to whichever countries open their skies to them. 
And I have no doubt believing that any country that says "no" to allowing Chinese tourists will face reprisals of some kind.

China only cares what other countries think if the Communist Party thinks the Chinese people might realize that the Party isn't the "all mighty, all knowing, benevolent protectors of the people" that they've been brainwashed to believe. 
Like with this crisis and how, very early one, when the first Chinese doctor went public about the virus, the Chinese arrested and detained him to shut him up (he later died from the virus).
Like how they used their state controlled media (print, radio and television) to spread the rumour that the virus was created by the American Army and smuggled into Wuhan. 
Like how they threatened Australia (amongst others) for suggestion there should be an investigation into the origins of the virus.

Anything to deflect attention, and blame, away from themselves.

The Communists know very well what will happen to them if the people stop believing them and decide they want a change. After all, it's the same thing they did when they first took power after WW II. 
Did you know that during the Tienanmen Square crisis, the Chinese didn't use troops from the local garrisons. They specifically brought in troops from other parts of the country so that when they ordered them to open fire on the demonstrators they wouldn't hesitate as there'd be little chance they'd have any family members in the crowd. 
(You can bet the tank driver that didn't run over that guy with the shopping bags probably didn't have a long career, or life, after that incident.)

The only thing that would cause a drastic drop in the number of Chinese tourists would be if there were suddenly more virus outbreaks in the places they travel to. That is about the only reason anyone would be able to use to restrict them.

China is realizing it has the clout to do pretty much anything it wants now and no one is going to stand up to them in any serious way. They've started "flexing" that clout in the South China Sea, along the border with India, against their Muslim populations in Western China as well as flexing their economic muscle in various regions of the world like Africa. 
Even Cambodia was recently forced to come out (again) and state that the navy base at Ream isn't"exclusively" for the Chinese Navy to use. (Last July reports came out that the Chinese had made a secret deal with Cambodia regarding leasing a large part of the Ream naval base on a 30 year deal.)
There are also reports that a "commericial" airfield the Chinese built at Koh Kong is actually meant to be an airbase. (Coincidentally, it seems a Chinese drone recently crashed near that very same airfield.) It seems the "deceptively" long runway has roused suspicions about the true intentions of the airfield.
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2188558/cambodias-koh-kong-project-chinese-tourists-or-chinas-military
https://asiatimes.com/2019/07/cambodia-china-ink-secret-naval-port-deal-report/
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50729306/cambodian-naval-bases-are-not-exclusive-to-china-says-premier-hun-sen/

(I won't bother getting into how the Chinese use "development" aid to build/buy and control infrastructure projects like dams, toll highways, high speed trains and other stuff in other countries.)

Suffice to say, I don't think there'll be any shortage in the number of Chinese tourists plugging up the airports  - once they start letting them in again.

Quite the Chinese expert........

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"Now that the big countries have all taken up their cudgels against China, I doubt Chinese tourists will be as affluent as the pre-COVID era."

 

As far as I'm aware the anti-Chinese sentiment has been fuelled only in the 5 eyes countries. Most of the countries don't try to lay blame on any country.

Whether the Chinese are going to get poorer, quite likely. If their customers don't buy what they produce, less money would be flowing in. In regards to Thailand however, I won't be surprised if wealthier Chinese are coming in. China is an authoritarian regime and looks like they'll shut the tourist traffic to Australia, US and UK for political reasons, and these countries were getting far wealthier Chinese tourists. They may decide to come to Thailand now - closer,cheaper, and safer in regards to covid19.

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Not if, but when...the writing is on the wall.  The Indian resurgence will be slower, but that has more to do with the timing of C19.  I think you will also see the transformation of KSR to majority Chinese tourists.  Land values are too high to cater to backpackers around there, they need the big foot traffic numbers.  

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3 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

I hope and pray they dont come back ,its great being able to drive down streets not clogged up by buses ,or walk down the street without being pushed out of the way by them.

or/and spitted on

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On 6/6/2020 at 11:57 AM, moontang said:

New car sales in China were up in April, yoy, but just about everyone is going to be tighter with their money for a while.  Large swathes of the tourist industry are made for Chinese tour groups.  The Chinese are aware of a deserved rise in anti-china sentiment, otoh that might be more of a reason for them to choose Thailand over the likes of NY and London.  The trade war will help SEA more than it will hurt China, but it is just another part of global belt tightening.  The operational abilities and finances of the airlines might be more of a factor determining how many million Chinese tourists come, but again, that affects most, and since it is so much closer than NA or Europe, that would support more of them coming, here.

Why didnt China just play nice and everyone would be happy, happy but noooo!

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